WaPo article on Evert today - "Chris Evert played tennis with a patience that's in current demand."

BTURNER

Legend
Americans as a class are definitely not a patient group of people, and our government certainly reflects that truth.

"“Patience is reflected in your attitude and actions,” Evert says by phone, after you call her up to ask if you could borrow some of hers. “Because you have so much time, what do you do with that time?” she asks rhetorically. “You think. You learn. A person’s qualities as they go through a peak moment like this, defines us.....“

"Life is stopped,” Evert says. “And it’s a time to think about the things we’ve been avoiding. Things we should be thinking of. We should be getting more clarity. People have a lot of time to, again, think and reevaluate priorities. It’s a gut check.”
 

CHIP72

Semi-Pro
Easy to stop, think and be patient when you aren’t living pay check to pay check.

To be fair, the article's author, Sally Jenkins, addresses that point:

"Some people, of course, have every right to be impatient, even desperate, during this pandemic and pause: the small business owner, the furloughed, the unemployed. But the rest of us have no excuse; it’s simply a trial of temperament, and a revealing one."
 

jrepac

Hall of Fame
Great article. Evert's game is so under-appreciated by the current generation of viewers. She could hang with the best of them, no question. She did not play 'patty-cake,' more like cat and mouse. And she was NOT the mouse! MN called her a "poker faced assassin" (in the nicest way, of course!)
 
Great article. Evert's game is so under-appreciated by the current generation of viewers. She could hang with the best of them, no question. She did not play 'patty-cake,' more like cat and mouse. And she was NOT the mouse! MN called her a "poker faced assassin" (in the nicest way, of course!)

Evert adds to that though by constantly downplaying her abilities and greatness in commentary.
 

Gary Duane

G.O.A.T.
Easy to stop, think and be patient when you aren’t living pay check to pay check.
And have not lost your job. I'm sick of lectures from people who have no financial problems when some of us are financially devastated by what is going on.
 
Great article. Evert's game is so under-appreciated by the current generation of viewers. She could hang with the best of them, no question. She did not play 'patty-cake,' more like cat and mouse. And she was NOT the mouse! MN called her a "poker faced assassin" (in the nicest way, of course!)

34 consecutive semi finals. :oops:

Absolute mastery of the game from a technical, mental and physical standpoint.

She is so self-effacing (a necessity in her professional broadcast work), but if you know, you know. I love watching her matches.
 

BTURNER

Legend
34 consecutive semi finals. :oops:

Absolute mastery of the game from a technical, mental and physical standpoint.

She is so self-effacing (a necessity in her professional broadcast work), but if you know, you know. I love watching her matches.
She proved just how far you can get in this game, with some luck, some innate athletic talent and absolutely massive amounts of discipline and ambition. Its about attention to details and the tenacity to ensure that the attention to those details will not falter.
 

PDJ

G.O.A.T.
For me, this quote from the WP article sums up the Evert attitude on-court:

"There’s never a rash shot, never an uncontrolled blast. Or a self-pitying bleat of wounded ego, either. There’s just … mastery."
 

Moose Malloy

G.O.A.T.
Heh, funny to see Sally Jenkins write that. Her “Is Tennis Dying?” SI article in 1994 kinda of set back the sport in the US for a while. Made most pros seem like selfish jerks.
 
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G.O.A.T.
Heh, funny to see Sally Jenkins write that. Her “Is Tennis Dying?” SI article in 1994 kinda of set back the sport in the US for a while. Made most pros seem like selfish jerks.
Never heard of Jenkins before.
Google here I come.
 

suwanee4712

Professional
Sally's right. Chris played like she had a blade in her hand. It was a surgeon's scalpel to be more precise.

I also love the Bruce Lee quote about patience being concentrated strength.

Funny enough, I was contemplating putting on Chris' 87 French win over Katerina Maleeva on the old bull ring court. Masterful.
 
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G.O.A.T.
Sally's right. Chris played like she had a blade in her hand. It was a surgeon's scalpel to be more precise.

I also love the Bruce Lee quote about patience being concentrated strength.

Funny enough, I was contemplating putting on Chris' 87 French win over Katerina Maleeva on the old bull ring court. Masterful.
Is the match you refer to on any site?
 

DMan

Professional
She proved just how far you can get in this game, with some luck, some innate athletic talent and absolutely massive amounts of discipline and ambition. Its about attention to details and the tenacity to ensure that the attention to those details will not falter.

Chris Evert got very, very far in terms of excellence and durability on the pro tour. I'm not sure how much some 'luck' had to do with it. Afterall, who gets to define what luck is? Do the players get to choose their own luck? As far as Evert's athletic talent., I'd say she had more than a bit of innate athletic talent. IMHO, her athletic talents were supreme and underappreciated. I think most would agree - and Evert would be the first to say so - she didn't look a typical "jock." But did you ever see Chris get tired in a match? Winded and out of breath? How often did she retire mid-match or mid-tournament because she pulled up lame? Was she constantly overusing certain muscles or overcompensating with her strokes? Did she have a glaring weakness in a stroke, such as serve, volley, overhead, FH, BH, drop shot, lob? How often was Chris really late to the ball? Or appear terribly out of shape or slow? Would she flail at balls, attempt power shots without any power? Did you ever see Chris Evert play tennis looking uncoordinated in any way?

That's the thing. Chris athletic talents were so pure, so finely tuned, so immaculately executed that fooled you into believing she didn't have them. Pair her athletic gifts with her iron clad mental fortitude, self-belief and self-confidence, determination, [plus discipline, tenacity, and ambition] and hatred for losing and you have the right combination for achieving the highest degree of success in the history of professional tennis (Chris won 90% of her matches in her career - which is more than 1300 wins in a 19 year career!, second to none).
 

BTURNER

Legend
Chris Evert got very, very far in terms of excellence and durability on the pro tour. I'm not sure how much some 'luck' had to do with it. Afterall, who gets to define what luck is? Do the players get to choose their own luck? As far as Evert's athletic talent., I'd say she had more than a bit of innate athletic talent. IMHO, her athletic talents were supreme and underappreciated. I think most would agree - and Evert would be the first to say so - she didn't look a typical "jock." But did you ever see Chris get tired in a match? Winded and out of breath? How often did she retire mid-match or mid-tournament because she pulled up lame? Was she constantly overusing certain muscles or overcompensating with her strokes? Did she have a glaring weakness in a stroke, such as serve, volley, overhead, FH, BH, drop shot, lob? How often was Chris really late to the ball? Or appear terribly out of shape or slow? Would she flail at balls, attempt power shots without any power? Did you ever see Chris Evert play tennis looking uncoordinated in any way?

That's the thing. Chris athletic talents were so pure, so finely tuned, so immaculately executed that fooled you into believing she didn't have them. Pair her athletic gifts with her iron clad mental fortitude, self-belief and self-confidence, determination, [plus discipline, tenacity, and ambition] and hatred for losing and you have the right combination for achieving the highest degree of success in the history of professional tennis (Chris won 90% of her matches in her career - which is more than 1300 wins in a 19 year career!, second to none).
Her athletic gifts were not showy or flashy but they were the kinds of gifts on which the 'showy' or 'flashy' depended. But she definitely had her share of luck, especially the luck of being born into the perfect family situation/ ready made and personalized coaching and tennis academy to develop her talents and exploit them. Chris Evert, tennis icon would only exist in a very narrow set of historical circumstances, and all of them involve this extraordinary Dad/ coach figure, and mother figure she and all these tennis playing siblings sitting in Florida Keys in the late sixties, were exposed to, that created this perfect recipe for turning a new kind of shy somewhat introverted girl into tennis protégé. She was pining for a cheerleaders outfit and some sleepovers, not a tennis career .

She would have excelled at something because her character traits demanded it, but there are plenty of tennis champions out there who you know were destined for sports greatness at some sport or other, but young Chrissie was not one of them.
 
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suwanee4712

Professional
Many of tennis' great athletes could have excelled in other sports. But, I agree that Evert would have excelled at anything she tried.

However, I'm glad that she chose not to be an accountant or fisherwoman.
 
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