Was Federer of 2015 Summer his highest ever level?

[mahesh69a]

Yeah right!!! His best level was when he lost to Djokovic in the finals of W, how convenient?

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

Re-watched it recently. Val Kilmer should have won an Oscar for his portrayal of Doc. Don't think he was even nominated.

Funny thing is I only recently read up on how that was in fact the case, and can't help but agree, ESPECIALLY with the fact that he wasn't even nominated. Tommy Lee Jones won for his role in The Fugitive that year it seems. I watched that film (for the first time surprisingly) fairly recently and while I thought it was a good movie and a good performance from TLJ worthy of recognition, I didn't really think it was anything I'd necessarily reminisce about much. Doc Holliday, however, came across as straight up method and absolutely stole the show amongst an amazing cast who all put in really good performances (imo).

 

[blablavla]

Dear sir,

Do you know the difference between quality of performance, and quality of outcome?

Kind regards

isn't it funny to read this from you?

 

[blablavla]

Yes. Nadal's 2015 level was even higher than Fed's.

of course, he had 10 years of additional practice when compared to 2005

 

[blablavla]

Yes. Nadal's 2015 level was even higher than Fed's.

And Nole that was losing to Istomin, Chung, Taro Daniel is better than 2011 Ultron, cause he had additional years of practice

 

[abmk]

not even his highest level of 2010s:

2010 AO/YEC, 2011 USO to 2012 Cincy, 17 at stages were better

 

[tennis_pro]

Yes and Djokovic is better now than in 2011.

 

[RS]

Youngdal was certainly better than old Fed without a doubt. I'd think differently if old Fed could at least defend his turf on grass.

It is going be a future thread from me.

 

[mike danny]

It is going be a future thread from me.

Glad to be of service

 

[SonnyT]

Fedfans don't see the irony in this, but! Federer didn't need to raise his game to beat Roddick, and Cilic, handily! He just had to play 7/10th, and beat them comfortably most of the time!

He did have to sustain his best for just 2 of his opponents. So I don't buy that Federer played his best in the mid teens! Why? Because he didn't have to, not against Hewitt and Nalbandian and Roddick!

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Absolutely not.

 

[blablavla]

Fedfans don't see the irony in this, but! Federer didn't need to raise his game to beat Roddick, and Cilic, handily! He just had to play 7/10th, and beat them comfortably most of the time!

He did have to sustain his best for just 2 of his opponents. So I don't buy that Federer played his best in the mid teens! Why? Because he didn't have to, not against Hewitt and Nalbandian and Roddick!

what percentage of his maximum Novak needs to beat Dimitrov, Djere and Sandgren?
lol

 

[pj80]

what percentage of his maximum Novak needs to beat Dimitrov, Djere and Sandgren?
lol

2015 Fed was superb. If not for Djoker he would win Wimbledon and USO without droping a set

 

[blablavla]

2015 Fed was superb. If not for Djoker he would win Wimbledon and USO without droping a set

which can either confirm that Fed was superb, or to confirm how weak the tour is, if only Novak was able to stop old Fed

 

[pj80]

which can either confirm that Fed was superb, or to confirm how weak the tour is, if only Novak was able to stop old Fed

oh Fed was definetly superb...didn't you watch tennis back then?

 

[blablavla]

oh Fed was definetly superb...didn't you watch tennis back then?

was he by any chance 26-28 years old then?
or there were no 24-28 years old competitors back then?

could you remind me which statement is correct

 

[pj80]

was he by any chance 26-28 years old then?
or there were no 24-28 years old competitors back then?

could you remind me which statement is correct

dude who cares how old he was? did you not see how efficient he played? Much better than when he was 26-28. You just don't want to give credit where credit is due.

 

[SonnyT]

what percentage of his maximum Novak needs to beat Dimitrov, Djere and Sandgren?
lol

He beat more than his fair share of Federer and Nadal! And he didn't get to beat the Roddicks, Piolines of the world in Slam finals!

Federer beat more than his fair share of Roddicks and Cilics in Slam finals!

 

[blablavla]

dude who cares how old he was? did you not see how efficient he played? Much better than when he was 26-28. You just don't want to give credit where credit is due.

he is only as good as his opponents allow him to look like

there are opponents out there, vs which I look GOAT like, but I'm far away from being a pro

 

[blablavla]

He beat more than his fair share of Federer and Nadal! And he didn't get to beat the Roddicks, Piolines of the world in Slam finals!

Federer beat more than his fair share of Roddicks and Cilics in Slam finals!

right, cause he lost to Roddick more often than not, when they met

by the way, who defeated Pioline in GS finals?

 

[pj80]

he is only as good as his opponents allow him to look like

there are opponents out there, vs which I look GOAT like, but I'm far away from being a pro

Yes, Roddick and Hewitt made him look GOAT like...but then other players joined the GOAT discussion.

 

[blablavla]

Yes, Roddick and Hewitt made him look GOAT like...but then other players joined the GOAT discussion.

you're cheating TT readers Nole devotee
2015 crop of players made him look like a GOAT, with Nole being his sole opposition

so what does it tell us about the strength of the field in 2015?

 

[Hitman]

Re-watched it recently. Val Kilmer should have won an Oscar for his portrayal of Doc. Don't think he was even nominated.

Absolutely.

 

[tennis_pro]

Fedfans don't see the irony in this, but! Federer didn't need to raise his game to beat Roddick, and Cilic, handily! He just had to play 7/10th, and beat them comfortably most of the time!

He did have to sustain his best for just 2 of his opponents. So I don't buy that Federer played his best in the mid teens! Why? Because he didn't have to, not against Hewitt and Nalbandian and Roddick!

Federer playing at 7/10 in the mid 00s proves nothing when it comes to his level, more about his competition if you want to make any argument

Fed's best in 2005 beats Fed's best in 2015 - end of story. In 2015 he served better and played smarter (because HE HAD TO), outside of that 2005 Fed is better in every single aspect of the game.

Anyone who claims Fed's level in 2015 beats his 2005 level clearly never saw peak Federer. He was hitting winners from every side of the court for fun, people were literally scared to play to his forehand. The guy was winning matches in the locker room, his game was so intimidating.

 

[Phoenix1983]

Pretty clear what the prevailing opinion is, OP.

 

[MrFlip]

2013 US Open vs Robredo - His peak was so high but Robredo's was Mon Olympus only for that match

 

[Sudacafan]

“I think I’m a better player now than when I was at 24 because I’ve practiced for another 10 years and I’ve got 10 years more experience,” Federer said. “Maybe I don’t have the confidence level that I had at 24 when I was winning 40 matches in a row, but I feel like I hit a bigger serve, my backhand is better, my forehand is still as good as it’s ever been, I volley better than I have in the past. I think I’ve had to adapt to a new generation of players again.” (August, 2015)


Martina Navratilova: "I don't know if I have seen a better match from Roger. He served amazingly well, was so relaxed and mixed it up so well with the serve and from the baseline."

Tim Henman: "Roger was incredible. In the context of this match, playing Andy Murray in the semi-final at Wimbledon, I think that is as good as I have ever seen Roger play.

Pat Cash: "People are surprised when I say this but Federer is a better player now than when he was racking up the titles. It's another thing if his body can last over five sets. The way that he is playing he could win the final against Novak Djokovic in straight sets."

Let it go.