Video Of Some Points

indianballer

Semi-Pro
I suppose it could be funny if I didn't wear socks. But seeing as I always wear socks... it's just odd. But, hey, that's just me. If others find it funny, then fantastic.
Come on... your wearing ankle no show girl socks. That is funny. Really. I guess your older. So you don't get it. I have seen Agassi wear the girl socks. But players now don't wear the no show socks. That's why it's funny.

Still hire me right for the pro job at your club?
 

racket king

Banned
Come on... your wearing ankle no show girl socks. That is funny. Really. I guess your older. So you don't get it. I have seen Agassi wear the girl socks. But players now don't wear the no show socks. That's why it's funny.
I think Nav's a bit slow on the uptake....it is funny though!

I suppose it could be funny if I didn't wear socks. But seeing as I always wear socks... it's just odd. But, hey, that's just me. If others find it funny, then fantastic.
For someone who keeps on claiming how intelligent and successful they are, you do seem to have some trouble joining the dots. Let me put you out of your misery. That sockless thing you've got going on is for girls/women and players on the WTA tour. Do I care if you copy them? No. But Cobb's posts are pretty funny in that respect and it's even funnier that you don't seem to have picked up on it. 'Bra and pantie set'? Brokeback Mountain? Sheeesh, give me a blackboard and chalk.....:D
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I haven't seen him make those statements. Any link to posts? He seems to handle things in stride and has no problem posting video of his game and meeting up with other TT members. That's more than a lot of you guys can claim.
 

mightyrick

Legend
Chicago...señoritas... hmmm... not much of a choice, frankly. Seriously, though, might be a possibility this summer. Another possibility, of course, is that you could take a break from work and come mingle with some señoritas. My new neighbors appear to have a steady stream of female friends, cousins, etc. that are seeking. I'm not going to play in that market as I don't want to burn any bridges, but you...
Hey, that just might happen. :)
 

LakeSnake

Professional
Come on... your wearing ankle no show girl socks. That is funny. Really. I guess your older. So you don't get it. I have seen Agassi wear the girl socks. But players now don't wear the no show socks. That's why it's funny.

Still hire me right for the pro job at your club?
Ah, so he is wearing socks, just those short ones like that sometimes have little pom-poms attached. Except this time without the pom-poms.
 

navigator

Hall of Fame
Come on... your wearing ankle no show girl socks. That is funny. Really. I guess your older. So you don't get it. I have seen Agassi wear the girl socks. But players now don't wear the no show socks. That's why it's funny.
Yeah, might be an age thing. Also, I don't really pay much attention to what others think on critical issues such as tennis sock choices. I'll keep wearing - and cherishing! - them. If Agassi wears them, super.

Still hire me right for the pro job at your club?
You're still hired. It's 100% commission-based. So, go get 'em!
 

navigator

Hall of Fame
except for that time he mercilessly mocked LeeD's economic stature and boasted about his great wealth.
A summary: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/what-ntrp-is-this-guy.548433/page-5#post-9817822

LeeD's thoughts ("Dave's right"): http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/what-ntrp-is-this-guy.548433/page-5#post-9817871

In no instance was any "great wealth" mentioned... that's pure fiction.

Clearly, certain folks here care considerably more about that past discussion than does LeeD himself... as he clearly doesn't give a rat's ass.
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
Truth is no one here takes things in stride. I do think it is lame to dump on someone because they are poor BUT
it is interesting because you had a serious issue with someone who criticized and looked down on your profession.
Nothing personal or offense but very hypocritical of you.

I just read the exchange and LeeD didn't take offense, so why should you?
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Truth is no one here takes things in stride. I do think it is lame to dump on someone because they are poor BUT
it is interesting because you had a serious issue with someone who criticized and looked down on your profession.
Nothing personal or offense but very hypocritical of you.
Nothing you just said is correct though. I had no issue with that at all, especially since it was not the right profession. It was more about potentially doxxing or posting PI. I talk to Matt still so that has been done for quite some time and there is no problem there. But it was never about what you just posted.

No hypocrisy at all. You are incorrect.

Anyway, the question was aimed at you. Why would you take offense if LeeD did not? He can fight his own battles I would think.

I just don't see why people attack Navigator. He has met with players here. Filmed himself. Has not been that combative at all considering the environment. Have you done any of those things?

I could very well be missing something which is why I asked for a link. It seems like you have twisted the truth on his posts and also mine as well.
 
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heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
The whole thing erupted over...well I can't go into it, we both know how that escalated. Anyways...

Everything I said is true. No Socks doesn't take everything in stride, no one does here. Ash/bella got trolled last night. Was just correcting your post statement.

I do think it crappy to mock a person's lack of funds, tennis fair game, IMO but you know it didn't ruin my day.

Nothing you just said is correct though. I had no issue with that at all, especially since it was not the right profession. It was more about potentially doxxing or posting PI. I talk to Matt still so that has been done for quite some time and there is no problem there. But it was never about what you just posted.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
The whole erupted over...well I can't go into it, we both know how that escalated anyways...

Everything I said is true. No Socks doesn't take everything in stride, no one does here. Ash/bella got trolled last night. Was just corrected your post.

I do think it crappy to mock a person's lack of funds, tennis fair game, IMO but you know it didn't ruin my day.
Yeah I hear you.

You said this "he mercilessly mocked LeeD's economic stature and boasted about his great wealth"

I don't see that happening in any posts. It appear you twisted or exaggerated that.

It just seems like the people who attack the most share nothing. They don't post video or play/interact with anybody from here. Yet they are relentless in going at guys like Nav for no real reason I am aware of.
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
^^i'm too lazy to dig it up. It would be funny to read now in the fullness of time.
It was harsh.

IDK, they had a laugh at socks, right? I mean agassi wears those socks.
 

racket king

Banned
A summary: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/what-ntrp-is-this-guy.548433/page-5#post-9817822

LeeD's thoughts ("Dave's right"): http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/what-ntrp-is-this-guy.548433/page-5#post-9817871

In no instance was any "great wealth" mentioned... that's pure fiction.

Clearly, certain folks here care considerably more about that past discussion than does LeeD himself... as he clearly doesn't give a rat's ass.
TW deleted the thread in question so, why you're linking to some other random random post is anyone's guess. And as for 'pure fiction' that's hardly the case, when you were the one crowing like an idiot about owning 96.7% of merchant bank. Pretty sad that you're still making excuses about your own douchey behaviour.
 
TW deleted the thread in question so, why you're linking to some other random random post is anyone's guess. And as for 'pure fiction' that's hardly the case, when you were the one crowing like an idiot about owning 96.7% of merchant bank. Pretty sad that you're still making excuses about your own douchey behaviour.
Hey, No Socks has a huge ego to protect. What were you expecting?
 
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Deleted member 120290

Guest
Looks like we have another TT doubles matchup brewing, PowerPlayer + Nav VS Corn + Henin.

With all these blockbuster matches going on, we must change the venue to Ashe Stadium or Indian Wells center court to accommodate all the fans.
 

sundaypunch

Hall of Fame
Red Sox

Two Socks

No Sox
I think Nav's a bit slow on the uptake....it is funny though!

For someone who keeps on claiming how intelligent and successful they are, you do seem to have some trouble joining the dots. Let me put you out of your misery. That sockless thing you've got going on is for girls/women and players on the WTA tour. Do I care if you copy them? No. But Cobb's posts are pretty funny in that respect and it's even funnier that you don't seem to have picked up on it.
There is a lot of baggage on tw. I just thought the no socks name was funny. Lol.

What is actually funny is the three of you sitting around liking each others posts that take less intellect than 8-th grade fart jokes.
 

Spin Doctor

Professional
I see that your homoerotic fixation with me progresses unabated... just don't go all Jame Gumb on me.
I'm thinking he's more like the character of Alex (Glenn Close) from Fatal Attraction. Corny/Racket King's obsession with you is pretty wierd. The fact that he even notices the clothes you wear is just...ummmm....messed up. This guy is seconds away from boiling your bunny in your new Tijuana pad: "I WON'T BE IGNORED, NAVIGATOR.." FFS, don't give out your address on this site.

(Insert Glenn Close gif here)
 

Spin Doctor

Professional
except for that time he mercilessly mocked LeeD's economic stature and boasted about his great wealth. You may have missed that group of poasts.
In that particular exchange, LeeD deserved it since he turned a tennis issue into a personal attack. If you're gonna open that door, you can't get mad when someone walks in. Besides, I doubt LeeD gives a crap. It's the same 2/3 posters (or is it 1?) who keep dredging this topic up, and strangely enough it's not LeeD.
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
exactly...did not take in stride
In that particular exchange, LeeD deserved it since he turned a tennis issue into a personal attack. If you're gonna open that door, you can't get mad when someone walks in. Besides, I doubt LeeD gives a crap. It's the same 2/3 posters (or is it 1?) who keep dredging this topic up, and strangely enough it's not LeeD.
 
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Attila_the_gorilla

Guest
Does Navi's bank get bailed out if it gets in trouble?
 

indianballer

Semi-Pro
What is actually funny is the three of you sitting around liking each others posts that take less intellect than 8-th grade fart jokes.
So what your actually saying is you also wear the no show socks?

Have a sense of humor. I wasn't talking about any of the stuff that went on in the past. The socks name is just very funny.

Sometimes fart jokes are very funny.
 
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indianballer

Semi-Pro
Nothing you just said is correct though. I had no issue with that at all, especially since it was not the right profession. It was more about potentially doxxing or posting PI. I talk to Matt still so that has been done for quite some time and there is no problem there. But it was never about what you just posted.

No hypocrisy at all. You are incorrect.

Anyway, the question was aimed at you. Why would you take offense if LeeD did not? He can fight his own battles I would think.

I just don't see why people attack Navigator. He has met with players here. Filmed himself. Has not been that combative at all considering the environment. Have you done any of those things?

I could very well be missing something which is why I asked for a link. It seems like you have twisted the truth on his posts and also mine as well.
Ok yeah I agree but don't you think "no socks" is funny?
 

indianballer

Semi-Pro
I think we need to see Nav personal and corporate tax returns. To see if he is a 3.0 IT dweeb pretending to be a 7.0 baller. Before I quit my lame job and become his head pro in Mexico Navi compound.
 

onehandbh

Legend
I think we need to see Nav personal and corporate tax returns. To see if he is a 3.0 IT dweeb pretending to be a 7.0 baller. Before I quit my lame job and become his head pro in Mexico Navi compound.
On the other hand, we have seen any proof of you being an actual tennis instructor yet. You could be a chef who makes fried vegetable balls in an Indian restaurant. Or a craigslist self-taught, self-rated 5.0 for all we know.

We've actually seen vidoes of Nav so we know he at least plays tennis.
 

mightyrick

Legend
If it were up to me, I'd probably ban like 4 or 5 posters outright. I'm not big on things like censorship, but when some posters behave like they clearly just only want to antagonize and they don't really add any value... it's best to just take out the trash. It's just common sense. The second we get down to things like insulting people personally, partial-doxxing, etc... it just needs to go. Either that, or just require every member to not be anonymous. That tends to get rid of the trolls real fast.
 

indianballer

Semi-Pro
On the other hand, we have seen any proof of you being an actual tennis instructor yet. You could be a chef who makes fried vegetable balls in an Indian restaurant. Or a craigslist self-taught, self-rated 5.0 for all we know.

We've actually seen vidoes of Nav so we know he at least plays tennis.
True. Ok. I'm not one. But then again I don't even give out tips here anyways after bad experiences doing so.

I have no reason to not believe Nav. I was making a joke.

I don't own anything. And I don't have any more insight on tennis than anyone else. Ok? Satisfied?
 

sundaypunch

Hall of Fame
If it were up to me, I'd probably ban like 4 or 5 posters outright. I'm not big on things like censorship, but when some posters behave like they clearly just only want to antagonize and they don't really add any value... it's best to just take out the trash. It's just common sense. The second we get down to things like insulting people personally, partial-doxxing, etc... it just needs to go. Either that, or just require every member to not be anonymous. That tends to get rid of the trolls real fast.
Well, they have all been members less than a year and have probably already been banned a time or two. Navigator appears to be an adult who is a good tennis player and has a good career. He ends up engaging a bunch of immature teenagers trying to get a rise out of him. That would never happen in the real world but it's easy to lose perspective of who you are dealing with on the internet.

I put them on "ignore" after commenting and it was amazing how much more pleasant it made the thread.
 

indianballer

Semi-Pro
If it were up to me, I'd probably ban like 4 or 5 posters outright. I'm not big on things like censorship, but when some posters behave like they clearly just only want to antagonize and they don't really add any value... it's best to just take out the trash. It's just common sense. The second we get down to things like insulting people personally, partial-doxxing, etc... it just needs to go. Either that, or just require every member to not be anonymous. That tends to get rid of the trolls real fast.
What is doxxing?
 

navigator

Hall of Fame
No Socks doesn't take everything in stride, no one does here.
I agree. No one here, including me, takes every single thing in stride. We all fall along a spectrum. I kicked LeeD in the balls in the discussion referenced and, to his credit, he didn’t give a sh1t (more on that below). But along this spectrum, a few anecdotes notwithstanding, I suspect the vast majority of folks here put me *way* over on the side of civil and reasonable even when I’m dealing with the racketking/cobb trolling which is initiated by them 100% of the time.

Corny/Racket King's obsession with you is pretty wierd. The fact that he even notices the clothes you wear is just...ummmm....messed up.
Agreed. I’m not sure whether it’s funny, pitiful, or both.

Either way… It. Is. Completely. Bizarre.

In that particular exchange, LeeD deserved it since he turned a tennis issue into a personal attack. If you're gonna open that door, you can't get mad when someone walks in. Besides, I doubt LeeD gives a crap. It's the same 2/3 posters (or is it 1?) who keep dredging this topic up, and strangely enough it's not LeeD.
Well, you, many other posters, and this guy specifically (http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/what-ntrp-is-this-guy.548433/page-6#post-9827789) all managed to interpret that exchange in the context it was intended. It was never about wealth, money, etc. at ALL. It was about risk-taking, plain and simple. But a few folks were unable to grasp this fact and took umbrage. Hey, what can you do… it won't be the last time that a few folks completely misinterpret an internet post. A certain number of folks will never get it even if you spoon feed it to them, and a certain number of folks will dislike you no matter what you do. That’s life in the big city – perfectly ok and to be expected.

Anyhow, I suspect that this exchange (which you followed) is what really drove the racketking/cobb axis over the trolling edge in their discussions with me:

Post #79: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/4-5-player-looking-to-get-to-the-next-level.544453/page-2#post-9676509
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Post #106: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/4-5-player-looking-to-get-to-the-next-level.544453/page-3#post-9679345

These guys doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down – in a mocking tone throughout - on a demonstrably incorrect assertion (about a grammatical issue of all things… jeesh) until Cowboyardee came along and had to practically diagram the sentence for them to show them the err of their ways. This really got under their skin and they’ve been upset with me ever since. They’re bitter and unhappy - it’s really not too complicated.
 

mightyrick

Legend
Well, they have all been members less than a year and have probably already been banned a time or two. Navigator appears to be an adult who is a good tennis player and has a good career. He ends up engaging a bunch of immature teenagers trying to get a rise out of him. That would never happen in the real world but it's easy to lose perspective of who you are dealing with on the internet.

I put them on "ignore" after commenting and it was amazing how much more pleasant it made the thread.
I put them on ignore also and it helps a lot. But it still does make threads strange and disjointed. I'm all for whatever it takes to make internet forums much more like real life. Basically, where people publicly identify themselves, walk into the town meeting, and speak up. And if someone doesn't have the courage of their convictions to do that, then they are free to stand on the sidelines and watch.
 

comeback

Hall of Fame
I put them on ignore also and it helps a lot. But it still does make threads strange and disjointed. I'm all for whatever it takes to make internet forums much more like real life. Basically, where people publicly identify themselves, walk into the town meeting, and speak up. And if someone doesn't have the courage of their convictions to do that, then they are free to stand on the sidelines and watch.
Agree with this and One handed and Navigator, sooner or later peoples' true personalities will come out over time..I think we all know who and what everybody here (who posts alot) is about after we get a feeling of where they are coming from...There is value in everyone from the Pros to the bionics...It's the meanspirited WANNABEES who hide behind their computers that eventually will self destruct..Many valuable posters in some other forums don't come into Tips and Instruction anymore which is a shame
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
I haven't joined any axis. I just saw PP's post and remembered some of your harsh exchanges, didn't your your first post here say something like "I don't want any feedback"? just watch me hit with ball machine? Those kinds of posts are more for facebook, or odds & ends, I guess. self-celebratory vids. This is a tips section but as I mentioned earlier, one newbie posting and and you have 8 or 9 of us debating what they should do. This is why I now often post vids of some of the best tennis minds on youtube.

Somehow I missed this particular recent war but enjoyed some of indianballers posts.
But fair enough. I took you off ignore just yesterday. I didn't know you were friendly.

Anyhow, I suspect that this exchange (which you followed) is what really drove the racketking/cobb axis over the trolling edge in their discussions with me:
 

comeback

Hall of Fame
I haven't joined any axis. I just saw PP's post and remembered some of your harsh exchanges, didn't your your first post here say something like "I don't want any feedback"? just watch me hit with ball machine? Those kinds of posts are more for facebook, or odds & ends, I guess. self-celebratory vids. This is a tips section but as I mentioned earlier, one newbie posting and and you have 8 or 9 of us debating what they should do. This is why I now often post vids of some of the best tennis minds on youtube.

Somehow I missed this particular recent war but enjoyed some of indianballers posts.
But fair enough. I took you off ignore just yesterday. I didn't know you were friendly.
Glad to see...just a misunderstanding among two good posters:)
 
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Attila_the_gorilla

Guest
For what it's worth, I often wear short ankle socks on the Tennis court. The full length ones are often too tight and I hate that.

In fact the full length ones I have, I have cut their top elastic parts with scissors, just to make them looser and more comfortable. They now look horrible but feel much better.

 

indianballer

Semi-Pro
For what it's worth, I often wear short ankle socks on the Tennis court. The full length ones are often too tight and I hate that.

In fact the full length ones I have, I have cut their top elastic parts with scissors, just to make them looser and more comfortable. They now look horrible but feel much better.

I don't have a nickname for that. Lol.
 

Tennisanity

Legend
^^i'm too lazy to dig it up. It would be funny to read now in the fullness of time.
It was harsh.

IDK, they had a laugh at socks, right? I mean agassi wears those socks.
It's true, I remember that. Nav's ego was apparently bruised which immediately brought out his wealth, whilst trying to put LeeD in his place. It was quite pathetic and weak frankly.
 
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Attila_the_gorilla

Guest
LeeD was sort of right though. Owning a bank in America seems like a pretty low risk way of making money. A bit like insurance companies. You cannot really lose. If the going gets tough and some clients default, get government help.

Why don't more people do it? Because it's a lot of incredibly boring work. A bit like pushing the tennis ball back over the net.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
I think we can all agree tlm's threads are among the most entertaining on this forum.
I don't know if they are the most entertaining but some really last quite a while and go in many directions. Which is fine with me, it's funny how many different topics and posters that are covered. As long as nobody gets to mad or insulted some debating can be fun.
 
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Deleted member 120290

Guest
For what it's worth, I often wear short ankle socks on the Tennis court. The full length ones are often too tight and I hate that.

In fact the full length ones I have, I have cut their top elastic parts with scissors, just to make them looser and more comfortable. They now look horrible but feel much better.

When you wear these socks, do you find that people give you money for no reason esp. around the holidays? :eek:
 
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