Volkl cyclone tour hybrid advise

#1
Hi guys. I’ve been playing with a fb of CT 16g for a couple of weeks now and I’m enjoying the softer feel than the previous strings I’ve used. Tour bite 16g, barb wire 16g and RPM team 16g. I have to say in hindsight I’ve enjoyed each string for different reasons, but mostly Team for overall qualities, but I’ve gotten a few arm issues, nothing bad, but something that I must be careful of. So I tried CT to see how much softer it was compared to Team and for sure it’s softer. I’m addicted to spin atm, and I like the grip the shaped poly’s have but I feel my game, and arm prefer a softer setup. I have a few ideas for hybrids to try like CT mains with either Gosen OGSM 16g or velocity 16g or wilson revolve 17g. I guess I’m looking for any suggestions/ advise if I’m headed in the right direction with these string choices or is there other setups ( I’ve read a lot of threads on others btw) to achieve the same results?
 
#2
Hi guys. I’ve been playing with a fb of CT 16g for a couple of weeks now and I’m enjoying the softer feel than the previous strings I’ve used. Tour bite 16g, barb wire 16g and RPM team 16g. I have to say in hindsight I’ve enjoyed each string for different reasons, but mostly Team for overall qualities, but I’ve gotten a few arm issues, nothing bad, but something that I must be careful of. So I tried CT to see how much softer it was compared to Team and for sure it’s softer. I’m addicted to spin atm, and I like the grip the shaped poly’s have but I feel my game, and arm prefer a softer setup. I have a few ideas for hybrids to try like CT mains with either Gosen OGSM 16g or velocity 16g or wilson revolve 17g. I guess I’m looking for any suggestions/ advise if I’m headed in the right direction with these string choices or is there other setups ( I’ve read a lot of threads on others btw) to achieve the same results?
I too have had my share of arm issues over the many years of playing. I really like Volkl Cyclone Tour (VCT) and can care less that it has poor durability as I simply restring it when I can't keep the ball in the court which is at about the 10 hour mark (Some of my pals say that I can't keep the ball in the court at the 10 second mark but we'll stick to talking tennis strings!).

I have looked at a few of the posts out here about pairing a shaped poly in the mains with a round poly in the crosses and so last weekend I strung up a couple of racquets with VCT 17G in the mains and Polyfibre TCS 17G in the crosses. Note: Polyfibre TCS has even worse tension maintenance but I figure in the crosses perhaps it will be OK. So far it is playing great although I think if I did it again I would drop the tension a few pounds in the TCS as it is playing a bit stiffer than a full bed of VCT and also I want a bit higher launch angle.

Anyway perhaps that is something to try. As a bonus it looks pretty cool with the Black/Anthracite string in the mains and the neon yellow string in the crosses.
 
#5
I hope try wilson revolve in crosses with vct. Revolve to me feels really soft. Had a great match with full bed vc yesterday and also really like elite xt.
 

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Hi guys. I’ve been playing with a fb of CT 16g for a couple of weeks now and I’m enjoying the softer feel than the previous strings I’ve used. Tour bite 16g, barb wire 16g and RPM team 16g. I have to say in hindsight I’ve enjoyed each string for different reasons, but mostly Team for overall qualities, but I’ve gotten a few arm issues, nothing bad, but something that I must be careful of. So I tried CT to see how much softer it was compared to Team and for sure it’s softer. I’m addicted to spin atm, and I like the grip the shaped poly’s have but I feel my game, and arm prefer a softer setup. I have a few ideas for hybrids to try like CT mains with either Gosen OGSM 16g or velocity 16g or wilson revolve 17g. I guess I’m looking for any suggestions/ advise if I’m headed in the right direction with these string choices or is there other setups ( I’ve read a lot of threads on others btw) to achieve the same results?
Do NOT play CT/OGSM!! CT loses tension quickly. You will play fine for about 2hrs, then CT/OGSM will be a rocket launcher.

If you are 4.0 or higher, then please disregard the following segment of my post.
I used to be addicted to spin friendly setups. Oh how I loved Black Widow!! Just grips the **** out of the ball and puts mad spin on it. But I also think it contributed to some arm fatigue because I wasn't using good technique. Also, I would take healthy cuts at the ball with bad form and that really wasn't so good for my health.

I've since moved to a more control oriented racquet and control oriented strings. I no longer have 'free' extra spin. I have to earn it with good strokes. But that has transformed my game with much better technique.

But if you want to try Velocity in the cross, I could support that. Velocity is low powered, so with CT grabbing the ball and V keeping the power in check, you may find good success.
 
#7
Do NOT play CT/OGSM!! CT loses tension quickly. You will play fine for about 2hrs, then CT/OGSM will be a rocket launcher.

If you are 4.0 or higher, then please disregard the following segment of my post.
I used to be addicted to spin friendly setups. Oh how I loved Black Widow!! Just grips the **** out of the ball and puts mad spin on it. But I also think it contributed to some arm fatigue because I wasn't using good technique. Also, I would take healthy cuts at the ball with bad form and that really wasn't so good for my health.

I've since moved to a more control oriented racquet and control oriented strings. I no longer have 'free' extra spin. I have to earn it with good strokes. But that has transformed my game with much better technique.

But if you want to try Velocity in the cross, I could support that. Velocity is low powered, so with CT grabbing the ball and V keeping the power in check, you may find good success.
I agree. Yes my technique isn’t always on point and I’m definitely not a 4.0 player. In saying that I do understand when I get the short ball I want and I want to give it some, the strings I’ve used have yielded more or less spin and in turn different results. I’ve quickly realised that I can’t belt every ball, I used to do that when I was a kid, so I know what shots I want to play, which has forced me to play at a decent level for longer. Thanks for the advice on the OSGM, but my reasoning for that combo was because in my PS97, I’ve strung the CT at 56lbs, so I was thinking of stringing OGSM tighter day around the 59lbs and see. When the CT dropped initially after the first hour I liked it more and I’m finding I’m still liking it even though it’s still dropping, albeit not as much.


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FB CT may still have consistent power levels. However, the lower stringbed tension with OGSM launches the ball. The spin is still there and if you hit it perfectly, you get an amazing shot that has a ton of spin and pace. However, that window of striking it perfectly is pretty narrow.

I'm more in favor of a forgiving setup. So possibly CT with Velocity in the cross could provide that spin with forgiveness.
 
#9
FB CT may still have consistent power levels. However, the lower stringbed tension with OGSM launches the ball. The spin is still there and if you hit it perfectly, you get an amazing shot that has a ton of spin and pace. However, that window of striking it perfectly is pretty narrow.

I'm more in favor of a forgiving setup. So possibly CT with Velocity in the cross could provide that spin with forgiveness.
Ok. Makes sense, thanks. I’ll give velocity a try.


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#10
Neither of these types of strings is best for how you want to use them. A shaped poly (CT) needs a tough cross string (smooth poly). Also, CT is twisted and will create extra friction with the crosses. OGSM and V are too soft and V is too low power to pair with a CT poly main. OTOH with a powerful, smooth poly cross the velocity can be a very good main string if you tension it 3 lbs. lower than you would ordinarily string a muti main. The smooth poly cross makes it firm enough and spin friendly, and the V main makes it plush. OGSM mains would be strung 2 lbs. tighter and would be more crisp, less plush. Or string up a full bed of CT.
 
#11
Neither of these types of strings is best for how you want to use them. A shaped poly (CT) needs a tough cross string (smooth poly). Also, CT is twisted and will create extra friction with the crosses. OGSM and V are too soft and V is too low power to pair with a CT poly main. OTOH with a powerful, smooth poly cross the velocity can be a very good main string if you tension it 3 lbs. lower than you would ordinarily string a muti main. The smooth poly cross makes it firm enough and spin friendly, and the V main makes it plush. OGSM mains would be strung 2 lbs. tighter and would be more crisp, less plush. Or string up a full bed of CT.
Ok. anything other than a poly cross is a waste of time. So I like the softer feeling shaped poly’s, and I am using a fb CT at the moment. Am I wasting time trying to hybrid the CT then with something like cream to soften it even more? Are the differences going to be noticeable?


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#12
Solinco Hyper G 1.25/ OGSM 1.30
Solinco Tourbite 1.25/ OGSM 1.30
Solinco Tourbite Soft 1.20/ OGSM 1.30

*Best poly/syn gut setups I have found. 50/52 in a RF97. Friends of mine that use Cyclone Tour use it full bed.
 
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Solinco Hyper G 1.25/ OGSM 1.30
Solinco Tourbite 1.25/ OGSM 1.30
Solinco Tourbite Soft 1.20/ OGSM 1.30

*Best poly/syn gut setups I have found. 50/52 in a RF97. Friends of mine that use Cyclone Tour use it full bed.
Thanks. Best in what way? Overall playability? Tension maintenance? I was thinking about tour bite soft but I like the power of CT.


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Thanks. Best in what way? Overall playability? Tension maintenance? I was thinking about tour bite soft but I like the power of CT.


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Yes, tension maintenance is necessary for this type of hybrid. Use a 16x19 frame so spin isn’t an issue. Get 10-12 hours of good play out of these set ups. Economical and easy on the arm.
 
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#15
CT 1.30/Revolve 1.25 would probably be a nice setup. Revolve is very slick coated, so the CT will deflect well for good spin. Tension the Revolve 1 or 2 lbs. lower than the CT. It may even be more durable than CT full since there are less edges creating friction.
 
#16
It wasn’t until my son started getting lessons 2 years ago that I decided to get back into tennis so after a bit of research and never playing with a Wilson, I bought a pro staff strung up with tour bite. It was definitely a difference coming from over powered syn gut but it wasn’t suiting me. RPM team seamed to be a decent string for me apart from being too firm for my liking and these little arm troubles hence the search for a softer poly. When I used CT for the first time, the two things I noticed straight away were the bite on the ball and the softer feel. Made me happy. Thanks again for the advice. Very much appreciated


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#17
I just recently just did a hybrid with Cyclone Tour in the mains with Isospeed Cream in the crosses at 48/49 lbs. Only played with it for 2 hours but it's super soft with lots of spin and control.
I have my list to get some Isospeed Cream the next time I order some string. Sounds like it would make a nice cross string.

Thanks for the suggestion!
 
#18
So I’ve decided to do a poly/ poly hybrid of mains CT/ crosses cream and then I’ll try mains CT/ crosses revolve. Any suggestions for tension of these hybrids? I’m stringing CT at 56lbs fb atm, cheers.


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