Was Roy Emerson the GOAT when he had the most Slams?

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  1. alfa164164

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    Was he considered greater than Laver and later Borg just because of Grand Slam count?
    And was he greater than Sampras until Sampras tied and broke his record?
    (I am aware of the amateur / pro rules during the 60s.)
     
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  2. Phil

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    No. He was considered a great player, but even with his Slam record, he wasn't considered better than Borg or Laver. He won those Slams before the open era, when Laver, Rosewell, Kramer and other greats weren't eliglbe to compete in Slam events. He often got his clock cleaned when he went up against those guys outside of Slams. And Sampras is in a totally different league, even before breaking the record.
     
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  3. SonicSpeed

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    Nah. It's not all about the slam count even if it is important. Like Phil said, you have to factor in the field of competition.
     
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    No. The cream of the crop turned pro. Emmo stayed an amateur and was unquestionably the top amateur.
     
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    Does the highest slam count constitute the GOAT? Interesting debate!
     
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    13 year bump!!!! :)
     
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  7. pame

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    Technically no, since the term "GOAT", only emerged and started to gain traction primarily through the American commentators who started counting down as Sampras neared 14 Grand Slams
     
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    I wonder whatever happened to Phil.
    Last post in 2009.

    I wonder if anyone ever died mid-post.
    Massive cardiac arrest or hit by bus.

    Probly
     
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    Fair point!
     
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  11. Incognito

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    If your male tennis idol has only 12 majors, then slam count doesn’t constitute the GOAT. However in the real world it does.:)

    Fed, 19 majors = GOAT
     
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  12. AngryBirds

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    Comparing Emerson and Sampras is like comparing an amateur player to a professional player. There's just no comparison.
     
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  13. Dan Lobb

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    I pick Emmo on clay over Pete.
     
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  14. thrust

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    True! Before Sampras, as I recall, there was little talk about slam count or GOAT. But then there were no tennis forums that I knew of-LOL!!
     
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  15. BobbyOne

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    Phil, Who is Rosewell?
     
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  16. BobbyOne

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    Experts used to discuss about the GOAT since Tilden's time.
     
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  17. thrust

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    Not true. Emmo was a great player who, if he had joined the pro tour, most likely would have improved and been close to the top pros. No doubt he was better on clay than Sampras.
     
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    Really Bobby? I think we all know who Phil meant.
     
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  19. BobbyOne

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    thrust, I know whom he meant but I "fight" against the wrong spelling of R. which is so common at tennis fans.
     
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    you do realise that post was made in 2004 ? Yes, read that again, 2004.
     
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  21. BobbyOne

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    ABMK, Okay, So Rosewall was called "Rosewall" 13 years ago, not this year. So I can accept it. By the way, Laver was then called "Lover"...
     
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    Are we playing spot the difference? I think you've won Bobby, congratulations.
     
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