Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
I used the word dalliances, basically he was partying and running through lots of women and his coaching staff were egging him on and keeping it quiet from the wife & the world.
Was it a mistake to let go of Goran?
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I used the word dalliances, basically he was partying and running through lots of women and his coaching staff were egging him on and keeping it quiet from the wife & the world.
kevaninho
Hall of Fame
Watching Goran from the players box, during tournaments, its easy to see what he brings to the table. He was very involved in Novaks matches He was probably the main motivator towards him in his time there.
I think a guy like Djokovic thrives off of that type of coaching. The same way that Boris helped him.
I think a guy like Djokovic thrives off of that type of coaching. The same way that Boris helped him.
Cupcake
Hall of Fame
What Saul said is not correct. He needs to go back and re- listen to what both Fed and Rafa said in that ad. They both said that they needed to listen to outside input, to surround themselves 'with the best people', in addition to some self-coaching.
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nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
No
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
Because he is losing matches? Or do you have some other method to detect the domestic problems?
Ah okay, THE relationship killer number one.
But then, nevertheless it’s strange that someone who doesn’t accept the common “rule” of not having sex with other women during marriage then all of a sudden accepts a “punishment” for doing so. Usually people like that don’t accept any pressure in that regard.
If true it would be a weird combination of not enough love for a wife leading to doing those things first, and yet still enough love to do anything for her not leaving later. And all that despite someone like Djokovic would easily be capable of starting another relationship with a woman who would accept an “open” relationship right from the start, so that he could carry on while still having a (constant) relationship either.
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
He certainly missed Goran this week at the USO. Had the two worst serving matches of his entire Slam career in the last two rounds and didn’t serve well either today particularly on big points. Also seemed mentally very flat all match long and maybe a round of back-and-forth insults with Goran would have been good for him emotionally if Goran had been sitting in his box today.
Why did he fire Goran and will he hire him back or is he too proud to admit a mistake?
Vajda will not answer the call.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
He should bring him back honestly if he really wants another slam wich I believe he is fully invested in still. Just a big mistake to bring in all these new people that are closer to him on a personal level but have no idea how to support him professionaly. Or at least bring in Troicki who actually has experience of being a top player and been working with him a little bit when it's been national tournaments. Goran chapter is probably closed for good as they had their incredible run but hiring Troicki and having him by his side at majors and some masters tournaments wouldn't be a bad idea to get back on track next year.
Anyway, this is maybe a few percentages of the issue, but it would help. He got his gold and probably just not there emotionally nor physically. Olympics triumph took alot out of him
Anyway, this is maybe a few percentages of the issue, but it would help. He got his gold and probably just not there emotionally nor physically. Olympics triumph took alot out of him
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jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
No, it has nothing to do with the coaching, rather it has to do with the desire to play, and the direction that desire to play is focused.
He just wasn’t really that interested in Wimbledon in U.S. Open for some bizarre reason, but you saw he wanted the Olympic gold and he made sure and win that
He just wasn’t really that interested in Wimbledon in U.S. Open for some bizarre reason, but you saw he wanted the Olympic gold and he made sure and win that
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Yes Novak knows it best. Goran would have asked him to concentrate on 52 weeks and all nole wanted was that 1 week in Olympics the most. That's why he went with all Serbian team which can't question him at all.
But now may be right time to find a good replacement coaching position.
yokied
Hall of Fame
The only sensible answer here.
messiahrobins
Legend
Zverev won OG and made USO SF as Did Nadal in 2008. Murray won the USO after he won the Olympics.
This burn out excuse is nonsense, not just for Djokovic but Alcaraz as well.
The one thing nobody wants to mention is the court speed. The USO is a proper fast court which we have not seen for maybe 20 years at a slam. Could it not be the case that Djokovic and Alcaraz just are not that good on proper fast courts and also it now exposes how laughably slow Wimbledon has become.
messiahrobins
Legend
Novak didn't get rid of Boris. Jelena did
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
N01E
Hall of Fame
Spoiler alert: they don't. Those people don't have any insider knowledge and are unable to get the right contacts or even info, so they get frustrated and start making everything up to fit their agenda instead of analyzing what they have (which tbh, is nothing).
messiahrobins
Legend
It's common Knowledge. No secret at all.
I don't have an actual witness statement if that's what you are after.
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
messiahrobins
Legend
Like commentators mentioned it on TV!
OG was bo3 vs slams bo5
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Which commentators
Zero times I have heard and I am die hard nolefam
No nolefam will support you on this we haven't heard
zagor
Bionic Poster
I think there isn't much to the Goran parting actually, just an aging athlete trying to change up something because the results are no longer there.
For Becker and Vajda though back in 2016? Yeah, I reckon (and have heard elsewhere) that it's basically everything you implied here.
onyxrose81
Hall of Fame
I don’t think Goran liked the intensity of coaching Novak much at the end. For the sake of friendship, I think they really had to part ways.
pirhaksar
Professional
This is more like it. Thing the partnership ran its course. But Goran did wonders with that serve which basically cost him this week. I doubt he will go back to Goran, but he will need someone who can help him manage his physical dimension which is the one that will start fading very quickly from here on.
messiahrobins
Legend
Most Djokovic fans i know dont like her actually.
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
Pros and cons - Goran vs Murray as coaches?
nolefam_2024
Bionic Poster
Goran was very good coach, I can even say great coach, because his mentality as a coach was as brash as Djokovic himself. He didn't find it bad to say Djokovic will win RG 20, although proven wrong in time. I think the personal friendship between them was very high so Nole could vent out if he needed to during matches.
Serve became huge weapon with Goran.
Short points became much better with Goran.
No cons at all.
Andy is yet to coach a single player so we can't say any pros and cons.
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