Wanna feel old thread: Tennis edition

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Agree in general, but I'm not so sure about the bolded part. I think there was a lot of technological change from say 1950 to 1980, but like you, in order to check from a solid source, and not just the internet I'd have to ask one of my grandparents or some older member here. Obviously our parents born in the 60's and 70's have seen huge changes though. Bigger than any we're likely to see IMO. The internet boom being the biggest one, along with the advent of the smartphone.

And having said that I actually wonder what types of changes we're likely to see (or have already seen) in the next 20-30 years. Some really new things have taken off even in the last 5 years or so like live streaming, but I'm not convinced our generation will see anything truly groundbreaking like our parents did. I wonder often about how much farther technology can actually go, or what the world will look like in 100 years or 1000 when we're all passed on. Not meaning to be morbid, but I do think about that often.
Thought I had responded to this lol but yes I see where you're coming from. Before our province got shutdown again, I was talking with my grandma who is 80 (born in 1940) and how much she has seen over the course of her life. Citing Billy Joel's song, she has essentially experienced everything from the end of WWII, the invention of the microwave, Disney, rise of Red China/Soviet, Elvis, the Polio Vaccine, JFK, Vietnam, moon landing, Civil Rights Movement (she was in disbelief this still goes on today), invention of the TV, evolution of landline phones, The Beatles, Charter of Rights & Freedoms establishment here in Canada, etc. all before I was even alive lol and that's not getting to the stuff we've seen with people my grandma's age over the last 20-30 years.

In terms of what we'll be seeing, I guess Artificial Intelligence is going to be the big one, along with electric cars and maybe space exploration (shoutout Elon Musk). We are a bit fortunate to be born into a world that is already so established and everything is at our front door (figuratively) in comparison to our parents and grandparents who's world as kids is a total 180 to now in most ways.
 
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Last time Djokovic won RG, Tik-Tok didn't even exist.
Isn't Tik Tok like really new though? I didn't even know it existed until the beginning of quarantine around March/April last year. Novak won RG nearly 5 years ago (wow time flies)
 

esm

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1994 - a couple of cool things happened, in no particular order, of course.

AA won the US Open unseeded, with a super cool Bumblebee :love:

28.8kbps dial up modern - the first swim suit photo took ages to come up. I think it was Elle Macpherson :love:
 

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The last slams won by these following players occurred in closer time proximity to the pre-open era days than 2021:

McEnroe (1984 US Open) - 16 years into OE; 36 years since

Edberg (1992 US Open) - 24 years into OE; 28 years since

Courier (1993 AO) - 25 years into OE; 28 years since

Chang (1989 RG) - 21 years into OE; 31 years since

Wilander (1988 US Open) - 20 years into OE; 32 years since

Lendl (1990 AO) - 22 years into OE; 31 years since

Bruguera (1994 RG) - 26 years into OE; 26.5 years since
 

Jack the Hack

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The last slams won by these following players occurred in closer time proximity to the pre-open era days than 2021:

McEnroe (1984 US Open) - 16 years into OE; 36 years since

Edberg (1992 US Open) - 24 years into OE; 28 years since

Courier (1993 AO) - 25 years into OE; 28 years since

Chang (1989 RG) - 21 years into OE; 31 years since

Wilander (1988 US Open) - 20 years into OE; 32 years since

Lendl (1990 AO) - 22 years into OE; 31 years since

Bruguera (1994 RG) - 26 years into OE; 26.5 years since
Do I wanna' feel old? Well, I watched all of the matches on this list when they happened! :oops:

I was 12 years old when McEnroe won his last Grand Slam singles title in 1984. Johnny Mac is now 61 years old!

Weird though... I don't feel that old. I'm almost 49, but my body has held up decently, my mind is sharp, and I feel more confident in who I am than when I was in my 20s or 30s. So I guess I have that going for me...
 

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I just saw a Caroline Wozniacki thread restricted to the former pro player section of TTW.....I remember watching her when she was like 19 :eek:
 

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When Roger Federer shocked Pete Sampras at Wimbledon in 2001:

- Global markets were still feeling the effects of the bursting of the dot com bubble.
- The iPod did not exist.
- The Twin Towers still existed.
- Windows Me (Millennium) was the latest Microsoft release.
- Trailers were starting to crop up for Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone...
- Shrek had just released in cinemas though.
- No one had heard of the XBOX.
- Wikipedia had been around for just 6 months.
- MSN Messenger was all the rave for instant communication along with text messaging, with no Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, Instagram or WhatsApp in the picture.
- Jannik Sinner was yet to be born.
Bumping thread. I was talking to a few friends recently and we realized how different 2001 was from 2011 but 2011 doesn't feel that different from today (2021) even though they're both one full decade apart.

- Today, I use Google and Wikipedia to search for things and I did the same in 2011; couldn't do either in 2001

- Today, I begrudgingly use Facebook and Twitter the same way I did in 2011; social media was non-existent back in 2001

- I watch stuff using a flat screen TV just like in 2011; in 2001, I still had those large 19-inch cubic TVs

- I use a personal laptop for work/leisure just like in 2011; in 2001, I was still using one of those chunky grey family desktops

- Today, I use YouTube, Spotify and other playlists to listen to music the same way I did in 2011; in 2001, the only way I could listen to music was either through Limewire, burning CDs, buying CDs from Sunrise, MTV top 10s/100s, or listening to the radio (much less efficient than 2011)

- I could watch movies on Netflix in 2011 the same way I do now; in 2001, you needed to get your hands on a DVD from Blockbuster to watch films

- Today, when I miss a game or a show I follow, I can live stream it or watch it later online....just like in 2011; in 2001, if I didn't leverage a good ol' VHS recording, I was gonna miss it outright

- I shopped online in 2011 just like I do today; in 2001, what even was online shopping lol

- iPhones dominated the market in 2011 similar to today; in 2001, those of us who could afford high-end cellular devices used Nokias (those on tighter budgets used flip phones and payphones)

- A car modelled in 2001 was deemed as ancient in 2011 (i.e. our blue Honda Civic from '01) and while a 2011 modelled car is certainly not viewed as a new car, no one ever says "wow that's so old and banged up, you gotta get a new vehicle" today

- Using sports video games as an example (NBA 2k, FIFA, Top Spin, etc.), the quality and design of it today is clearly better than it was in 2011 but not by earth-shattering margins; comparatively, the graphics for sports video games back in 2001 from the perspective of someone in 2011 (let alone now) would look like it was done by a middle schooler

- In sports, players like LeBron, Brady, Crosby, Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Ronaldo, Messi, Hamilton, and Vettel were at the top of their discipline in 2011 just like they still are now; however, the sports landscape was jarringly different in 2001 in almost every aspect compared to 2011

- Although the illness currently going around changed all trajectories starting in 2020, 2019 didn't seem very different from 2011 in the political landscape. On the other hand, 2009 was basically another world compared to 2001 whether it's 9/11, the financial recession, global housing crisis, fall of many autocracies, rise of China, revival of Russia, a record 12 new EU members or electing the first black US President - a lot changed during those 8 years in comparison.


Maybe I'm just getting older so the years don't seem as different from one another anymore but I genuinely feel like if you dropped my current self into 2011 I won't notice much difference or have much trouble adapting, but if you dropped 2011 me back to 2001 it would feel like an entirely different world and require some major adjustments.

It could also mean everything is more sophisticated now in a sense that it can be used for several years and not feel old while things back in the early 2000s were consistently changing since they weren't sustainable long-term and many found quicker solutions to it
 
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Jack the Hack

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Bumping thread. I was talking to a few friends recently and we realized how different 2001 was from 2011 but 2011 doesn't feel that different from today (2021) even though they're all one full decade apart.

- Today, I use Google and Wikipedia to search for things and I did the same in 2011; couldn't do either in 2001

- Today, I begrudgingly use Facebook and Twitter the same way I did in 2011; social media was non-existent back in 2001

- I watch stuff using a flat screen TV just like in 2011; in 2001, I still had those large 19-inch cubic TVs

- I use a personal laptop for work/leisure just like in 2011; in 2001, I was still using one of those chunky grey family desktops

- Today, I use YouTube, Spotify and other playlists to listen to music the same way I did in 2011; in 2001, the only way I could listen to music was either through Limewire, burning CDs, buying CDs from Sunrise, or listening to the radio (much less efficient than 2011)

- I could watch movies on Netflix in 2011 the same way I do now; in 2001, you needed to get your hands on a DVD from Blockbuster to watch films

- Today, when I miss a game or a show I follow, I can live stream it or watch it later online....just like in 2011; in 2001, if I didn't leverage a good ol' VHS recording, I was gonna miss it outright

- I shopped online in 2011 just like I do today; in 2001, what even was online shopping lol

- iPhones dominated the market in 2011 similar to today; in 2001, those of us who could afford high-end cellular devices used Nokias (those on tighter budgets used flip phones and payphones)

- A car modelled in 2001 was deemed as ancient in 2011 (i.e. our blue Honda Civic from '01) while a 2011 modelled car is certainly not viewed as a new car but no one ever says "wow that's so old and banged up, you gotta get a new vehicle" today

- Using sports video games as an example (NBA 2k, FIFA, Top Spin, etc.), the quality and design of it today is clearly better than it was in 2011 but not by earth-shattering margins; the graphics for sports video games back in 2001 from the perspective of someone in 2011 (let alone now) would look like it was done by a middle schooler

- In sports, players like LeBron, Brady, Crosby, Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Ronaldo, Messi, Hamilton, and Vettel were at the top of their discipline in 2011 just like they still are now; however, the sports landscape was jarringly different in 2001 compared to 2011

- Although the illness going around changed this progression starting in 2020, 2019 didn't seem very different from 2011 in the political landscape. On the other hand, 2009 was basically another world compared to 2001 whether it's 9/11, the financial recession, global housing crisis, fall of many autocracies, and/or electing the first black US President - a lot changed during those 8 years in comparison.


Maybe I'm just getting older so the years don't seem as different from one another anymore but I genuinely feel like if you dropped my current self into 2011 I won't notice much difference or have much trouble adapting, but if you dropped 2011 me back to 2001 it would feel like an entirely different world and require some major adjustments.

It could also mean everything is more sophisticated now in a sense that it can be used for several years and not feel old while things back in the early 2000s were consistently changing since they weren't sustainable long-term and many found quicker solutions to it
This is a really compelling set of observations and I agree that the changes from 2001 to 2010 seem more disruptive than from 2011 to 2020. Great post! (y)
 

Krish872007

G.O.A.T.
Bumping thread. I was talking to a few friends recently and we realized how different 2001 was from 2011 but 2011 doesn't feel that different from today (2021) even though they're both one full decade apart.

- Today, I use Google and Wikipedia to search for things and I did the same in 2011; couldn't do either in 2001

- Today, I begrudgingly use Facebook and Twitter the same way I did in 2011; social media was non-existent back in 2001

- I watch stuff using a flat screen TV just like in 2011; in 2001, I still had those large 19-inch cubic TVs

- I use a personal laptop for work/leisure just like in 2011; in 2001, I was still using one of those chunky grey family desktops

- Today, I use YouTube, Spotify and other playlists to listen to music the same way I did in 2011; in 2001, the only way I could listen to music was either through Limewire, burning CDs, buying CDs from Sunrise, MTV top 10s/100s, or listening to the radio (much less efficient than 2011)

- I could watch movies on Netflix in 2011 the same way I do now; in 2001, you needed to get your hands on a DVD from Blockbuster to watch films

- Today, when I miss a game or a show I follow, I can live stream it or watch it later online....just like in 2011; in 2001, if I didn't leverage a good ol' VHS recording, I was gonna miss it outright

- I shopped online in 2011 just like I do today; in 2001, what even was online shopping lol

- iPhones dominated the market in 2011 similar to today; in 2001, those of us who could afford high-end cellular devices used Nokias (those on tighter budgets used flip phones and payphones)

- A car modelled in 2001 was deemed as ancient in 2011 (i.e. our blue Honda Civic from '01) and while a 2011 modelled car is certainly not viewed as a new car, no one ever says "wow that's so old and banged up, you gotta get a new vehicle" today

- Using sports video games as an example (NBA 2k, FIFA, Top Spin, etc.), the quality and design of it today is clearly better than it was in 2011 but not by earth-shattering margins; comparatively, the graphics for sports video games back in 2001 from the perspective of someone in 2011 (let alone now) would look like it was done by a middle schooler

- In sports, players like LeBron, Brady, Crosby, Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Ronaldo, Messi, Hamilton, and Vettel were at the top of their discipline in 2011 just like they still are now; however, the sports landscape was jarringly different in 2001 in almost every aspect compared to 2011

- Although the illness currently going around changed all trajectories starting in 2020, 2019 didn't seem very different from 2011 in the political landscape. On the other hand, 2009 was basically another world compared to 2001 whether it's 9/11, the financial recession, global housing crisis, fall of many autocracies, rise of China, revival of Russia, a record 12 new EU members or electing the first black US President - a lot changed during those 8 years in comparison.


Maybe I'm just getting older so the years don't seem as different from one another anymore but I genuinely feel like if you dropped my current self into 2011 I won't notice much difference or have much trouble adapting, but if you dropped 2011 me back to 2001 it would feel like an entirely different world and require some major adjustments.

It could also mean everything is more sophisticated now in a sense that it can be used for several years and not feel old while things back in the early 2000s were consistently changing since they weren't sustainable long-term and many found quicker solutions to it
A very interesting take on this and I agree with pretty much everything. The new frontier was certainly in the mid-2000s; there hasn't been quite as much fundamental technological disruption in the last decade, more a case of improving on concepts that already existed in the late 2000s. From my perspective the key change since 2011 would be:

Social change:
- The exponential rise of social media and the emergence of "Generation Z". While Twitter was founded in 2006, it didn't really take off until 2010 or so, alongside Instagram and WhatsApp. All platforms that now have an extensive user base
- Awareness and accountability - significant increase in the speed and reach of information flows. Both a good and a bad thing. Good in the sense that we are potentially more in tune with the world around us. Bad in the sense that there is inherent selection bias in the information we receive - or choose to receive. Accountability for past actions. Communication needs to be unambiguous and carefully selected to get exactly the right message across, and to avoid potential conflict.

We'll probably enter another period of disruption in the next couple of years - and perhaps we could be talking about a radically different world by 2030. Though I wouldn't mind reliving 2011 if it was possible
 

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A very interesting take on this and I agree with pretty much everything. The new frontier was certainly in the mid-2000s; there hasn't been quite as much fundamental technological disruption in the last decade, more a case of improving on concepts that already existed in the late 2000s. From my perspective the key change since 2011 would be:

Social change:
- The exponential rise of social media and the emergence of "Generation Z". While Twitter was founded in 2006, it didn't really take off until 2010 or so, alongside Instagram and WhatsApp. All platforms that now have an extensive user base
- Awareness and accountability - significant increase in the speed and reach of information flows. Both a good and a bad thing. Good in the sense that we are potentially more in tune with the world around us. Bad in the sense that there is inherent selection bias in the information we receive - or choose to receive. Accountability for past actions. Communication needs to be unambiguous and carefully selected to get exactly the right message across, and to avoid potential conflict.

We'll probably enter another period of disruption in the next couple of years - and perhaps we could be talking about a radically different world by 2030. Though I wouldn't mind reliving 2011 if it was possible
Yeah I agree, I think the rise of social media and mass internet is probably the biggest difference now compared to 2011. As you mentioned, accountability is a big one - you truly had to do something really messed up to be publicly condemned back in 2011, but nowadays, everyone's getting cancelled and punished for even the smallest things that may seen controversial.

Gen Z is also a very unique age group as well. Even though the vast majority of them are not yet adults, their voices are more "heard" and marketing researchers are already discovering their habits a lot earlier than my generation was when I was their age since they are already doing all these things online using all available platforms nowadays

All in all though, I feel like the 2010s were the least disruptive decade in my lifetime. For example, 1990 (my YOB) was drastically different than 2000; 2000 was a jarringly different world compared to 2010, but 2010 isn't all that different from today. As you said though, 2030 is likely going to look completely different than 2020 and I'm equally as excited and nervous to see it lol
 

TimHenmanATG

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I think a lot of people on this thread are looking through rose-tinted spectacles, and ignoring the fact that their perceptions of the past are bound to be altered by maturity.

I'm on the cusp of 40, and I first got online in the late 90's. I can honestly say that I have not noticed any drastic change over the last 20 years.

Social media sites are just a more efficient form of what was always there in the first place.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Yeah I agree, I think the rise of social media and mass internet is probably the biggest difference now compared to 2011. As you mentioned, accountability is a big one - you truly had to do something really messed up to be publicly condemned back in 2011, but nowadays, everyone's getting cancelled and punished for even the smallest things that may seen controversial.

Gen Z is also a very unique age group as well. Even though the vast majority of them are not yet adults, their voices are more "heard" and marketing researchers are already discovering their habits a lot earlier than my generation was when I was their age since they are already doing all these things online using all available platforms nowadays

All in all though, I feel like the 2010s were the least disruptive decade in my lifetime. For example, 1990 (my YOB) was drastically different than 2000; 2000 was a jarringly different world compared to 2010, but 2010 isn't all that different from today. As you said though, 2030 is likely going to look completely different than 2020 and I'm equally as excited and nervous to see it lol
Well, eventually technology stops advancing and it hits a wall until something new comes along. We have been in that phase for the last 10-11 years, IMO.
 

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
I think a lot of people on this thread are looking through rose-tinted spectacles, and ignoring the fact that their perceptions of the past are bound to be altered by maturity.

I'm on the cusp of 40, and I first got online in the late 90's. I can honestly say that I have not noticed any drastic change over the last 20 years.

Social media sites are just a more efficient form of what was always there in the first place.
As someone of roughly the same age as you, may I remind you of 9/11, the War on Terror, election of the first black US President, Brexit, Trump, climate change, technological advances in mobile phones / computing / social media / online shopping, oh and that disease we're not allowed to mention. And these are just the biggest changes.
 

clout

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As someone of roughly the same age as you, may I remind you of 9/11, the War on Terror, election of the first black US President, Brexit, Trump, climate change, technological advances in mobile phones / computing / social media / online shopping, oh and that disease we're not allowed to mention. And these are just the biggest changes.
Oh yeah things have changed a lot since the turn of the millennium in 2000, it would be ignorant to say otherwise. I just feel like the last 10 years in particular weren’t as disruptive as ones before. In fact, I feel like nowadays is just a more developed version of 2011 where everything is more advanced/robust but not fundamentally different in extreme ways like before.

However, back in 2011, 2001 was such a different world in so many ways in comparison

And in 2001, 1991 was another universe in nearly every aspect and so on

Yet here I am still thinking years like 2005-2009 are “recent” when in reality those years are just as far away from us now as 1995-1999 were in 2011, and 1985-1989 were in 2001 (take that in lol) - no one would’ve ever considered the 80s as “recent” in ‘01 or the 90’s “recent” in ‘11
 
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Well, eventually technology stops advancing and it hits a wall until something new comes along. We have been in that phase for the last 10-11 years, IMO.
Yeah I agree. I was going to say some of Elon’s work was a disruptive 2010s thing but then I did some research and found out both Tesla wand SpaceX were created in the 2000s (which I had previously mentioned as a far more world changing decade) so yea in a way we’ve sorta been stagnant in many industries although as an optimist, I like to see it as us being so developed right now to the point where groundbreaking change won’t be as rampant over a certain period (in this case it’s been 2011-present for me).
 
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