Video of Murray at 14

NatF

Bionic Poster
Didn't realise Leon Smith coached Murray when he was a youngster. Nice that he's been with him through so much of Andy's journey.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
At age six Murray won his first match in the under 12s age group. By the age of nine, he was beating experienced men club players at Dunblane and beyond.
 
Do we really have to listen to all that Scottish hogwash?
Haha, well sorry....
Love the Scottish pride in that report. Map of Scotland...a reference to a burgeoning tennis culture "north of the border".
To us Americans, it's funneh to think of the division as an actual border. We really think of it as London, England as the capital of the UK. Naturally we know what Scotland is...like Wales, Northern Ireland, etc...but the idea of a border has our brains thinking of México or Canada. Neighbors rather than fellow parts of a sovereign nation. We would not think of NY, CA, FL or TEXAS as across a border. Well maybe New Orleans, Louisiana, haha.

Rich history you all have within the UK.
Incredible how many LTA amd European junior championships have been won by Scottish kids over the past decade. Judy and her staff have done something verry verry rright over therr.
 
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Mainad

Bionic Poster
Haha, well sorry....
Love the Scottish pride in that report. Map of Scotland...a reference to a burgeoning tennis culture "north of the border".
To us Americans, it's funneh to think of the division as an actual border. We really think of it as London, England as the capital of the UK. Naturally we know what Scotland is...like Wales, Northern Ireland, etc...but the idea of a border has our brains thinking of México or Canada. Neighbors rather than fellow parts of a sovereign nation. We would not think of NY, CA, FL or TEXAS as across a border. Well maybe New Orleans, Louisiana, haha.

Rich history you all have within the UK.
Incredible how many LTA amd European junior championships have been won by Scottish kids over the past decade. Judy and her staff have done something verry verry rright over therr.

Scotland was an independent kingdom for over 800 years and the Scots and the English fought each other many times during that period. So there is still a concept of a border between the 2 former nations albeit it is an internal one now. The UK, by contrast, is only just over 300 years old. ;)
 

*Sparkle*

Professional
Haha, well sorry....
Love the Scottish pride in that report. Map of Scotland...a reference to a burgeoning tennis culture "north of the border".
To us Americans, it's funneh to think of the division as an actual border. We really think of it as London, England as the capital of the UK. Naturally we know what Scotland is...like Wales, Northern Ireland, etc...but the idea of a border has our brains thinking of México or Canada. Neighbors rather than fellow parts of a sovereign nation. We would not think of NY, CA, FL or TEXAS as across a border. Well maybe New Orleans, Louisiana, haha.

I can only presume you never watched the Dukes of Hazard growing up. They were always having to escape over the "county line" to get away from the police.

Just as well you've not seen the bickering between the people or Yorkshire and Lancashire, with their different coloured roses and being on the right side of the Pennines! :eek:
 
Scotland was an independent kingdom for over 800 years and the Scots and the English fought each other many times during that period. So there is still a concept of a border between the 2 former nations albeit it is an internal one now. The UK, by contrast, is only just over 300 years old. ;)
Thank you, yes, remarkably rich history there.
We Americans only know what we read, see in mmovies, and when we travel over there as satellite players on a budget.
 
I can only presume you never watched the Dukes of Hazard growing up. They were always having to escape over the "county line" to get away from the police.

Just as well you've not seen the bickering between the people or Yorkshire and Lancashire, with their different coloured roses and being on the right side of the Pennines! :eek:
Hahha, i did see that sho. Lol...the county line concept...was that something to do with moonshine, excessive speed, corrupt law enforcement or just good storytellin'?

Pennines, roses, puddings and pubs. You Brits must tell us more.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
Scotland was an independent kingdom for over 800 years and the Scots and the English fought each other many times during that period. So there is still a concept of a border between the 2 former nations albeit it is an internal one now. The UK, by contrast, is only just over 300 years old. ;)

Great Britain is just over 300 years old - UK was formed in 1801. Complicated eh ;) :)
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
Hahha, i did see that sho. Lol...the county line concept...was that something to do with moonshine, excessive speed, corrupt law enforcement or just good storytellin'?

Pennines, roses, puddings and pubs. You Brits must tell us more.

Pennines - a series of small hills separating Lancashire and Yorkshire (I'm from Scotland - we have mountains :) )

Roses - see War of The - nasty business. The original Game of Thrones

Puddings - made from animal fat and oatmeal - can be black, white, fruit or haggis :)

Pubs - like bars, only the beer doesn't taste like p1ss ;) Concatenation of Public House.
 

every7

Hall of Fame
The interesting thing about Murray is he has had to shoulder the pressure from the English wanting him to do do well and Scottish people wanting him to do well while he himself has really broadened his wings and embraced the U.S. as well (where he gets big support as well - albeit not like his home fans).

When I think of Andy now I think of a guy who calls America home just as much as Scotland or England. He is a big embracer of a lot of Americana like NBA basketball, gridiron and college athletics and U.S. food culture, video gaming etc. etc. and I have read many interviews where he talks about loving the climate and facilities in Florida.

Bloody great video, thanks for posting. What rack was Murray using in the video?
 
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Mainad

Bionic Poster
Great Britain is just over 300 years old - UK was formed in 1801. Complicated eh ;) :)

Sometimes I really hate being British. Why is it so simple for everybody else: French are French, Germans are Germans, Americans are Americans etc. but we have to define ourselves as English or Scottish or Welsh or Northern Irish and then try to explain to everybody else that we are also British too. France has always been just France (at least for the last 1,000 years) but we've been England or Scotland and then Great Britain, then United Kingdom of Great Britain & Ireland and then United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It does my head in trying to explain to foreigners why, in contrast to them, we have such a complicated litany of different names to describe the country/countries we are from! :mad:

Come on batz....why can't we just all agree that Scotland is just another name for Northern England? Everybody else just thinks we're all English from England anyway! ;):p
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
The interesting thing about Murray is he has had to shoulder the pressure from the English wanting him to do do well and Scottish people wanting him to do well while he himself has really broadened his wings and embraced the U.S. as well (where he gets big support as well - albeit not like his home fans).

When I think of Andy now I think of a guy who calls America home just as much as Scotland or England. He is a big embracer of a lot of Americana like NBA basketball, gridiron and college athletics and U.S. food culture, video gaming etc. etc. and I have read many interviews where he talks about loving the climate and facilities in Florida.

Does he get much support from Americans? I wasn't aware that he did.
 

batz

G.O.A.T.
Sometimes I really hate being British. Why is it so simple for everybody else: French are French, Germans are Germans, Americans are Americans etc. but we have to define ourselves as English or Scottish or Welsh or Northern Irish and then try to explain to everybody else that we are also British too. France has always been just France (at least for the last 1,000 years) but we've been England or Scotland and then Great Britain, then United Kingdom of Great Britain & Ireland and then United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It does my head in trying to explain to foreigners why, in contrast to them, we have such a complicated litany of different names to describe the country/countries we are from! :mad:

Come on batz....why can't we just all agree that Scotland is just another name for Northern England? Everybody else just thinks we're all English from England anyway! ;):p


:) Aye, that'll be right mate!

Of course the Union of the Crowns was over 400 years ago - just to make things that bit simpler. :) It's all part of the rich tapestry that is the history of the nations of our sceptred isle.
 
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batz

G.O.A.T.
The interesting thing about Murray is he has had to shoulder the pressure from the English wanting him to do do well and Scottish people wanting him to do well while he himself has really broadened his wings and embraced the U.S. as well (where he gets big support as well - albeit not like his home fans).

When I think of Andy now I think of a guy who calls America home just as much as Scotland or England. He is a big embracer of a lot of Americana like NBA basketball, gridiron and college athletics and U.S. food culture, video gaming etc. etc. and I have read many interviews where he talks about loving the climate and facilities in Florida.

Bloody great video, thanks for posting. What rack was Murray using in the video?

Yeah - he loves his time in Florida and he's always spoken fondly of the states. What's not to like about American sports - my youngest kid has even managed to make we watch a whole baseball match recently (although it did look a lot like rounders :) ). I love NFL.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Yeah - he loves his time in Florida and he's always spoken fondly of the states. What's not to like about American sports - my youngest kid has even managed to make we watch a whole baseball match recently (although it did look a lot like rounders :) ). I love NFL.

I think baseball derived from rounders didn't it (I used to play rounders in the school playground when I was a kid)? I recall Jane Austen makes a reference to baseball in one of her books.
 

every7

Hall of Fame
Does he get much support from Americans? I wasn't aware that he did.

I shouldn't have spoken for Americans but it seems like he gets a lot of crowd support at places like Miami, USO and the USO series hardcourt tournaments.
 

Dope Reign

Banned
I'll never understand why Murray didn't go on to dominate the way Novak did. His early career showed so much promise. (not taking anything away from him, he's still had a massively successful career that so many players would kill to have had..)
 

Fedex

Legend
I'll never understand why Murray didn't go on to dominate the way Novak did. His early career showed so much promise. (not taking anything away from him, he's still had a massively successful career that so many players would kill to have had..)

He should have achieved more:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/13243702

Quotes:

"I was the national coach of Spain for 16 years, and Andy Murray is the best player I ever worked with," Alvarez told me.

That's quite an introduction from one of the best-known names in the game. But it got even better.

"You can't go wrong with Murray. He's the best there is. He's a better player than Nadal and the other top guys."

Sanchez Vicario recalls Murray's arrival very clearly.

He said: "He was very quiet and shy when he first arrived.

"I remember trying to push him around the court the first time I hit with him, to see how he would respond. No matter what kind of shot I gave him, he always found a solution.

That was when I realised how talented he was"
 
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