Wake Tennis

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
I am not a fan of Sean Hanity but the writer/reporter of the article has errors in it. It stated "Bresky's tenure, the Deacons have consistently ranked in the top 10 and won the national championship twice, in 2018 and 2019.".

No WF did win in 2018 but it did NOT win in 2019. Texas won it.

No wonder why people don't trust the media. Go figure.
 

silentkman

Professional
I am not a fan of Sean Hanity but the writer/reporter of the article has errors in it. It stated "Bresky's tenure, the Deacons have consistently ranked in the top 10 and won the national championship twice, in 2018 and 2019.".

No WF did win in 2018 but it did NOT win in 2019. Texas won it.

No wonder why people don't trust the media. Go figure.
what exactly are the other errors?
 

mikej

Hall of Fame

Bresky has always been a little dirty - we used to give him a hard time about his gambling issues when UVA would play at Duke 'hey tony, how much money you want to bet that Somdev loses this return game?' - there was a lot more leniency for fans to be outspoken pests back then, without the umpires intervening, for better or worse

but i guess if he's just cleverly putting rich, unqualified kids on his team to take advantage of perks like private jets and local housing, that's not so much worse than Duke putting DeJoy's kid on their tennis team (or Guliani's kid on their golf team years ago), and a heck of a lot better than his mentor Boland trying to meet college girls for drinks in the middle of the night to discuss their future
 

silentkman

Professional

Bresky has always been a little dirty - we used to give him a hard time about his gambling issues when UVA would play at Duke 'hey tony, how much money you want to bet that Somdev loses this return game?' - there was a lot more leniency for fans to be outspoken pests back then, without the umpires intervening, for better or worse

but i guess if he's just cleverly putting rich, unqualified kids on his team to take advantage of perks like private jets and local housing, that's not so much worse than Duke putting DeJoy's kid on their tennis team (or Guliani's kid on their golf team years ago), and a heck of a lot better than his mentor Boland trying to meet college girls for drinks in the middle of the night to discuss their future
A player who is a RS/Senior with a major of Undecided is on the Wake Forest team. I wonder who his father is?
 

JAJ

New User
I'm just baffled as to why a kid who could (probably) start at a decent mid-major would want to sit the bench for 4 years at Wake, knowing he'll get on the court against NC Central once in a while. A lot of lower tier but credible teams would have been happy to have him and if not him, at least the jet...
 

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
what exactly are the other errors?
I really don't want to discuss other errors in the article. I know that because an EVP in my company is also a big donor for WF golf team and he told me the inaccuracies of the story. I just pointed out the obvious inaccuracy in the article because anyone with Internet access can check out who won in 2019 in less than 30 seconds. That's really bad journalism. No wonder why people are very skeptical of the media these days, with valid reasons.

but i guess if he's just cleverly putting rich, unqualified kids on his team to take advantage of perks like private jets and local housing, that's not so much worse than Duke putting DeJoy's kid on their tennis team (or Guliani's kid on their golf team years ago), and a heck of a lot better than his mentor Boland trying to meet college girls for drinks in the middle of the night to discuss their future
I think this is a brilliant move by WF tennis coach. I wonder why more college tennis coaches do not do this. As long a those kids meet the school academic requirements and they are not taking any tennis scholarships away from kids who deserve them, why not? What wrong with having 18 kids on the team? Only the top 6 players get to play anyway. Those you called "unqualified" kids have wealthy parents that can help both the tennis team and the university with their financial backing. Those connections will help kids who come from "middle class" after graduation with jobs that they would not have otherwise. With financial backing from those parents/donors, WF will not have to worry about its tennis programs being cut in the future. What not to like? What wrong with flying on private jet as long as it meets the NCAA rule guideline.

I'm just baffled as to why a kid who could (probably) start at a decent mid-major would want to sit the bench for 4 years at Wake, knowing he'll get on the court against NC Central once in a while. A lot of lower tier but credible teams would have been happy to have him and if not him, at least the jet...
The mid-major schools do not have the alumni association like WF. By going to WF, a bench warmer will have so many opportunities after graduation because WF alumni will throw its weigh around to get that kid high paying job and will do everything it can to get that kid to succeed. You are not going to get that at a mid-major school. At some point, tennis will end and you have to make a living.

The EVP at my company attended WF for golf and he was a bench warmer for four years. He could have started at a decent mid-major but he chose WF. He got his first job through a WF alumni and kept moving up the ladder ever since. He is now EVP and making over 1M/y and still playing golf. I don't think he would have made 1M/yr had he decided to attend a mid-major school.

Btw, Arnold Palmer was a WF alum.
 

silentkman

Professional
I really don't want to discuss other errors in the article. I know that because an EVP in my company is also a big donor for WF golf team and he told me the inaccuracies of the story. I just pointed out the obvious inaccuracy in the article because anyone with Internet access can check out who won in 2019 in less than 30 seconds. That's really bad journalism. No wonder why people are very skeptical of the media these days, with valid reasons.



I think this is a brilliant move by WF tennis coach. I wonder why more college tennis coaches do not do this. As long a those kids meet the school academic requirements and they are not taking any tennis scholarships away from kids who deserve them, why not? What wrong with having 18 kids on the team? Only the top 6 players get to play anyway. Those you called "unqualified" kids have wealthy parents that can help both the tennis team and the university with their financial backing. Those connections will help kids who come from "middle class" after graduation with jobs that they would not have otherwise. With financial backing from those parents/donors, WF will not have to worry about its tennis programs being cut in the future. What not to like? What wrong with flying on private jet as long as it meets the NCAA rule guideline.



The mid-major schools do not have the alumni association like WF. By going to WF, a bench warmer will have so many opportunities after graduation because WF alumni will throw its weigh around to get that kid high paying job and will do everything it can to get that kid to succeed. You are not going to get that at a mid-major school. At some point, tennis will end and you have to make a living.

The EVP at my company attended WF for golf and he was a bench warmer for four years. He could have started at a decent mid-major but he chose WF. He got his first job through a WF alumni and kept moving up the ladder ever since. He is now EVP and making over 1M/y and still playing golf. I don't think he would have made 1M/yr had he decided to attend a mid-major school.

Btw, Arnold Palmer was a WF alum.
Dude, you constantly talk about how money someone makes. it's annoying as hell. damn, anybody can be still playing golf. it doesn't take a ton of athletic ability to play.
 

Gemini

Hall of Fame
I am not a fan of Sean Hanity but the writer/reporter of the article has errors in it. It stated "Bresky's tenure, the Deacons have consistently ranked in the top 10 and won the national championship twice, in 2018 and 2019.".

No WF did win in 2018 but it did NOT win in 2019. Texas won it.

No wonder why people don't trust the media. Go figure.

Did the article change? I see where it says WF won the indoor and NCAA championship in 2018 and the ACC championship in 2019.

"During Bresky's tenure, the Deacons have consistently ranked in the top 10, won indoor and NCAA national championships in 2018, and the ACC championship in 2019."
 

bobleenov1963

Hall of Fame
damn, anybody can be still playing golf. it doesn't take a ton of athletic ability to play.
You can also make the point that anybody can also play tennis. Golf does not require athletic ability, really?

Anyone can play tennis; however, it is another matter to get to UTR 10+. Anyone can play golf; however, it is another matter to become a "scratch" golfer.
 

silentkman

Professional
You can also make the point that anybody can also play tennis. Golf does not require athletic ability, really?

Anyone can play tennis; however, it is another matter to get to UTR 10+. Anyone can play golf; however, it is another matter to become a "scratch" golfer.
seriously, don't compare golf and tennis. Golf is what you do when you are out of athletic options. I admire a 80 year tennis player infinitely more than an 80 year old golfer. obviously golf is a better career choice than tennis.
 
but i guess if he's just cleverly putting rich, unqualified kids on his team to take advantage of perks like private jets and local housing, that's not so much worse than Duke putting DeJoy's kid on their tennis team (or Guliani's kid on their golf team years ago), and a heck of a lot better than his mentor Boland trying to meet college girls for drinks in the middle of the night to discuss their future
That probably goes on everywhere and not just in country club sports. Duke men's basketball had Joe Pags on back in early 2000s, OU football has Joe C's son, etc...

Hannity's son junior tennis profile is actually not that bad: 4* recruit, always top 200 his years in high school. Coming out of high school, could have easily played at some mid/lower tier D2/D3 or walked on to D1. Obviously, he choose the latter. On all of these top D1 teams, you have kids that are 4* recruits or worse, riding the bench. Most are just happy to be part of a team, while a few are doing all they can behind the scenes to get better in hopes of one day playing (i.e. Alex Kobelt at Ohio State who was never better than top 450 / 2* recruit and won quite a few match his last year). To me: this is a non-story, but because of the current media/political environment, it can be twisted optically as one. If Sean Patrick Hannity was born Sean Patrick Navarro or Sean Patrick LaFrance, there would be no story
 

silentkman

Professional
That probably goes on everywhere and not just in country club sports. Duke men's basketball had Joe Pags on back in early 2000s, OU football has Joe C's son, etc...

Hannity's son junior tennis profile is actually not that bad: 4* recruit, always top 200 his years in high school. Coming out of high school, could have easily played at some mid/lower tier D2/D3 or walked on to D1. Obviously, he choose the latter. On all of these top D1 teams, you have kids that are 4* recruits or worse, riding the bench. Most are just happy to be part of a team, while a few are doing all they can behind the scenes to get better in hopes of one day playing (i.e. Alex Kobelt at Ohio State who was never better than top 450 / 2* recruit and won quite a few match his last year). To me: this is a non-story, but because of the current media/political environment, it can be twisted optically as one. If Sean Patrick Hannity was born Sean Patrick Navarro or Sean Patrick LaFrance, there would be no story
His major is undecided as a RS/Senior?
 
That probably goes on everywhere and not just in country club sports. Duke men's basketball had Joe Pags on back in early 2000s, OU football has Joe C's son, etc...

Hannity's son junior tennis profile is actually not that bad: 4* recruit, always top 200 his years in high school. Coming out of high school, could have easily played at some mid/lower tier D2/D3 or walked on to D1. Obviously, he choose the latter. On all of these top D1 teams, you have kids that are 4* recruits or worse, riding the bench. Most are just happy to be part of a team, while a few are doing all they can behind the scenes to get better in hopes of one day playing (i.e. Alex Kobelt at Ohio State who was never better than top 450 / 2* recruit and won quite a few match his last year). To me: this is a non-story, but because of the current media/political environment, it can be twisted optically as one. If Sean Patrick Hannity was born Sean Patrick Navarro or Sean Patrick LaFrance, there would be no story
There's other aspects in the piece that are not normal. Like the kid living with a volunteer coach and the head coach buying the house next door.
 

mikej

Hall of Fame

andfor

Legend
The rub is the major was undecided. they obviously changed it within the week.
You got a screen shot and date of the change? HAHA

they don't even have his name listed correctly on the roster - he's just listed as sean patrick - besides the issues raised in the above article, if you don't have anything to hide, don't hide his name

I recall when he first was listed on the team seeing his full name posted on the roster. Not sure when it changed and don't have a screenshot. HAHA.
With what his father does for a living, I'm guessing they had reason to change it for less attention. Not defending the name change but it seems obvious when looking at it objectively. Pretty sure the haters will not care.
 

silentkman

Professional
You got a screen shot and date of the change? HAHA


I recall when he first was listed on the team seeing his full name posted on the roster. Not sure when it changed and don't have a screenshot. HAHA.
With what his father does for a living, I'm guessing they had reason to change it for less attention. Not defending the name change but it seems obvious when looking at it objectively. Pretty sure the haters will not care.
 

JLyon

Hall of Fame
You got a screen shot and date of the change? HAHA


I recall when he first was listed on the team seeing his full name posted on the roster. Not sure when it changed and don't have a screenshot. HAHA.
With what his father does for a living, I'm guessing they had reason to change it for less attention. Not defending the name change but it seems obvious when looking at it objectively. Pretty sure the haters will not care.
his parents did get a divorce recently so he may have went to his mother's maiden name, but also with how polarized his dad is with the left, probably smart to drop the last name to avoid confrontations due to his last name
 
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