Watch Out For New Rafa Next Year!!!!

Rafa maintains his form that's why he has many more majors than Djokovic. If Djokovic fades in 2012 and loses matches because he is injured, I don't think too many people will be suprised. As for looking back at past major winners like Federer, Sampras and Borg, that's a very weak arguement. Some people look back in history, find a few coincidences and think they can predict the future? Surely there are so many factors that none of the top players have any control over, that can contribute to how the majors are won.

How is it a weak "arguement"? The longest streak of consecutively winning at least one major is eight years, jointly held by three of the greatest champions of the game - Federer, Sampras, and Borg. Borg's case is particularly relevant because he won his first majors at an early age (as Rafa did) and stopped winning them shortly after his 25th birthday.

History is history for a reason.
 
Playing good for 8 months when the tennis calender is 10 and a half months long is not exactly something to be ashamed of. And in those last months, Nadal enters a smaller tourney(whether it is bangkok/china open/tokio, you name it), the remaining MS(Shanghai,Paris) and WTF. So basically another 4 tourneys, not even a third of his schedule. And I'd hardly call making a couple of WTF(most important tournament in that period when Nadal doesn't show up) semifinal(2006,2007) and a final(2010), not showing up. And Rafa couldn't even enter in 2005 and 2008 due to injuries, injuries he picked up in that January-September period you speak of.

Rafa always shows up. He shows up so much, goes deep into almost every tournament he enters, and is consequently exhausted by September.
 
Quite frankly, before going on about next year, there is this year to finish. Hopefully, he finishes well. And hopefully, his on year, off year works next year.
 
I dont think he'll come out firing at the Australian but look for him to pick it up at the American hard courts and then cruising on clay as always. I think next year after the French he's gunna be at his best and will be able to compete with djoko at a higher level if not beat him
 
How is it a weak "arguement"? The longest streak of consecutively winning at least one major is eight years, jointly held by three of the greatest champions of the game - Federer, Sampras, and Borg. Borg's case is particularly relevant because he won his first majors at an early age (as Rafa did) and stopped winning them shortly after his 25th birthday.

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Are you suggesting that because the three you mentioned couldn't win atleast one major in nine consecutive years that nobody in the future will beable to achieve this?
 
How is it a weak "arguement"? The longest streak of consecutively winning at least one major is eight years, jointly held by three of the greatest champions of the game - Federer, Sampras, and Borg. Borg's case is particularly relevant because he won his first majors at an early age (as Rafa did) and stopped winning them shortly after his 25th birthday.

History is history for a reason.

Are you suggesting that because the three you mentioned couldn't win atleast one major in nine consecutive years that nobody in the future will beable to achieve this?

It's not impossible. But history suggests it won't.
 
It's not impossible. But history suggests it won't.

It won't be easy, but history also suggests that records and streaks will eventually be broken. When Sampras won his first major and then struggled for a while to win another, nobody would have dreamt that he would have such a amazing career. Same for Federer. I'm sure the biggest Djokovic fans, if the're honest, would never have dreamt that he would have such an unbelieveable year.
 
Most likely since there is nobody good enough to beat him.

"Most likely" is not an absolute. The guy you call Cvac just loss to Delpo. But you are making absolute statements that "Nadal will not win anymore GS". That is just full of BS. It's more wishful thinking more than anything. I'm not saying he will either because we do not know what's to come. Everyone might be dead tomorrow. But making absolute statements like what you're saying is moronic.
 
What I see is that when Nadal gets bullied/loses confidence, he sinks further and further behind the baseline and plays the same claycourt tennis he was playing when he was a teen. You can't get away with that on fast hardcourts, at least not in the later rounds of a major.

Nadal is fully capable of coming back strong. He had a good year, but not up to his full potential. Often he just looked bad, like against Fish in Cincy. He should not have looked that weak so close to the US Open against a guy he generally owns.
 
If Federer,with his easy on the body style of play could not win majors for more than 8 years straight,Nadal sure as hell won't. Some people really are wishful thinkers around here. The delusion is getting really thick as well.
 
If Federer,with his easy on the body style of play could not win majors for more than 8 years straight,Nadal sure as hell won't. Some people really are wishful thinkers around here. The delusion is getting really thick as well.

All Rafa needs to do to break the streak is win two slams over the next two years. It's difficult, but certainly not unthinkable.
 
Well he just did what your beloved Nadal couldn't do in 6 attempts. Beat the world #1 Novak Djokovic!!! :lol:
Djokovic even despite being the best returner in the game couldn't get a racquet on the Del Po serve. If Del Po's confidence is back and he's finally picking up his game again, then this is a sign that he will be a significant factor in 2012. Let's hope so. We need more rivalries. :)
And we've seen what Del Potro can do when he's on. The first man ever to smash Fedal in a Slam.

(The bolded statement really defines you as a poster. Del Potro won A SET vs Djokovic, something Nadal did at US Open, Wimbledon, Miami and Indian Wells. And at Wimbledon, Nadal won a 6-1 set)
 
Especially considering he has such a huge chance at Roland Garros and SW19.


He does not have a chance at either one of those slams next year with the way he has been playing. Especially RG,where he struggled this year from start to finish,and never should have even won. He owes Roger the biggest thank you of his life for winning that slam for him. He was not about to even come close to winning it if Roger hadn't done the dirty work for him by taking out Cvac. Roger missed a golden opportunity to beat Nadal there this year,and probably would have if he would have kept his level from te first set. Nadal really had no business winning that slam to be honest.

And do you really think he will be able to beat Cvac at RG should he even make the final there next year? I highly doubt it.
 
You're right. How dare I give a 6time FO champ and a 2 time Wimbledon winner/3x finalist a chance at those slams. Silly me.

"he has such a huge chance" is a bit different from giving someone a chance:) I'd give him 7:1 odds of winning Wimbi and 5:1 in winning the French at the moment.. thus the "LOL:)))"
 
He does not have a chance at either one of those slams next year with the way he has been playing. Especially RG,where he struggled this year from start to finish,and never should have even won. He owes Roger the biggest thank you of his life for winning that slam for him. He was not about to even come close to winning it if Roger hadn't done the dirty work for him by taking out Cvac. Roger missed a golden opportunity to beat Nadal there this year,and probably would have if he would have kept his level from te first set. Nadal really had no business winning that slam to be honest.

And do you really think he will be able to beat Cvac at RG should he even make the final there next year? I highly doubt it.

"he has such a huge chance" is a bit different from giving someone a chance:) I'd give him 7:1 odds of winning Wimbi and 5:1 in winning the French at the moment.. thus the "LOL:)))"

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With Novak in the final, you can decrease the odds even further:) The odds I gave were with Novak likely in the final as I feel Rafa's game will dip slowly this year. Rafa runs on confidence, take away all his clay court Masters shields next year and he'll be distracted mentally. Put him in the final and i'd eliminate his chances all together esp. on those two surfaces. His best chance against the serb are on a hard court that was my point and the point you still fail to understand:)
 
With Novak in the final, you can decrease the odds even further:) The odds I gave were with Novak likely in the final as I feel Rafa's game will dip slowly this year. Rafa runs on confidence, take away all his clay court Masters shields next year and he'll be distracted mentally. Put him in the final and i'd eliminate his chances all together esp. on those two surfaces. His best chance against the serb are on a hard court that was my point and the point you still fail to understand:)

Lol you guys are entertaining I love it! After a long day I can always get on here and laugh at something. Lulz, as if anything you say will matter in real life. Rafa has a good chance to win both slams whether you like it or not.
 
Lol you guys are entertaining I love it! After a long day I can always get on here and laugh at something. Lulz, as if anything you say will matter in real life. Rafa has a good chance to win both slams whether you like it or not.

Nadal definitely has a good chance to win any Slam. He's the world #2 so naturally he's the second favourite to win after the world #1.:)
Federer being third favourite.
 
Nadal definitely has a good chance to win any Slam. He's the world #2 so naturally he's the second favourite to win after the world #1.:)
Federer being third favourite.

But didn't you know that Rafa is done winning slams? He's never ever gonna win one again!! (sarcasm - for those who won't get it).

There are plenty of arguments here where people who keep referring to how bad Rafa has played lately, or how well Djoko has. To take no credit away from Djoko, do they really believe that either player is going to continue playing the exact same way for the rest of their lives?:?
 
But didn't you know that Rafa is done winning slams? He's never ever gonna win one again!! (sarcasm - for those who won't get it).

There are plenty of arguments here where people who keep referring to how bad Rafa has played lately, or how well Djoko has. To take no credit away from Djoko, do they really believe that either player is going to continue playing the exact same way for the rest of their lives?:?

Well everything eventually comes to an end. Nadal will eventually no longer be able to win Roland Garros. Djokovic will eventually no longer be able to win a Slam, etc. Heck we still won't bet our very lives that Federer will not win another Slam. Anybody who says he won't, I bet they will not swear it on their mother's life.:lol:
All we can do really is just enjoy tennis day to day and discuss it on here.:)
 
Is Hafa coming back with new body parts or what ? While he's at it, I think he should have a new head that looks like Murray's handsome visage.
 
But didn't you know that Rafa is done winning slams? He's never ever gonna win one again!! (sarcasm - for those who won't get it).

There are plenty of arguments here where people who keep referring to how bad Rafa has played lately, or how well Djoko has. To take no credit away from Djoko, do they really believe that either player is going to continue playing the exact same way for the rest of their lives?:?

Yes, we believe that. Because our resident fortune teller by the name of Clarky2000, through his/her crystal ball made from Moon rocks has said so.
Hail to her powers !!!:twisted::twisted::twisted:
 
Lol you guys are entertaining I love it! After a long day I can always get on here and laugh at something. Lulz, as if anything you say will matter in real life. Rafa has a good chance to win both slams whether you like it or not.

You forgot to include the words "...as long as he doesn't have to play Nole," in your final sentence, didn't you?
 
You forgot to include the words "...as long as he doesn't have to play Nole," in your final sentence, didn't you?

The difference between Fedfans and *******s is this... We as Fedfans do not accept anyone beating the GOAT and welcome anyone to step up to play our guy, the *******s of late have stuck to their guy knowing very well their guy has no hope in hell to beat another and have accepted the fact. Their even asking/praying for that same guy to not get in Rafa's way:) As Fed fans we have never and never will drop that low:)
 
The difference between Fedfans and *******s is this... We as Fedfans do not accept anyone beating the GOAT and welcome anyone to step up to play our guy, the *******s of late have stuck to their guy knowing very well their guy has no hope in hell to beat another and have accepted the fact. Their even asking/praying for that same guy to not get in Rafa's way:) As Fed fans we have never and never will drop that low:)

Really? You missed the dozen, Federer needs to tank-threads? Tank to avoid Novak, tank to avoid Rafa. I've never seen a poster outside of Clarky and TF3 blatantly say they want Nadal to lose a match to avoid facing someone.
 
Rafa is gonna revolutionise the game next year, adding uber spin and power to his strokes and his sevrve will be about 175mph.

Ladies, gents, trolls and ****s, introducing the 2012 Nadal's equpitment upgrade. Its perfectly legal and no more need for the juice.








Lets see Djokovic deal with this bad boy.

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Only jokin folks, anyone saying Rafa is done is dumb though!
 
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Ive heard Nadal say there was some dissention in the Nadal camp and he is going to try to get back to what was working in 2010 ( big serving, Improve on the BH, play more strike first tennis). Not sure why resorted back to his almost 05-06 style of play considering the mileage. But he does have to get back offset all the mileage with more aggressive tennis for sure and then I think he will be ok. I think he can take 2-3 slams next year if he gets focused and prepares
 
Rafa is gonna revolutionise the game next year, adding uber spin and power to his strokes and his sevrve will be about 175mph.

Ladies, gents, trolls and ****s, introducing the 2012 Nadal's equpitment upgrade. Its perfectly legal and no more need for the juice.








Lets see Djokovic deal with this bad boy.

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Only jokin folks, anyone saying Rafa is done is dumb though!

lol, lets see what the djoker can bring to deal with this one. Seems right out of the Terminator movie.
 
Rafa is gonna revolutionise the game next year, adding uber spin and power to his strokes and his sevrve will be about 175mph.

Ladies, gents, trolls and ****s, introducing the 2012 Nadal's equpitment upgrade. Its perfectly legal and no more need for the juice.








Lets see Djokovic deal with this bad boy.

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Only jokin folks, anyone saying Rafa is done is dumb though!


Hopefully this is hotplate-burn resistant
 
Well at least you won't be seeing Nadal crying on Centre Court for getting whomped on by Djokovic.


Nole's level will go down next year. Im not concerned about that. Rafa just has to lighten his schedule up (he shouldnt complain about the schedule when he has played more matches then anyone this year. You can't have your cake and eat it too), hes going to need to find his 2010 serve again, work on the BH, work on striking first and and move in closer to the baseline, work on the ROS and all is well.

Definitely should have 2 slams anyways next year if he does these things.
 
Rafas trouble with Novak doesn't have anything to do with scheduling. He can't hurt Novak. Novak is a bad matchup for Nadal like Nadal is a bad matchup for Federer.

I don't see it changing either........ever.
 
Well at least you won't be seeing Nadal crying on Centre Court for getting whomped on by Djokovic.


Nole's level will go down next year. Im not concerned about that. Rafa just has to lighten his schedule up (he shouldnt complain about the schedule when he has played more matches then anyone this year. You can't have your cake and eat it too), hes going to need to find his 2010 serve again, work on the BH, work on striking first and and move in closer to the baseline, work on the ROS and all is well.

Definitely should have 2 slams anyways next year if he does these things.

Legit point about Rafa not crying. But we will see what happens if the beatings continue next in slam finals.

Yes, Nole will find it hard to repeat for sure. But Rafa lighten up his schedule? That will NEVER happen, he has learned the hard way that he can't play everything, with all his injuries etc, but he still plays everything anyway. It is who he is.

Find that 2010 serve that appeared for two weeks. Well, he served incredibly well in that Wimbledon final, look at the first set stats, and he lost it. But he can work on his backhand, Djoker really abuses that side of his, and he needs to make it more solid. I agree with that. His ROS is still pretty darn good.
 
I find it funny that somehow Djokovic is somehow gonna go through this drastic decline in 2012 and Nadal is not :roll:.

If you think Djokovic going 6-0 against Nadal is temporary you're in for a huge awakening in 2012.
 
Well at least you won't be seeing Nadal crying on Centre Court for getting whomped on by Djokovic.


Nole's level will go down next year. Im not concerned about that. Rafa just has to lighten his schedule up (he shouldnt complain about the schedule when he has played more matches then anyone this year. You can't have your cake and eat it too), hes going to need to find his 2010 serve again, work on the BH, work on striking first and and move in closer to the baseline, work on the ROS and all is well.

Definitely should have 2 slams anyways next year if he does these things.

Not only will Rafa magically fix all those issues, but he will also grow 4 inches, start serving bombs like Isner and hit rockets through the court like Del Potro.
 
Its not like Djokovic has troubled Nadal his entire career. 2011 was just ONE YEAR last I checked. Nadal's confidence was low, his level dropped from 2010 a bit, he had poor gameplanning against Nole etc. . Just because it happened this year, doesn't mean things can't change next year. Nadal has to work on a few things and Im quite certain he will. Nor can Djokovic keep up this level either. Its a peak but peaks don't last long.
 
Its not like Djokovic has troubled Nadal his entire career. 2011 was just ONE YEAR last I checked. Nadal's confidence was low, his level dropped from 2010 a bit, he had poor gameplanning against Nole etc. . Just because it happened this year, doesn't mean things can't change next year. Nadal has to work on a few things and Im quite certain he will. Nor can Djokovic keep up this level either. Its a peak but peaks don't last long.


This whole post sounds like what Fed fans said about Nadal way back when. That match-up has not changed,and neither will the Cvac-Nadal match-up.
 
This whole post sounds like what Fed fans said about Nadal way back when. That match-up has not changed,and neither will the Cvac-Nadal match-up.

What makes you so sure? Nadal troubled Fed since Day 1. It wasn't until this year did Nole begin getting some serious headway against Nadal.. That can change though. 2012 is a whole new year. If it continues on then, I think Nadal's credibility gets a blown a bit. Just as it did Roger's.
 
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