SempreSami
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Didn't a fossilised Jimmy Connors have a run at the US Open.
These things can happen in a fair number of sports.
These things can happen in a fair number of sports.
Not professional, Lucky, but organized.Huh? Where did you play keeper?
By your definition, track and field are not sports.IMO the definition of sport would include: some sort of scoring, some sort of offense vs defense and some sort of physical activity.
"Smoking golfer?"so if your pulling for a 59 yr old man, would you also pull for an overweight, cigarette smoking golfer?
DO ENOUGH OF THIS:
YOU WILL END UP LOOKING LIKE THIS:
You will probably encounter a lot less resistance and have fewer communication problems if you throw out your incorrect opinions about words and go by the actual consensus, dictionary definitions of words.
It makes a lot more sense to accept that your operative definition of "sport" is in fact incorrect and learn the correct one than it does to continue ranting.
It's just a word. There's nothing wrong with thinking golf is a crappy sport.
couldn't resist,
so according to your definition,
track shouldn't be a sport either.
she won a mixed doubles title at the US Open not too long ago, (2 years ago maybe?)
just curious, do you consider baseball a sport? As far as "sports" go, it's not that physical.
It seems like your arguement is that it's not a sport if you can't play defense, do I understand that correctly? Is track a sport? cycling? Nascar? (I personally hate nascar and don't consider it a sport, but just curious as to your opinion)
"Smoking golfer?"
Ok, fair enough. Now could you please ask your "golf is not a sport" amigo Azzurri this question:
Azzurri: love the Pete Sampras avatar--now, could you please tell your fraternally-minded friend jgn1013 exactly what the heck Pistol Pete is holding in his left hand and what he's doing with that "thing?" Thx.
jgn1013: it was a known fact that Yannick Noah (and other tennis pros) smoked cigarettes. It was later revealed by Yannick that he on occassion smoked some 'buds' prior to playing matches. And Suzanne "Le Grand Nose" Lenglen wasn't above taking a snort of brandy during changeovers. You can say: "that was then, this is now" all you want but the simple fact remains: those great French Open CHAMPIONS are inextricably tied to the great "sport" we know as tennis.
p.s.: and to the poster who said that golf's not a sport based on the "fact" that you can play it hammered: you could play tennis 'hammered' as well but you'll play it horribly, just like you would golf, meaning:
DO ENOUGH OF THIS:
YOU WILL END UP LOOKING LIKE THIS:
track is a a bit tricky I guess. But in track events you do race against someone and they can directly affect you (like 3 and 5 K runs). But track takes endurance, strength and other "athletic" skills...unlike golf/fishing/darts/chess, etc.
Azzurri (again, very nice "Pistol Pete" avatar); I do like it; I was playfully running with jgn1013's "smoking" angle...meaning that both Angel and Pete were/are in pubic exposing themselves as 'smokers'.....along with Yannick and Suzanne....granted in an over-the-top fashion.dedan..I may be misunderstanding your question..are you talking about the pic above? That is Angel Cabrera, not Petey.
really? so you provide a definition based on someone else's opinion on what a sport is? ok...whatever.
DEFINITION OF SPORT: Anything I play
WHAT IS NOT A SPORT: Anything I don't play, don't play well, don't enjoy playing, or don't enjoy watching
Tennis is not a sport because a 35yo Agassi could compete with the best in the world. There is no way a 35yo track and field runner would ever be able to compete at the olympics at 35yo.. That means tennis is not a sport.
id bet youve used the dictionary on more then one occasion and never questioned how a word has been defined. Considering how wide spread and popular the dictionary is, its use in academia etc, it has merit. The dictionary represents the widely accepted view of what words mean
the for and against can be argued all day long since its only ever based on opinion, to that end, its almost pointless
Tennis is not a sport because a 35yo Agassi could compete with the best in the world. There is no way a 35yo track and field runner would ever be able to compete at the olympics at 35yo.. That means tennis is not a sport.
I'm thinking with Azzuri, he's definately in the don't play well camp..
again, clueless as always. I suck at all sports, how bad I suck does not make it a sport or not a sport.
35 is a bit different than 59.
There have been NHL players over 45.
FALSE
Chris Chelios - Detroit Red Wings?
You have admited in the past you suck at golf more than tennis.. Why Bs? And you really tried to get good at golf in the past, but gave it up..
Gordie Howe played in the NHL at age 51 or 52 in 1980.
And it wasn't a one-game novelty act - he played the entire season, and previous to that, had played 31 consecutive seasons in either the NHL, or the WHA (a league set up to rival the NHL). He played 25 seasons in the NHL, and 6 in the WHA.
you still miss the point. Watson should have won a MAJOR. Gordie Howe "playing" at 51 is not the same. If Gordie had come in close second for the Hart Trophy or won the MVP in the Stanley Cup then it would be the same.
again...clueless.:roll:
Clueless? YOU are the one that started this thread. YOU are the one who is in every golf is not a sport thread crying like a girl all day. YOU are the one who tried VERY hard to get good at golf, spent lots of money on clubs etc etc to only quite playing because you where no good, at said heck with it, it's not even a sport anyway. Sound about right?
Winning a Major is absolutely not the equivalent of winning the Hart Trophy.
Come back with that argument when Watson is ranked #1 in the world.
Tom Watson is currently #105 and that will likely be dropping right back down again.
Gordie put up 96 points in pro hockey when he was 50 years old.
You can play tennis hammered off your ass, you just won't be very good. Trust me, I've tried. Same with golf. You can (most recreational males do) play drunk, but it usually doesn't end up well. Golf is a sport, or a recreation, it just depends on HOW one plays. Professional golfers do not drink while they play (save maybe Daly, but he doesn't count). Neither do professional tennis players, or any professional athletes that I know of. This was not an intelligent comment.Any game you can play hammered off your ass is not a sport.
Gordie is an exception, JUST LIKE WATSON IS AN EXCEPTION. He is not consistently at the top of the leaderboard, and neither are ANY players over the age of 50. Watson is NOT among his best in his 50's. He had ONE good tournament at a course that suits his game perfectly. He even said himself he would not be able to play the Masters because the course doesn't fit him. I doubt he'd make the cut there.that is your opinion. Gordie is an exception. How many other athletes competed and was amongt the best in their 50's?? the only "sport" that allows this is golf and that is why I don't consider it a sport.
you know, I am giving reasons why i don't think golf is a sport, but you think it is because its in a definition that a huge % of the population disagree with. Even Bryant Gumbel made a point in the end of his Real Sports show. While he seemd to think golf is a sport, it was more about his similiar age with Watson and almost winning a major than anything else.
I played golf and I don't consider it a sport.
Gordie is an exception, JUST LIKE WATSON IS AN EXCEPTION. He is not consistently at the top of the leaderboard, and neither are ANY players over the age of 50. Watson is NOT among his best in his 50's. He had ONE good tournament at a course that suits his game perfectly. He even said himself he would not be able to play the Masters because the course doesn't fit him. I doubt he'd make the cut there.
You're giving reasons why you don't think golf is a sport, but pretty much all of them are either illogical, or can apply to most any other sports.
Dumb.
You can play tennis hammered off your ass, you just won't be very good. Trust me, I've tried. Same with golf. You can (most recreational males do) play drunk, but it usually doesn't end up well. Golf is a sport, or a recreation, it just depends on HOW one plays. Professional golfers do not drink while they play (save maybe Daly, but he doesn't count). Neither do professional tennis players, or any professional athletes that I know of. This was not an intelligent comment.
that is your opinion.
Gordie is an exception. How many other athletes competed and was amongt the best in their 50's??
I played golf and I don't consider it a sport.
Now you're just trying to pick arguments. There is no way this can make sense, even in your head.LOL..you must have missed something. The prior post noted that Howe scored 96 points at the age of 51...that is incredible...But how clueless are you? You stated it well...Watson is NOT among the best in his 50's and he had ONE good tourney...that is why golf is not a true sport. If it were, watson would not even have competed...what is it you don't get?
Way to address the comment. Calling me a liar. I'll go cry in my corner.neither is yours and I think you are a liar. Lots of people play with beers in them on the golf course..its basically normal. But in tennis??? If you played "drunk" then that is not normal. Who could possibly run around drunk? You can't even walk straight drunk, but I guess you are special; you can play tennis drunk. Good for you. Intelligent??? Not you.