DjokovicForTheWin
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Nadal is playing the best he's ever played. He can't play any better than how he's playing now. He's good enough to beat everybody else. He just can't beat Djokovic. Simple truth.
Quoted for utter truth.
Nadal is playing the best he's ever played. He can't play any better than how he's playing now. He's good enough to beat everybody else. He just can't beat Djokovic. Simple truth.
I always find these boards amusing, how quickly the top players are written off if they are not firing on all cylinders. Federer's being written off again, this time for being too old. Admittedly, he is the oldest of the top four, but he would have beaten Djokovic at the U.S if he had been mentally tougher. I don't think Federer's strongest asset is his mental strength, I believe he was that much better than the rest of the field, his mental strength was rarely challenged.
Watch out for Nadal next year because whatever anyone says, he hasn't played as well as he is capable this year. He has been struggling with his own game and it has coincided with Djokovic finally fulfilling his potential, consistantly. Djokovic definately has the game to beat Nadal, that's obvious, but anyone who thinks Nadal won't rise to this challenge and beat Djokovic next year is very mistaken. All this talk about Nadal and Uncle Toni being tactically niave is rubbish, the problem lies in the execution. Next year, you will see a big improvement in Nadal's B/h, this will allow him to stay central on the baseline, not conceding space on his forehand side which Djokovic exploits perfectly. Improving his backhand will take more pressure off his forehand too. How many times did he miss the inside out forehand against Djokovic? he felt he had to end the point quick before Djokovic directed the rally to his backhand again. Nadal gambling? That's not his game. Nadal didn't serve that well, that will improve next year. Djokovic didn't serve well either because of his back strain. 2012 is going to be a very interesting year of tennis, Federer is definately in the mix, and Murray will step up too, but watch out for NADAL!!
History shows that once a player has played 600 matches-a figure that Nadal reached earlier this year-improvement is pretty much out of the question, it's a matter of how quickly will he decline-all the more given Nadal's style of play. Also, when High Ranked Player A has been dominating younger Player B, and B turns the tables, how often have you seen A re-establish their dominance? Connors vs Borg, Mcenroe, and Lendl? No. Borg vs Mac? Becker vs Agassi? No. The closest would be Mac vs Lendl, it started one sidely for Mac, then I believe Lendl turned the tables, but Mac DID re-assert himself in '84, for awhile (of course, that year included the turning point for both of the, the FO, which Mac says to this day he's not watched a tape of). But it was short lived, Mac won no more Slams after that year, and, if memory serves, lost 9 of the last 10 meetings. So, what you're suggesting isn't historically likely, though not impossible. I'm not aware of ANY Number One losing 6 straight times in a year to Number Two, let alone on 3 different surfaces, so in my mind that makes it even MORE unlikely, but, time will tell.
Interesting analysis but I disagree. I am not expecting Nadal to change his game to the point where his game changes significantly, or he makes big improvements in any areas of his game. Nadal had a good year without playing his best tennis. Forget Djokovic for a minute. Even against the rest of the field, Nadal has laboured to victories often going behind to players that he would expect to dominate. When Nadal is playing well, he keeps a good length of shot on both wings, I didn't see that much this year. Needless to say his backhand has been better in the past, he will work hard to reproduce that. There is room to improve his lefty serve out wide too. Going to be fascinating year!
Can someone explain this Cvac business to me because I dont get it?
I guess its Djokovic but what does Cvac stand for?
Confused.com!
Saying a 23 year old slam winner will never win another might be foolish. He could go the way of Roddick or Ferrero and never win another. He could win another after a few blank (and injury) years like Safin did. He might have a resurgence and win many more like Djokovic did/is doing. We don't know.Delpo never, all the others only possible.
Saying a 23 year old slam winner will never win another might be foolish. He could go the way of Roddick or Ferrero and never win another. He could win another after a few blank (and injury) years like Safin did. He might have a resurgence and win many more like Djokovic did/is doing. We don't know.
It's just a nickname I call him because it's the name if that hypobaric egg contraption he has been using to boost his rbc count.
Toppling Federer at Wimbledon and getting the world number 1 ranking were his hardest tasks. This Djokovic problem is one of his biggest challenges though, certainly. A few things have shifted this year when they play each other.
(Why will he improve? Because you say so? Then Djokovic will work on his serve and Federer will work on mental strength. See? Same game)
If you look at how Nadal has become the player he is today, it is obvious. He knew if he wanted to win on other surfaces he had to move up to the baseline, take the ball earlier/on the rise, and sometimes hit flatter. He hit flatter balls earlier in his career, mostly inside out and down the line. He may find a flat ball across court to Djokovic maybe more affective and get some half court balls to attack. Nadal has added a decent backhand slice and is now a competant volleyer too.
It's difficult to change your game midseason. To come out of your comfort zone when all is on the line is unwise and creates uncertainty. Now the majors are over, time to groove some changes, takes courage.
IMO his current Djoko problem is the biggest challenge Rafa has ever faced. (Which makes it all the more exciting to see if and when he can solve it) Beating Fed on any surface was never as daunting. On grass, Rafa had been very close to the win in 2007, so in 2008, he knew he could do it. Fed is also 5 years older than Rafa, so in that rivalry, time always worked in Rafa's favor on top of the matchup in general working well for Rafa.
Djoko is a completely different story. I think the first step for Rafa against Djoko will be to take clay back. I think he can do. I think Djoko's level is gonna drop a notch next year and I can see Rafa winning both RG and W in 2012. On hard court, it may prove to be more difficult.
Nadal will never beat Cvac again.
Djoko is a completely different story. I think the first step for Rafa against Djoko will be to take clay back. I think he can do. I think Djoko's level is gonna drop a notch next year and I can see Rafa winning both RG and W in 2012. On hard court, it may prove to be more difficult.
IMO his current Djoko problem is the biggest challenge Rafa has ever faced. (Which makes it all the more exciting to see if and when he can solve it) Beating Fed on any surface was never as daunting. On grass, Rafa had been very close to the win in 2007, so in 2008, he knew he could do it. Fed is also 5 years older than Rafa, so in that rivalry, time always worked in Rafa's favor on top of the matchup in general working well for Rafa.
Djoko is a completely different story. I think the first step for Rafa against Djoko will be to take clay back. I think he can do. I think Djoko's level is gonna drop a notch next year and I can see Rafa winning both RG and W in 2012. On hard court, it may prove to be more difficult.
Of course Djoko's level will drop. You think he's gonna have many years of winning 3 slams + 5 masters? The entire history of tennis says the odds are against it.
Nadals physique will drop more in 2012, and also he will drop even more mentally after the breadsticks Djokovic gave him in multiple GS-finals this year.
I think 2011 will be the last year for Nadal to win the WTF-which he will fail, and that will be a huge plump in his resume.
As another posters sig says "I play good January-September and after that i dont show up,no?" Huge sign of weakness.
(Damn, imagine if Nadal wins his SEVENTH Roland Garros, next year. That would be the most dominant thing we've seen since Sampras won SEVEN Wimbledons :shock![]()
Cant wait for FO 2012...maybe one of the most open in years.
Who thinks Rodge still has a chance if Nadal is not there on the second sundy?
Or Djoker? Will they be on the opposite sides? Djoker-Rodge?
faster please.
It just might be Del Potro's time now...
Imagine if Nadal wins his 2nd Aussie Open, his 7th Roland Garros, his 3rd Wimbledon and his 2nd US Open... You have to admit of anybody who can do the Calendar slam, Rafa has the best chance (unless the Djokovic confidence continues... but I think this injury may have him start to question himself)
Rafa will win 2 slams guaranteed next year but I see him going on a real tear to start off the year... Aussie, Doha, Indian Wells, Miami, Monte Carlo, Rome, Madrid, French Open, Queens and Wimbledon... Djokovic cracked under the "pressure of the streak"... did Rafa even ever acknowledge anything when he had an 81 match win streak on clay? NO, so IF Rafa figures out Djokovic this year, next year he will be unstoppable because once again he will know that "for sure, try my best" is better than anyone else's "try my best".
I see the top 10 end of 2012 as such:
1. Nadal
2. Murray
3. Djokovic
4. Tsonga
5. Federer
6. Fish
7. Ferrer
8. Roddick
9. Tomic
10. Harrison
(Del Potro is playing nowhere near the top 3 level)
Well he just did what your beloved Nadal couldn't do in 6 attempts. Beat the world #1 Novak Djokovic!!! :lol:
Djokovic even despite being the best returner in the game couldn't get a racquet on the Del Po serve. If Del Po's confidence is back and he's finally picking up his game again, then this is a sign that he will be a significant factor in 2012. Let's hope so. We need more rivalries.
And we've seen what Del Potro can do when he's on. The first man ever to smash Fedal in a Slam.
(Del Potro is playing nowhere near the top 3 level)
Imagine if Nadal wins his 2nd Aussie Open, his 7th Roland Garros, his 3rd Wimbledon and his 2nd US Open... You have to admit of anybody who can do the Calendar slam, Rafa has the best chance (unless the Djokovic confidence continues... but I think this injury may have him start to question himself)
Rafa will win 2 slams guaranteed next year but I see him going on a real tear to start off the year... Aussie, Doha, Indian Wells, Miami, Monte Carlo, Rome, Madrid, French Open, Queens and Wimbledon... Djokovic cracked under the "pressure of the streak"... did Rafa even ever acknowledge anything when he had an 81 match win streak on clay? NO, so IF Rafa figures out Djokovic this year, next year he will be unstoppable because once again he will know that "for sure, try my best" is better than anyone else's "try my best".
I see the top 10 end of 2012 as such:
1. Nadal
2. Murray
3. Djokovic
4. Tsonga
5. Federer
6. Fish
7. Ferrer
8. Roddick
9. Tomic
10. Harrison
Imagine if Nadal wins his 2nd Aussie Open, his 7th Roland Garros, his 3rd Wimbledon and his 2nd US Open... You have to admit of anybody who can do the Calendar slam, Rafa has the best chance (unless the Djokovic confidence continues... but I think this injury may have him start to question himself)
Rafa will win 2 slams guaranteed next year but I see him going on a real tear to start off the year... Aussie, Doha, Indian Wells, Miami, Monte Carlo, Rome, Madrid, French Open, Queens and Wimbledon... Djokovic cracked under the "pressure of the streak"... did Rafa even ever acknowledge anything when he had an 81 match win streak on clay? NO, so IF Rafa figures out Djokovic this year, next year he will be unstoppable because once again he will know that "for sure, try my best" is better than anyone else's "try my best".
I see the top 10 end of 2012 as such:
1. Nadal
2. Murray
3. Djokovic
4. Tsonga
5. Federer
6. Fish
7. Ferrer
8. Roddick
9. Tomic
10. Harrison
It just might be Del Potro's time now...
Nope,
Delpo never again, on any major.
Imagine if Nadal wins his 2nd Aussie Open, his 7th Roland Garros, his 3rd Wimbledon and his 2nd US Open... You have to admit of anybody who can do the Calendar slam, Rafa has the best chance (unless the Djokovic confidence continues... but I think this injury may have him start to question himself)
Rafa will win 2 slams guaranteed next year but I see him going on a real tear to start off the year... Aussie, Doha, Indian Wells, Miami, Monte Carlo, Rome, Madrid, French Open, Queens and Wimbledon... Djokovic cracked under the "pressure of the streak"... did Rafa even ever acknowledge anything when he had an 81 match win streak on clay? NO, so IF Rafa figures out Djokovic this year, next year he will be unstoppable because once again he will know that "for sure, try my best" is better than anyone else's "try my best".
I see the top 10 end of 2012 as such:
1. Nadal
2. Murray
3. Djokovic
4. Tsonga
5. Federer
6. Fish
7. Ferrer
8. Roddick
9. Tomic
10. Harrison
Imagine if Nadal wins his 2nd Aussie Open, his 7th Roland Garros, his 3rd Wimbledon and his 2nd US Open... You have to admit of anybody who can do the Calendar slam, Rafa has the best chance (unless the Djokovic confidence continues... but I think this injury may have him start to question himself)
Rafa will win 2 slams guaranteed next year but I see him going on a real tear to start off the year... Aussie, Doha, Indian Wells, Miami, Monte Carlo, Rome, Madrid, French Open, Queens and Wimbledon... Djokovic cracked under the "pressure of the streak"... did Rafa even ever acknowledge anything when he had an 81 match win streak on clay? NO, so IF Rafa figures out Djokovic this year, next year he will be unstoppable because once again he will know that "for sure, try my best" is better than anyone else's "try my best".
I see the top 10 end of 2012 as such:
1. Nadal
2. Murray
3. Djokovic
4. Tsonga
5. Federer
6. Fish
7. Ferrer
8. Roddick
9. Tomic
10. Harrison
He'll be in his eighth consecutive year of winning majors, a year that has seen greats like Federer, Sampras, and (most relevantly) Borg win only a single major, followed by a year in which they produced a goose egg in the Slam events or retired.
This. During their eighth consecutive year of winning majors, Borg won only RG, Sampras won Wimbledon and Federer won the AO. Don't expect Nadal to win more than 1 major next year.
Nole ought to win 2 majors. Not even Federer followed his first year winning 3 majors(2004) with another year where he won 3 majors, he won 2 in 2005.
Who will win the other major is the enigma. Federer? Del Potro? Murray?
Nadal will win zero slams next year. Not even the one you are suggesting. I have said a million times on here that he is done winning slams. He will not win anymore.
Nadal will win zero slams next year. Not even the one you are suggesting. I have said a million times on here that he is done winning slams. He will not win anymore.
And because you said it, then we should believe it will happen.... Ahhh, stupidity in this forum astounds me.
No. I was just stating the obvious,though. Do you honestly believe he is going to win anymore slams? With Cvac right there in the final each time should Nadal even get there? No way.
:lol:
Some real gems in this one. Rafa's game has marginally declined and he's gotten demolished by Djokovic - and suddenly he's the favorite to win the Grand Slam? :lol: I have literally no idea where this optimism is coming from. You and the horde of *******s talk of "well, what if Djokovic is injured/can't maintain his form?" Well, what if Nadal can't maintain his form? He'll be in his eighth consecutive year of winning majors, a year that has seen greats like Federer, Sampras, and (most relevantly) Borg win only a single major, followed by a year in which they produced a goose egg in the Slam events or retired. Do you honestly think he'll be reaching as many finals next year as he did this year? I don't.
And Ryan Harrison...top 10...
:lol: