WADA website hacked, Serena & Venus were allowed to use prohibited substances

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Aussie Darcy

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I'm sure more will be to come and could be fake.
Serena supposedly tested positive to Prednisone. WADA had/have approved her to use this since March 2014 apparently.


Venus tested positive to triamcinolone. WADA approved her using it since December 2011.

Translation of one of the articles. Bear in mind, the hackers are some Russian group (fancy bear). So it could be BS and their bitter about Sharapova cause her appeal date got pushed back a month a few hours ago.
 
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Terenigma

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Ah, OP updated the post with more info. My post translation post is un-needed.

On topic:

I wanna see more come from this before i condemn the Williams sisters. Everyone has suspected this for years but if this is true then this could be horrible for tennis in general. Especially since the alleged hack came from WADA itself.
 
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Aussie Darcy

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Ah, OP updated the post with more info. My post translation post is un-needed.

On topic:

I wanna see more come from this before i condemn the Williams sisters. Everyone has suspected this for years but if this is true then this could be horrible for tennis in general. Especially since the alleged hack came from WADA itself.
Yeah for sure. Feel like it's what a lot of people suspected all along, that WADA allowed this sort of thing to happen. For all we know, the reasons are genuine but I think it just shows that a lot of these players are held to a lesser standard then others. Now the attacks have just focused on American athletes for now (Russia v USA), perhaps we will see more.
 

Man of steel

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Prednisolone and methylprednisolone from quick research are both used for autoimmune diseases.
Oxycodone is used for chronic pain
 

Sentinel

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Prednisolone and methylprednisolone from quick research are both used for autoimmune diseases.
Oxycodone is used for chronic pain
As a glucocorticosteroid, unauthorized or ad-hoc use of prednisolone during competition via oral, intravenous, intramuscular or rectal routes is banned under WADA anti-doping rules.[25] The drug may be used in competition with a TUE (Therapeutic Use Exemption), in compliance with WADA regulations. Local or topical use of prednisolone during competition as well as any use out of competition is not regulated.[25]
 

Man of steel

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As a glucocorticosteroid, unauthorized or ad-hoc use of prednisolone during competition via oral, intravenous, intramuscular or rectal routes is banned under WADA anti-doping rules.[25] The drug may be used in competition with a TUE (Therapeutic Use Exemption), in compliance with WADA regulations. Local or topical use of prednisolone during competition as well as any use out of competition is not regulated.[25]
This pretty much. These forms show that wada and ITF knew that they were taking it in competition and they were given an exemption since they had a medical reason.

The question is whether they broke away from it and used it more times than they were allocated. If not then there's no story here.
 

Aussie Darcy

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Prednisolone and methylprednisolone from quick research are both used for autoimmune diseases.
Oxycodone is used for chronic pain
I believe prednisone is a steroid and used to stop inflammation and also for autoimmune diseases. Makes sense for Venus with her Srojens which is autoimmune I believe but what's Serena's reason? 2014 wasn't even a good year for her anyway..
 

Sentinel

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This pretty much. These forms show that wada and ITF knew that they were taking it in competition and they were given an exemption since they had a medical reason.

The question is whether they broke away from it and used it more times than they were allocated. If not then there's no story here.
Appa based on the OP, it was for nine days only (the authorization date is two days after the expiration).

In Venus's case it is a single intramuscular shot.
 

alex87

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Appa based on the OP, it was for nine days only (the authorization date is two days after the expiration).

In Venus's case it is a single intramuscular shot.
In those days Serena won Miami against Na Li (the 2014 winner of AO). I'm wondering if she was really that sick
 

TupeloDanger

Professional
Pointless junk.

Serena's been "allowed" to get away with a lot more than Prednisone. Any athletic trainer in the world can confirm that for you. If anything, WADA's been paid under the table by those with vested interests to utterly bypass specific testing protocols for the untouchables like her and Agassi back in the day. Or -- as is done with big money clients like the NFL -- to give clandestine alerts as to specific testing dates so that cycles on and off illegal training aids can be managed.

That this dimwit still managed to wander in and test positive for some completely different banned substance is beyond stupid.
 

Aussie Darcy

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i don't see the big deal here. They got exemptions. They went through the proper procedures to take illegal substances.
I thought I'd jump ahead of the story and post the 'truth'. I could imagine people twisting it and making thread titles like 'Serena and Venus confirmed as drug cheats' when they were actually allowed these drugs from WADA. But it raises a lot of questions. Why the secrecy behind it all.
 

Aussie Darcy

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Now we just need something similar to happen on the men's side. Hmm, let's see- a player with an incredible physical advantage over all of his competitors, capable of playing 5-hour matches back-to-back with very little recovery time, and one who openly supports athletes who have tested positive as well as highly critical of the anti-doping policy. I wonder if anyone matches such a description?
Roselyn Bachelot. Cough cough. ;)
 

ArcspacE

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Pointless junk.

Serena's been "allowed" to get away with a lot more than Prednisone. Any athletic trainer in the world can confirm that for you. If anything, WADA's been paid under the table by those with vested interests to utterly bypass specific testing protocols for the untouchables like her and Agassi back in the day. Or -- as is done with big money clients like the NFL -- to give clandestine alerts as to specific testing dates so that cycles on and off illegal training aids can be managed.

That this dimwit still managed to wander in and test positive for some completely different banned substance is beyond stupid.
Preach it, brother
 

Man of steel

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I thought I'd jump ahead of the story and post the 'truth'. I could imagine people twisting it and making thread titles like 'Serena and Venus confirmed as drug cheats' when they were actually allowed these drugs from WADA. But it raises a lot of questions. Why the secrecy behind it all.
Then wada might as well post out other TUE's that they've given out for banned substances. And you can guaranyee that other top players especially from the ATP is taking them.

Fact is when there is a medical reason to take a banned substance and approved by a licenced doctor theres no need to release it to the public. Its a private issue. Its like doctors releasing info about their patients.
 

Aussie Darcy

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Then wada might as well post out other TUE's that they've given out for banned substances. And you can guaranyee that other top players especially from the ATP is taking them.

Fact is when there is a medical reason to take a banned substance and approved by a licenced doctor theres no need to release it to the public. Its a private issue. Its like doctors releasing info about their patients.
Oh for sure it's happening on the ATP I have no doubt.
 

sureshs

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Doesn't matter who approved it or why - pretty obvious by now whose agenda they serve
It was approved by a doctor for use over a short period of time, and WADA has the power to determine if they should grant an exemption. Why is that a problem? It is the other way. It would be a problem if WADA had no way of approval of exemptions because the matter would go to court as a human rights violation.
 

ArcspacE

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It was approved by a doctor for use over a short period of time, and WADA has the power to determine if they should grant an exemption. Why is that a problem? It is the other way. It would be a problem if WADA had no way of approval of exemptions because the matter would go to court as a human rights violation.
Cool story

Good luck if you truly believe that's how the world works
 

GabeT

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Now we just need something similar to happen on the men's side. Hmm, let's see- a player with an incredible physical advantage over all of his competitors, capable of playing 5-hour matches back-to-back with very little recovery time, and one who openly supports athletes who have tested positive as well as highly critical of the anti-doping policy. I wonder if anyone matches such a description?
Nadal?
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Cool story

Good luck if you truly believe that's how the world works
Well, anti-doping lists are huge and if no medical exemption is allowed, right from the onset of enforcement, it won't stand up in court. Systems in the human body are interconnected and chemicals can have multiple effects. For example, the codons are commonly given as painkillers. I was prescribed them after an auto accident, and felt that I was in heaven. If abuse of pain-killers was targeted without the ability of doctors to ever prescribe them, it would be a legal issue.

Could someone get an exemption once and then abuse it after the time is over and claim that as the reason for a positive test? Sure, but that is why "excretory times" are researched and published to determine how long a drug stays in the system.

I don't believe that the world works only in one way or the other. It works in many ways.
 

uscwang

Hall of Fame
Don't see a big problem here.
Only question is Serena's has effective date 21-Mar-2014, expiration date 30-Mar-2014, but was somehow authorized by ITF on 2-Apr-2014.
 
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ArcspacE

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Well, anti-doping lists are huge and if no medical exemption is allowed, right from the onset of enforcement, it won't stand up in court. Systems in the human body are interconnected and chemicals can have multiple effects. For example, the codons are commonly given as painkillers. I was prescribed them after an auto accident, and felt that I was in heaven. If abuse of pain-killers was targeted without the ability of doctors to ever prescribe them, it would be a legal issue.

Could someone get an exemption once and then abuse it after the time is over and claim that as the reason for a positive test? Sure, but that is why "excretory times" are researched and published to determine how long a drug stays in the system.

I don't believe that the world works only in one way or the other. It works in many ways.
None of what you've written above proves there is no corruption at the highest level, when in fact most evidence suggests the contrary
 
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