Wawrinka done in 2020?

Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
Wawrinka at his best is easily one of the most entertaining players to watch. His backhand is beautiful and he goes for everything which is great to watch in an era of grinders/pushers. He will always be remembered for stepping up and bullying a peak Djokovic with brute power and will.
 

titoelcolombiano

Hall of Fame
If Fed had Nadal's USO draw at Wimby, he would have won a slam. He only needs the same luck as Nadal gets usually, for once.
And if Nadal was at the ripe age of 23 - 26 between 2003 and 2007 he'd have won 12 slams also.

P.S. Med would have wiped the floor with Fed in the US Open final.
 

titoelcolombiano

Hall of Fame
Nadal wouldn't have YE#1 if it wasn't for Fed. Djokovic would have went on to clinch it if Fed hadn't stopped him. That's fine by me. It's not like he's ever going to catch Fed in weeks since he's two years behind lol.
I'm sorry to inform you but Rafa earnt # 1 on his own. No one else put up these numbers

2 slam wins
1 slam final
1 slam semi
2 M1000

In terms of Djoker, even if he beat Fed in the semi, he was in no kind of form that would see him beating Tsitsipas which would also have resulted in Rafa at YE # 1. The whole season doesn't hinge on one match as you suggest.
 

Rosstour

Hall of Fame
I mean honestly his best days are probably behind him, even with as hard as he has worked to get back to being a semi contender. And his career has exceeded all expectations. If you told anyone he would be a 3 slam Champion 6 years ago you would be laughed off the face of the earth.
Agreed, he is simply following a normal career track for any great player not named Fedalovic. He took it to those guys and won (well, Rafa and Novak anyway). He has nothing left to prove.
 

wangs78

Hall of Fame
Stan has 3 Slams. Unless he thinks he can contend for more there is absolutely no reason not to retire. He does not have Roger’s devoted fan base. And he is unmarried and probably wants to settle down and start a new family. Not everyone can be like Roger and be paid tons of sponsor money, appearance fees and be able to bring his big family in tow as he travels the world on tour. So if Stan wants to give it one more go before hanging it up, I think is entitled to it.
 

Mike Sams

Legend
Stan has 3 Slams. Unless he thinks he can contend for more there is absolutely no reason not to retire. He does not have Roger’s devoted fan base. And he is unmarried and probably wants to settle down and start a new family. Not everyone can be like Roger and be paid tons of sponsor money, appearance fees and be able to bring his big family in tow as he travels the world on tour. So if Stan wants to give it one more go before hanging it up, I think is entitled to it.
Stan The Man is doing well for himself in terms of endorsements. He makes around $12 mill per year just from his sponsors, with Yonex being his biggest at $5 mill per year.
 
35 is an ideal retirement age to be honest.
He achieved more than his expectations I guess so he won't regret leaving.
I think many 30+ players will retire in the next couple years
 

PeoplesChamp

Professional
I'm sorry to inform you but Rafa earnt # 1 on his own. No one else put up these numbers

2 slam wins
1 slam final
1 slam semi
2 M1000

In terms of Djoker, even if he beat Fed in the semi, he was in no kind of form that would see him beating Tsitsipas which would also have resulted in Rafa at YE # 1. The whole season doesn't hinge on one match as you suggest.
Let's simplify this. Did Nadal clinch #1 when Federer beat Djokovic? Yes.

You are nuts if you think Tsitsipas is ever a favorite against Djokovic. I don't care how the matches against Federer and Thiem turned out. Federer blew a bunch of BP and Thiem went on a mental walkabout in the 2nd set. Djokovic would have most likely won the WTF if Federer hadn't beat him. Tsitsipas is overrated as hell.
 

BGod

Legend
The double knee surgery meant 1 lost year. He made two Slam Quarters last year but going on 35.

So yeah, unless he wins a Slam he might get greedy for 2021.
 

titoelcolombiano

Hall of Fame
Let's simplify this. Did Nadal clinch #1 when Federer beat Djokovic? Yes.

You are nuts if you think Tsitsipas is ever a favorite against Djokovic. I don't care how the matches against Federer and Thiem turned out. Federer blew a bunch of BP and Thiem went on a mental walkabout in the 2nd set. Djokovic would have most likely won the WTF if Federer hadn't beat him. Tsitsipas is overrated as hell.
Let's simplify this. Did Nadal win two slams, make a slam final, made a slam semi and won two M1000? Did anyone else put up those numbers?
 

titoelcolombiano

Hall of Fame
If Fed in his 30's had Nadal's 2017-present competition, he would easily have 25 slams at least.
Nadal's main competition 2007 - present is Djoker & Fed, two of the three greatest of all time. Fed in his early 30's had Djoker & Nadal, two of the three greatest of all time. I don't see where an extra 5 slams are coming from though.
 
Nadal's main competition 2007 - present is Djoker & Fed, two of the three greatest of all time. Fed in his early 30's had Djoker & Nadal, two of the three greatest of all time. I don't see where an extra 5 slams are coming from though.
By playing 4 better points in 4 important matches
Wim 2014 F breakpoint at 4-4 fifth set
Wim 2019 F match point at 8-7 fifth set
USO 2011 SF match point at 5-3 fifth set
USO 2015 F breakpoints at 4-3 third set
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Nadal's main competition 2007 - present is Djoker & Fed, two of the three greatest of all time. Fed in his early 30's had Djoker & Nadal, two of the three greatest of all time. I don't see where an extra 5 slams are coming from though.
Because Djoker and Nadal are not as good in their 30's as they were in their primes. Fed has shown that he can handle both of their older versions a bit easier. His main problem is that he really is way too old to take advantage anymore.

Add in the inept younger guys and 5 slams would be easily coming.
 
Djokovic was pretty mediocre at this WTF. I say he goes out in the semis anyway. Especialy since wouldn't he have still played Tsitsipas? I definitely feel he loses to him the way both were playing this event.
djokovic doimnated paris and flew over berettini in london. then he lost against a goating thiem and well playing fed. his form was there. sometimes its also about the opponents in tennis,
 

titoelcolombiano

Hall of Fame
Because Djoker and Nadal are not as good in their 30's as they were in their primes. Fed has shown that he can handle both of their older versions a bit easier. His main problem is that he really is way too old to take advantage anymore.

Add in the inept younger guys and 5 slams would be easily coming.
Maybe not as good but all three are still holding down the top three rankings and other than the odd cameo are still each other's main competition.
 
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