[video] i did what you guys wanted me to do!

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my takeback on my forehand is longer and i must say, my ball goes even deeper than before! it nearly paints the line on every stroke... thanks guys for the advice and if there's anymore tips, i'll gladly take it and try it out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ExhU2nuvfVs
i only uploaded this one video
i'll upload the full courters tomorrow
 
looks better....make the backswing a little bit bigger...right now it is like a lowercase 'c'. make it a capitalized 'C'. no problem with the backhand it looks great
 
no offense but it seems u keep twirling the racquet too much...that is just my opinion, i understand changing grips and such but the twirl to me seems just a bit too much...btw i think ur backswing is ok but a little more wouldnt hurt
 
Are you a girl? why your shots look so girly? and your arm does not straighten when you hit.

you only know whether your take back works or not when you play some fast shots. Everyone has the time to prepare fully during these slow rallies.
 
Are you a girl? why your shots look so girly? and your arm does not straighten when you hit.

you only know whether your take back works or not when you play some fast shots. Everyone has the time to prepare fully during these slow rallies.

Not so much girly as light. As long as they're getting good depth and he is developing consistancy, it's great. It'll eventually get even more power and he'll be an excellent player.
 
Hey, you've got a really great looking backhand with a nice fluid swing. How about doing the same with your forehand? You still aren't taking a big enough backswing. Check out where your wrist is relative to your right shoulder joint on your backhand...and then check it on your forehand. A little more upper body and shoulder turn will give you a bigger arc on your backswing without messing up your rhythm.

Your should be also be hitting the forehand farther away from your body. Rotate your upper body clockwise another 25-30 degrees and don't be afraid to take a big, "double bend" roundhouse backswing on your forehand side. Line up the forehand as if you are going to hit it with the tip of the racket. Reach and hit the ball with the sweet spot. Imagining as you set up for the shot that you are going to hit it with the tip will automatically move you 8" farther away from the ball (and increase the arc of your swing...right?) and in a better position to hit a nice fluid forehand that will match your backhand. It's a gimmick but it's a simple instruction that won't mess up your mechanics like a lot of suggestions do because you're thinking about four or five different things.

Hitting deep is OK but you've got to be able to hit a heavy ball deep if you want push the big dogs around. It should be easy for you because you've got great timing and great hands. A compact, secure feeling forehand is actually less accurate and consistent then a free swinging forehand and tends to fly all over the place under singles tournament match pressure. You get more feel for direction and power if your arm is extended a little more. Look...with your ability, you should have a BIG forehand. It's should be your BIG weapon...show off your talent and DON'T FEEB OUT! :cool:
 
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The strokes are looking good; question is: how is your placement? Are you aiming for spots on the court or are you hitting mindlessly? You need to develop a good sense of where you're hitting and aiming for specific spots on the court.

The only thing I'd work on really is just loosening up those strokes, and taking a bit bigger backswing or work on becoming explosive in the wrist/forearms by throwing the butt cap at the ball and at the last second letting your racquet come around. You're going to suck at first, but it will be beneficial. It will help you in being able to judge the ball. Just experiment with it for a bit.
 
Are you a girl? why your shots look so girly? and your arm does not straighten when you hit.

you only know whether your take back works or not when you play some fast shots. Everyone has the time to prepare fully during these slow rallies.

Now, judging by the posts I've seen so far, I'm not the only one thinking this: he's clearly better and more consistent than a majority of the players. This may or may not include you.

In any event, your backhand - as others stated - looks great. Your forehand though, you may want to focus on hitting out in front a bit more. But again, as others have stated, this is just a warm-up; and having seen your other video (though your forehand looks the same), it appeared as if you get along quite fine with it.
 
You definitely need to loosen up your forehand more. You're cutting the backswing short and trying to push the ball instead of swinging through it from low to high.

Oddly, your backhand is smoother than your forehand, even though your backhand stroke is still not quite as "full" as it could be, either.

Try to take a HUGE backswing, as if you're reaching for something wayyy behind you. See how it feels, then adjust your stroke from there. But you need to get a feel for what a FULL stroke feels like.

Anyways, that's just my opinion. There's definitely more potential in your strokes if you're willing to accept constructive feedback.
 
Are you a girl? why your shots look so girly? and your arm does not straighten when you hit.

you only know whether your take back works or not when you play some fast shots. Everyone has the time to prepare fully during these slow rallies.

uhh i dont understand how this is suppose to help me.. show me your strokes and i'll determine whether or not it is "girly"

as for everyone else, thanks for the tips, i'll definitely try out the advice you guys gave. funny thing is my forehand is my favorite shot.. i hardly miss with it! i still haven't uploaded the full court video though.. so please when i post it, give me some more good advice. thanks!
 
uhh i dont understand how this is suppose to help me.. show me your strokes and i'll determine whether or not it is "girly"

as for everyone else, thanks for the tips, i'll definitely try out the advice you guys gave. funny thing is my forehand is my favorite shot.. i hardly miss with it! i still haven't uploaded the full court video though.. so please when i post it, give me some more good advice. thanks!

You might hardly miss it, but it's not going anywhere quickly;) On your forehand you seem to be trying to guide the ball to where you want it to go. Your elbow is bent and its almost as if you just put your racquet behind the ball then push it towards its destination. You don't accelerate the racquet from your backswing to the followthrough. The mechanics look alright except for that. Straighten out your elbow and accelerate through the ball.

The backhand form also looks pretty good, but it looks like you are trying to pose:-o It shouldn't matter what it looks like to you, just get it to work: )

Hope that helped. Try these and see if it works.
 
Nice video. The title of this thread together with your username is very intriguing by the way. No wonder this thread is getting a lot of "views"...:)
 
That's ALOT better!

Honestly on the first clip you look like your tapping the ball becuase your afraid of touching it.

In the second clip you're hitting through the ball with better swing. You should get used to it, and eventually you'll get used the back swing.

I'm also wondering what racket you use because most 'players' rakcet require a full swing. Is it a LM radical??
 
I know you had a consistent forehand before we started making suggestions but untuck that elbow on the backswing. It's still too close to your body as you are drawing the racquet back.

It's not a criticism or slight of your game as you've got a lot of potential but...you could really have a BIG forehand if you can get used to pointing your elbow back and away from your rib cage as you are drawing the racquet back.
 
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Dude... you crack me up. Strokin' the racquet after you win the point? Wth? lol.

You have potential like everyone else said. Your forehand balls look like they're going a little high though. I don't want to comment on the technique since you have something unique. The short backswing can work if you hit cleanly. Maybe you could close the racquet face a little though?

It looks like you can hit either 1 or 2H backhands. You need to CHOOSE one or the other and stick with it if you're serious about improving. If you're consistent with the 1H, I would say go with that. For me I need all the consistency I can get.
 
thanks for the advice once again guys, i'll give it all a shot today and see how it goes

emo, i use a liquidmetal prestige
 
oh and can you guys try and tell me what ntrp i am?

i wont be angry if yall say 1.5 or anything low, just curious is all ;)

i go to zina garrison tennis academy in houston and play supers tournaments every month or two (i never get past the quarters though haha).. if that helps in your answer

thanks
 
Quarters is good. Your rating doesn't matter at this stage. It's not like they are going to ban you from playing tennis if you don't know your rating. Look at the big picture and continue developing your shotmaking ability at your own pace.

Any vids of your serve?
 
That is one of the most bizarre forehands I've ever seen from a "decent" player. Surprisingly your backhands - both the one hand and two hand - are very nice. Your forehand ... yikes. Follow the advice everyone else has given you, and also work on your wrist. Watch your videos and watch your wrist, then watch any pro and watch their wrist. Yours is not even remotely close to where it should be.
 
your backhand looks amazingly easy and smooth compared to your forehand, even that one two hander that you hit.

you need to get a racquet drop on your forehand to the point where the butt of the racquet is pointing up toward the ball at its peak

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obviously an extreme grip here but you get the picture
 
geez that position seems crazy to me

well i hit flat balls for every shot on my forehand, does that make a difference on how i postion my racquet? because for topspin, you go from low to high, and flat i'm just plowin straight through the ball. but for my forehand, even though i hit flat, should i start and go low to high too?

its crazy because even though flat shots are more likely to hit the net, i am more consistent with my forehand than with my topspin backhand! its crazy i tell ya, crazy

thanks for the advice guys, i'll be working on them some more tomorrow and the next day and the next day...
 
geez that position seems crazy to me
It is kinda crazy and it's not for everyone. It's deceptive because it's a split microsecond snapshot of an extreme topspin forehand as the racquet is coming forward. It is not a trophy position but a transition phase much like the infamous service backscratch or wrist snap...which btw is still being beaten to death on other threads. I see people using the "point butt cap at the ball" as the trophy position and they hold that pose too long. The results are not pretty in many cases.:)

A couple things to remember...your old compact forehand works (and works well) because you are hitting the ball on the rise where too big of an upper body turn and too big of a backswing make the shot nearly impossible. You are taking the basic guts of the "on the rise" forehand and pushing to the extreme. Kinda the "how compact can I make the stroke" and still hit it hard philosophy.

I gotta a couple of questions. Are there any forehand shots that you have trouble hitting and how is your running forehand? When it gets right down to it, you're still going to have to hit the forehand the way you are most comfortable with.:cool:

Hey, if you're at Zina's place...what do the coaches say about your forehand?:p By the way, my old forehand used to look exactly like yours except that my follow throw was much shorter. It was the same swing that I used when I was hitting a forehand smash in table tennis. :) I started opening up the swing because the rhythm and timing on my old forehand was different from the rest of my game. My old game used to be super smooth except for the forehand where I would crowd the ball and smack it while it was still on the rise. I would be upsetting my own rhythm on my other shots so I smoothed it out with a classic old school Australian forehand...which was almost always hit on the rise.
 
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How about this...take the same kind of preparation and backswing like you do on your feeder (rally starter) ball. Did ya know that you had a pretty good looking swing on that shot?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5XvY2abvxaw&mode=related&search=

The only tiny adjustment would be to hit the ball about half of the racquet head away from your body so that the ball feels good when it hits the sweet spot. Remember that weird line up the shot as if you are going to hit it with the tip of the racquet drill I mentioned earlier?? That will put you the perfect distance away from the ball.

Go nuts.:cool:
 
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It is kinda crazy and it's not for everyone. It's deceptive because it's a split microsecond snapshot of an extreme topspin forehand as the racquet is coming forward. It is not a trophy position but a transition phase much like the infamous service backscratch or wrist snap...which btw is still being beaten to death on other threads. I see people using the "point butt cap at the ball" as the trophy position and they hold that pose too long. The results are not pretty in many cases.:)

A couple things to remember...your old compact forehand works (and works well) because you are hitting the ball on the rise where too big of an upper body turn and too big of a backswing make the shot nearly impossible. You are taking the basic guts of the "on the rise" forehand and pushing to the extreme. Kinda the "how compact can I make the stroke" and still hit it hard philosophy.

I gotta a couple of questions. Are there any forehand shots that you have trouble hitting and how is your running forehand? When it gets right down to it, you're still going to have to hit the forehand the way you are most comfortable with.:cool:

Hey, if you're at Zina's place...what do the coaches say about your forehand?:p By the way, my old forehand used to look exactly like yours except that my follow throw was much shorter. It was the same swing that I used when I was hitting a forehand smash in table tennis. :) I started opening up the swing because the rhythm and timing on my old forehand was different from the rest of my game. My old game used to be super smooth except for the forehand where I would crowd the ball and smack it while it was still on the rise. I would be upsetting my own rhythm on my other shots so I smoothed it out with a classic old school Australian forehand...which was almost always hit on the rise.

haha the coaches at zina told me it was unique, but very effective, so i shouldn't change it

i'll post videos of my serve in a few days, after all the food from thanksgiving goes away =)
 
haha the coaches at zina told me it was unique, but very effective, so i shouldn't change it

i'll post videos of my serve in a few days, after all the food from thanksgiving goes away =)
The more I look at your old forehand...the more I like it. It is definitely unique and effective...don't change it!:cool:
 
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haha thanks trinity


but uh i'm still curious as to know my ntrp level.. can anyone give a rough estimate?

thanks guys
 
i cant give you a valid ntrp GUESS until a serve vid comes up. light forehands, fluid backhands... if your serve is half decent, maybe a 3.0-5?

P.S.: why are you standing in no-mans-land?
 
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i cant give you a valid ntrp GUESS until a serve vid comes up. light forehands, fluid backhands... if your serve is half decent, maybe a 3.0-5?

P.S.: why are you standing in no-mans-land?

i'm warming up mini-tennis


and thanks for the evaluation guys.. i think my serve and volley are the strongest part of my game so i'm hoping i'm at least a 3
 
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