VIDEO: FH+ OHBH training against spin monster

Dragy

Legend
I like your FH swing basically, lots of good things happening. Your BH needs a total revamp, it's not utilizing key fundamental mechanics for OHBH, sorry.

What is that stick? Is it 2015 Blade 98, or some lighter frame?
 

1stVolley

Professional
On your BH you are not properly counterbalancing the force of your swing with your non-dominant arm causing some imbalance and, occasionally, opening the torso too soon. Also, your wrist is too firm so that near the end of the forward swing your racquet head is pointing at the fence across the net. Rather, the butt of the racquet should be pointing at the fence across the net (and the racquet head pointing backwards) because, on a correct shot, you want to rotate (supinate) the forearm so the racquet head makes a windshield wiper motion. It is harder to supinate correctly with a stiff wrist (it stiffens the forearm).

On the forehand you sometimes lose the low-to-high swing shape and hit into the net or just lose some control though the ball may still land in. Your use of the non-dominant arm in your FH is better than in your BH but it could still be held straighter and thus extended further across your torso. Try not to hit with a too-straight swing shape.
 

3virgul14

Rookie
coming from pingpong background I never had problems with my forehand, can hit anywhere from any position at the court aggressively.
Interestingly , having wristy backhand from pingpong, for the same reason my BH is vulnerable especially under pressure so recently i switched to OHBH in order to counter punch, i know it requires time but i already feel better compared to two hander, cant lock it yet, but yeah I will try to counter balance with my left hand more.
 

Dragy

Legend
For OHBH:
- Get rid of that grip! You need that thumb under the handle to execute good "flare" motion - rotate racquet head up higher than handle into and past contact.
- Give yourself more sideways space for the ball. Maybe it's of ping-pong legacy, but you really get yourself crowded with the ball on BH side.
- Watch the video, it's a bit lengthy, like many of TTT, but packed with proper advise. Focus on the first part - high prep, good space, low drop swing; and on the latest part - rotational "flare" move into and past contact.

 

Chas Tennis

G.O.A.T.
Compare strokes one above the other and frame-by-frame in this post. To single frame on Youtube use the period & comma keys. To select a Youtube always use the Alt + Left Mouse Click, otherwise the video starts playing. You can go full screen to examine one frame and when you come back down it stays on the same frame. Pick videos that are from the same camera angles for best comparisons. Go to two impacts and work back.


Whoops I see you have a straight arm forehand. Djokovic has a bent elbow forehand. Federer or Nadal would be better for your straight arm.

Make lists of everything that is different. Particularly, compare the turning of your uppermost body, hips and arm at the shoulder.

Notice how the players bring the racket down with the off hand. They rotate it so the head gets lower more than the hand. Probably this rotates the whole arm from the shoulder down (internal shoulder rotation, (IRS)). Then the arm can rotate in the opposite direction during impact for top spin, external shoulder rotation (ESR). The racket shaft tilts down from the hand, it's not horizontal. Of course, it also depends on the height of the incoming ball.

Forehand separation is turning back the line between the shoulders more than the line between the hips. Separation angle it the angle between those two lines that you would see if viewing from above. Separation angle relates to how much trunk twist is used in your forehand or other strokes. Watch Djokovic play as a model for separation. You can search forehand separation. There may be a risk to twisting the trunk for some people.

This thread discusses the similar backhand techniques used by Justine Henin, Wawrinka and Gasquet and some other top 1HBH players.
Read posts #1, #51 and others later that discuss observations of the top one hand backhands.

You can find other videos and post them for comparisons.
 
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BevelDevil

Hall of Fame
- Watch the video, it's a bit lengthy, like many of TTT, but packed with proper advise. Focus on the first part - high prep, good space, low drop swing; and on the latest part - rotational "flare" move into and past contact.

That first drill on racket separation really helped my kid's backhand, pretty much immediately.


To single frame on Youtube use the period & comma keys
Holy **** that's gold.
 

Curious

Legend
So the idea was to hit at a nice tempo and land the ball deep , cones were located about 1.5m from baseline.

Feel free to criticize..

PS: I am hitting with a Blade ProStock strung w TBH7T 1.25 @ 21/20kgs.. I like the feeling and sound.
I think these strokes are good. Now you can go and learn how to play tennis with them.
 

3virgul14

Rookie
I think these strokes are good. Now you can go and learn how to play tennis with them.
Yeah thats a bit tricky because I tend to hit 2hbh if i am under pressure or slice defensively. Still cant go OHBH eith authority

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Chas Tennis

G.O.A.T.
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Holy **** that's gold.
I did not know about the Youtube method of advancing single frame for the first 7 years after I joined the forum and started viewing stroke Youtubes! I saw it when someone wrote it in a post!

I mentioned it to a video analysis software developer and he had the same response as you! Ha, ha, ha.................
 

Dragy

Legend
I did not know about the Youtube method of advancing single frame for the first 7 years after I joined the forum and started viewing stroke Youtubes! I saw it when someone wrote it in a post!

I mentioned it to a video analysis software developer and he had the same response as you! Ha, ha, ha.................
Who could ever have an idea to search for Youtube manual? Not me...
 

blablavla

G.O.A.T.
So the idea was to hit at a nice tempo and land the ball deep , cones were located about 1.5m from baseline.

Feel free to criticize..

PS: I am hitting with a Blade ProStock strung w TBH7T 1.25 @ 21/20kgs.. I like the feeling and sound.
it might be the angle of the video, but it looks like you are hitting both FH and BH at quite low level to call this training against spin monster.
there is no meaning to put a lot of spin in your shot if the opponent will be hitting at this height.
spin monsters are the shots that often force you to hit at shoulder level or higher, cause then the ball is out of your comfort zone, and then it is easier to draw mistakes.
 
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