Wayne Odesnik BANNED again for DOPING (15 year ban lol)

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http://t.co/AVm4Q2ciiD I know the ITF/ATP/USADA were target testing him, good to see they got him.

The Tennis Anti-Doping Programme (the “Programme”) and the United States Anti-Doping Agency (“USADA”) jointly announced today that Wayne Odesnik has committed a second Anti-Doping Rule Violation.

Mr Odesnik, a 29-year-old player from the USA, provided an out-of-competition urine sample to USADA on 14 December 2014, and further samples to the ITF (on behalf of the Programme) on 17 December 2014 and 12 January 2015. Those samples were sent to WADA-accredited laboratories in Salt Lake City, USA and Montreal, Canada for analysis, and were found to contain one or more of: metabolites of methenolone; metabolites of androst-(2,3)-en-17-one; and GHRP-6. All are Prohibited Substances under the 2014 and 2015 WADA List of Prohibited Substances: methenolone under section S1 (Anabolic agents); androst-(2,3)-en-17-one under section S4 (Hormone and metabolic modulators); and GHRP-6 under Section 2 (Peptide hormones, growth factors, related substances and mimetics). They are therefore also prohibited under the 2014 and 2015 versions of the Programme. Accordingly, Mr Odesnik was charged with an Anti-Doping Rule Violation under Article 2.1 of the Programme.

Mr Odesnik’s commission of an Anti-Doping Rule Violation under Article 2.1 of the Programme was confirmed, which was his second such violation, having been sanctioned in 2010 for the possession of human growth hormone. It was, therefore, determined that he is suspended from participation for a period of 15 years, back-dated to commence from 30 January 2015, and so ending at midnight on 29 January 2030. It was also determined that Mr Odesnik’s results at the Happy Valley Challenger event, Australian Open and Maui Challenger event should be disqualified, with forfeiture of the ranking points and prize money that he won at those events.

This case featured extensive cooperation between the ITF (on behalf of the Programme) and USADA, including information sharing, use of the expertise of each organisation and a consolidated approach to the results management process. These contributions are hereby recognised and held up as an example of the benefits of cooperation between Anti-Doping Organisations.

The Tennis Anti-Doping Programme is a comprehensive and internationally recognised drug-testing programme that applies to all players competing at Grand Slam tournaments and events sanctioned by the ITF, ATP and WTA. Players are tested for substances prohibited by the World Anti-Doping Agency and, upon a finding that an Anti-Doping Rule Violation has been committed, sanctions are imposed in accordance with the requirements of the Tennis Anti-Doping Programme and World Anti-Doping Code. More background information on the Programme, sanctions, tennis statistics and related information can be found at www.itftennis.com/antidoping.

USADA is a signatory to the World Anti-Doping Code and fully complies with the World Anti-Doping Code’s International Standards. USADA runs the anti-doping program including education, sample collection, results management, and drug reference resources for athletes in US Olympic, Paralympic, Pan American, and Parapan American Sport, including all Olympic sport national governing bodies, their athletes, and events throughout the year. Additionally, USADA’s commitment to clean competition and the integrity of competition also includes programs aimed at scientific research and education & outreach initiatives focused on awareness and prevention.
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Originally banned in 2010 but remember this from 2013

LONDON -- An American tennis player who served a one-year ban for possessing human growth hormone denied involvement with a Florida clinic being investigated for reportedly selling performance-enhancing drugs to Alex Rodriguez and other baseball players.

Wayne Odesnik said reports that his name had been found on handwritten records kept at the Biogenesis of America Clinic in Coral Gables, Fla., were "erroneous."

"None of that's true," Odesnik said after his five-set loss to Jimmy Wang of Taiwan at Wimbledon on Tuesday. "I don't have any connection to it."

Afterward, he was asked about the history of his drug case. He received a two-year suspension after Australian customs agents found him in possession of eight vials of HGH when trying to enter the country in 2010.

he suspension was reduced to 12 months for his cooperation with authorities investigating drug and betting in the sport.

During a contentious news conference in which he fielded repeated questions about the doping case, Odesnik said he's been drug tested frequently and never had a positive test.

"I know this year I've been tested every single month," he said. "I've had an out-of-competition test on a regular basis, blood and urine. I've done nothing wrong. I'm as clean as a whistle."

Major League Baseball is investigating Biogenesis of America and its possible links to up to 20 players, several of whom MLB is interviewing this month.

The clinic's founder, Anthony Bosch, has agreed to cooperate with MLB.

Rodriguez and more than a dozen other players have been linked to the clinic, which was accused in January by the Miami News Times of providing banned performance-enhancing drugs.

When the report came out, Rodriguez's publicist released a statement saying the "purported documents referenced in the story -- at least as they relate to Alex Rodriguez -- are not legitimate."
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He has decided to announce his retirement

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^^^I'm shocked the retirement announcement came from Miami...he's clearly living in Egypt, along the banks of the big river De Nial.
 
got lucky once, and didn't even learn...
(a bad steak again, probably ?)

by the way, having cañas as a coach... is that just a coincidence ?
 
Murray's reaction on twitter:

Andy Murray ‏@andy_murray 18m18 minutes ago

Bye bye Wayne... Good riddance
 
Idea: allow him a plea bargain with active players names who also dope. For each proven case, deduct 1 year of ban. But he'll still serve a minimum of 5 years ban. (aka give 10 names)
 
Good call by Pat Mac to give OD'nik wildcard for 2014 USO. Couldn't have gone to a more undeserving candidate.
 
In my opinion this is indirect but very strong evidence that doping, contrary to what ITF persists in saying, is epidemic and rampant on the ATP tour. That a player like Odesnik, already banned and under incredible scrutiny, would continue to dope suggests that performance enhancing drugs are required "equipment" to be competitive on the ATP tour.

This should come as no surprise. PEDs have been required for years to be competitive in cycling, at the Olympics, in European soccer, in Rugby, etc., etc. It is clearly far easier for players even with relatively limited resources, like Odesnik, to procure PEDs than it is commonly assumed. The difference between Odesnik and his higher-ranked peers could be that they a) have the resources to hear expert professionals to help them evade detection, and b) represent a conflict of interest for the ITF and the ATP Tour: to catch a top-ranked player would deal a heavy and perhaps deadly blow to the Tour itself and the entire chain of people who reap huge profits from it each year (players, tournaments, promotors, sponsors, equipment manufacturers, equipment retailers, etc., etc.)

One has to wonder if the ITF, which clearly has a conflict of interest in doping cases, isn't covering up for caught dopers by going out of their way to publicize those dopers' excuses ("I didn't know there were steroids in my vitamins!", etc.). This way, they get to say that they are following the WADA rules and thereby keep the press off their backs, but then essentially exonerate the athlete, and the tour itself, by making these excuses official. Consider ITF President Bitti's defense of Troiki: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/...-understanding-in-doping-case-serbian-player/

In this case Odesnick's denials and excuses lack credibility and plausibility because he was previously caught red-handed with Human Growth Hormone. Knowing that any excuse making wouldn't fly with the press or public this time, ITF throws him under the bus. Now they can say: "See, doping is rare in tennis, as we've said; there are only a few bad apples. We've been watching this one carefully for years and finally caught him. Despite what you like to think, we are committed to making tennis a clean sport."
 
batz said:
Murray's reaction on twitter:

Andy Murray ‏@andy_murray 18m18 minutes ago

Bye bye Wayne... Good riddance
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Love Andy's candidness :)

I remember he was mad a while back when Odesnik's ban was reduced (when he was caught with the HGH).
 
I read the decision. Odesnik tested positive on an out-of-competition sample in mid-December. He was probably in the USA on his off-season training for the Australian summer season. This almost certainly was administered by USADA, not the ITF.

If it was an ITF administered test, it probably would
1) only have the ITF as the authority named,
2) probably would not have happened in the off season. The ITF does most of it's testing in-competition. Most of the ITF's out-of-competition testing occurs just before tournaments (where the players are gathered in one place), or in October/November (when the cheats would be cycling down).

The fact that the ITF has it's name added to the decision, is clearly to save embarrassment. Odesnik has been caught twice, neither time by the organization that is responsible for catching the cheats ! Once by the USADA, and once by the Australian authorities.

ITF is not doing their job.
 
^^^

Best post.

Living up to your name yet again.



He's right.
 
I'm curious about this part of the announcement:

It was also determined that Mr Odesnik’s results at the Happy Valley Challenger event, Australian Open and Maui Challenger event should be disqualified, with forfeiture of the ranking points and prize money that he won at those events.

How would they go about compelling him to return prize money? Civil suit? What are the chances of winning such a suit?
 
Good riddance indeed.

And yes, anyone who believes that doping isn't a huge problem in tennis (like it is in any other sport generating tons of $$$$$) is highly naïeve.

This 'drama' is yet another proof.
 
What did he EAT that was Contaminated ? is he talking about Vitamins ??

If i was truly unjustly banned due to ingesting Contaminated product, i would Fight with everything i got and seek legal help with everything i got. Why is he not doing this ?
 
JSummers said:
Idea: allow him a plea bargain with active players names who also dope. For each proven case, deduct 1 year of ban. But he'll still serve a minimum of 5 years ban. (aka give 10 names)
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They did that already. Murray was mad about it and called Odesnik a rat.
 
Nostradamus said:
What did he EAT that was Contaminated ? is he talking about Vitamins ??

If i was truly unjustly banned due to ingesting Contaminated product, i would Fight with everything i got and seek legal help with everything i got. Why is he not doing this ?
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Cuz he got popped. He is just saving face in his statement. He was also named in the biogenesis doping ring in Florida.
 
Tennisknowledge99 said:
I read the decision. Odesnik tested positive on an out-of-competition sample in mid-December. He was probably in the USA on his off-season training for the Australian summer season. This almost certainly was administered by USADA, not the ITF.

If it was an ITF administered test, it probably would
1) only have the ITF as the authority named,
2) probably would not have happened in the off season. The ITF does most of it's testing in-competition. Most of the ITF's out-of-competition testing occurs just before tournaments (where the players are gathered in one place), or in October/November (when the cheats would be cycling down).

The fact that the ITF has it's name added to the decision, is clearly to save embarrassment. Odesnik has been caught twice, neither time by the organization that is responsible for catching the cheats ! Once by the USADA, and once by the Australian authorities.

ITF is not doing their job.
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100 percent on point. ITF is soft like butter on doping.
 
TheMusicLover said:
Good riddance indeed.

And yes, anyone who believes that doping isn't a huge problem in tennis (like it is in any other sport generating tons of $$$$$) is highly naïeve.

This 'drama' is yet another proof.
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I predict that after the big 3 are gone there will be a major witchhunt, if the things become too dangerous (if some people are caught there will be more).

The dark ages are coming.
 
Tennis_Hands said:
I predict that after the big 3 are gone there will be a major witchhunt, if the things become too dangerous (if some people are caught there will be more).

The dark ages are coming.
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If TPTB are already covering up, which might indeed include some (or all?) of the Big Names, the Dark Ages are already there.
I see no reason to think otherwise tbh. :(
 
It doesn't sound like he was a top 50 player anyway. Never heard of the guy. Kind of a stiff penalty. They should have just given him a couple of years.
 
Glad to see the back of him. It was always awkward when he made the main draw of a big tournament.

It's interesting to see Murray being criticised by some on twitter for being mean. Granted, some of them thought he was having a random attack on Wayne Rooney, but others seem to think other tennis players should be chilled about their peers cheating.
 
JSummers said:
Idea: allow him a plea bargain with active players names who also dope. For each proven case, deduct 1 year of ban. But he'll still serve a minimum of 5 years ban. (aka give 10 names)
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Because so many doping players made sure to tell Wayne Odesnik all of their details?
 
It's sort of sad to see how ITF is handing out such harsh penalties to a lower ranked guy in order to give the impression they're actually doing something about players doping. It's somehow never really the cash cows that get caught.

But that's the name of the game. Let's just watch our tennis in blissful ignorance, mkay?
 
AngieB said:
Andre got a pass, I wonder who from this generation got the pass and will write about it in their memoir?

#PTL #JC4Ever

#AngieB​
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Got a pass from taking meth-amphetamine.. When he was out of competition as well.

I also fail to see how this would aid a player's tennis career and I can also see why the ITF/ATP would turn a blind eye to it. It isn't the same thing as doping.
 
Tennisknowledge99 said:
I read the decision. Odesnik tested positive on an out-of-competition sample in mid-December. He was probably in the USA on his off-season training for the Australian summer season. This almost certainly was administered by USADA, not the ITF.

If it was an ITF administered test, it probably would
1) only have the ITF as the authority named,
2) probably would not have happened in the off season. The ITF does most of it's testing in-competition. Most of the ITF's out-of-competition testing occurs just before tournaments (where the players are gathered in one place), or in October/November (when the cheats would be cycling down).

The fact that the ITF has it's name added to the decision, is clearly to save embarrassment. Odesnik has been caught twice, neither time by the organization that is responsible for catching the cheats ! Once by the USADA, and once by the Australian authorities.

ITF is not doing their job.
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corners said:
In my opinion this is indirect but very strong evidence that doping, contrary to what ITF persists in saying, is epidemic and rampant on the ATP tour. That a player like Odesnik, already banned and under incredible scrutiny, would continue to dope suggests that performance enhancing drugs are required "equipment" to be competitive on the ATP tour.

This should come as no surprise. PEDs have been required for years to be competitive in cycling, at the Olympics, in European soccer, in Rugby, etc., etc. It is clearly far easier for players even with relatively limited resources, like Odesnik, to procure PEDs than it is commonly assumed. The difference between Odesnik and his higher-ranked peers could be that they a) have the resources to hear expert professionals to help them evade detection, and b) represent a conflict of interest for the ITF and the ATP Tour: to catch a top-ranked player would deal a heavy and perhaps deadly blow to the Tour itself and the entire chain of people who reap huge profits from it each year (players, tournaments, promotors, sponsors, equipment manufacturers, equipment retailers, etc., etc.)

One has to wonder if the ITF, which clearly has a conflict of interest in doping cases, isn't covering up for caught dopers by going out of their way to publicize those dopers' excuses ("I didn't know there were steroids in my vitamins!", etc.). This way, they get to say that they are following the WADA rules and thereby keep the press off their backs, but then essentially exonerate the athlete, and the tour itself, by making these excuses official. Consider ITF President Bitti's defense of Troiki: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/...-understanding-in-doping-case-serbian-player/

In this case Odesnick's denials and excuses lack credibility and plausibility because he was previously caught red-handed with Human Growth Hormone. Knowing that any excuse making wouldn't fly with the press or public this time, ITF throws him under the bus. Now they can say: "See, doping is rare in tennis, as we've said; there are only a few bad apples. We've been watching this one carefully for years and finally caught him. Despite what you like to think, we are committed to making tennis a clean sport."
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Great posts.
 
eliars said:
It's sort of sad to see how ITF is handing out such harsh penalties to a lower ranked guy in order to give the impression they're actually doing something about players doping. It's somehow never really the cash cows that get caught.
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And you're about to post your proof that 1 or more 'cash cows' are definitely using PEDs? Cool story, bro.

For once I agree with Roddick. Trade this clown to N Korea.
 
Murray told BBC Sport: "It is good for tennis that they got him off tour. It is the end of his career and he can't even come on site to events or coach. That is a good thing.

"He is a cheat and it is good for everyone in tennis he is dealt with in the right way."
 
JRAJ1988 said:
Murray told BBC Sport: "It is good for tennis that they got him off tour. It is the end of his career and he can't even come on site to events or coach. That is a good thing.

"He is a cheat and it is good for everyone in tennis he is dealt with in the right way."
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Wow.

Andy feels really strongly about this. :???:
 
Why on earth would 3 of the top 4 invite former champions like Edberg, Becker and Lendl into their camps if they are definitely doping? (If we assume that that era weren't doping which I think a lot on this board do) There's no guarantee they could keep it from them in that close quarters and I'm sure past players would have no problem dropping current players in it when they are affecting their own legacy.

Yeah sure, they're getting paid nicely to coach but it is still far too risky to think that would keep them quite. (and certainly not once the coaching job ends)
 
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West Coast Ace said:
And you're about to post your proof that 1 or more 'cash cows' are definitely using PEDs? Cool story, bro.

For once I agree with Roddick. Trade this clown to N Korea.
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What on earth are you on about?

You don't think it's within the realms of possibility that the top guys in tennis dope, when lower ranked guys such as Odesnik get caught? You don't think ITF has an economical interest in not seeing the top players get caught?

Sorry to burst your bubble, Naive Nancy.
 
What if it really was from an OTC supplement? I hope he fights for his rights because you never know with these quasi-government bodies what fraud they will commit to keep their jobs relevant.
 
sureshs said:
What if it really was from an OTC supplement? I hope he fights for his rights because you never know with these quasi-government bodies what fraud they will commit to keep their jobs relevant.
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He was caught red handed by Aussie authorities with HGH.
He was named in the biogenesis doping ring investigation in Miami. Please have some knowledge when you discuss these things.
 
So, there are a few commenters on the tennis.com story that are jumping down the throats of Murray and Roddick for daring to condemn Odesnik, citing their less than exemplary on-court behaviour as a valid reason.

Seriously.

Yeah, there's no denying that Roddick needed to shut his mouth a lot of the time and Murray's not exactly Mr. Sunshine either, but I'd take either one of those two on their worst days 100% of the time over the bullcrap that Odesnik's been nailed for. Being brats on court isn't great for the sport, but it's like 5000X better than being a cheater. (It's waaaayyyyyy better to be neither, of course).
 
eliars said:
It's sort of sad to see how ITF is handing out such harsh penalties to a lower ranked guy in order to give the impression they're actually doing something about players doping. It's somehow never really the cash cows that get caught.
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I'm afraid it's called "capitalism", in other words: money talks, and sh1t (in this particular case: full disclosure & justice for all) walks...

Not unlike the notorious case of one Mr. Armstrong in cycling. Got away with it for at least a decade, and only encountered his downfall when there eventually was no way of hiding anymore. :mad:

FD3S said:
Yeah, there's no denying that Roddick needed to shut his mouth a lot of the time and Murray's not exactly Mr. Sunshine either, but I'd take either one of those two on their worst days 100% of the time over the bullcrap that Odesnik's been nailed for. Being brats on court isn't great for the sport, but it's like 5000X better than being a cheater. (It's waaaayyyyyy better to be neither, of course).
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Yep.

Your latter remark might well be an impossible attitude for top athletes, though. ;)
 
I'm actually a bit disappointed that more players haven't said something, or have I missed it?

It's not like some other cases, where it is plausible that it was an honest mistake, in which case keeping quiet makes sense. I'm sure accidental ingestion can, and does happen, but the drugs involved are not going to be found in a mass market glucose tablet, and you don't accidentally end up with vials of HGH in your luggage.
 
*Sparkle* said:
I'm actually a bit disappointed that more players haven't said something, or have I missed it?

It's not like some other cases, where it is plausible that it was an honest mistake, in which case keeping quiet makes sense. I'm sure accidental ingestion can, and does happen, but the drugs involved are not going to be found in a mass market glucose tablet, and you don't accidentally end up with vials of HGH in your luggage.
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Murray:

"I believe two separate samples, which is two failed tests," Murray said. "So they should be treated as individual cases. They were I think quite a few weeks apart. So he clearly was taking something and trying to get an advantage. It’s good for tennis to get him off the tour and away from the tour, because we don't want that being part of the tour.

"He was given a second chance in a way. He was a cheat so it is good for everyone involved in tennis that he's been dealt with in the right way. I think [testing] is going in the right direction but I don't think it will ever be perfect."

"The anti-doping controls have got stricter over the last few years. I would say we're doing a lot more than what we were. I certainly feel I'm getting tested a lot more than what I was, many out-of-competition blood tests from the ITF and also the UK anti-doping, as well. I want to say for myself I feel like it's an inconvenience getting woken up at 6:30 in the morning, but if it gets people that are cheating out of the sport when they are doing it, then I'm all for that."

"I don't know why on earth you would do it again," Murray said after reaching the quarter-finals of the BNP Paribas Open. "The thing that's also disappointing is you hear, like, 'Oh, I have learned from my mistake, blah, blah, blah, blah.'

"It's good that he's off the tour now."

https://twitter.com/andy_murray/status/578243614091804672

Nadal:

Rafael Nadal said he doesn't know Odesnik and hasn't read about the situation, but, "obviously when that happens twice, you don't deserve to be on the tour."

Raonic:

Milos Raonic said he at one stage in 2013 he was tested 13 times in a fourth month stretch. "Half out of competition, half during tournaments," he said.

He said Odesnik is going to regret his poor decisions. "There is a price to pay. It's like the prison of sport, you know. It's hard to find even a job or anything after that in that same field," Raonic said. "So it's a price he's going to have to pay. It's unfortunate he felt he needed to do that, and it's unfair to obviously other competitors."

Federer:

"It’s good you catch guys who don't do things they shouldn't be doing. Players and athletes should know if they cheat, they get caught. That's the moral of the story here. I didn't know him at all, personally. But I'm all for a clean sport, and that's why you've got to catch those guys who don't do the things they are supposed to be doing."

Roddick:

andyroddick ✔ @andyroddick
@andrewikesports my feelings are that he's a ******bag and I hate that he has a US flag next to his name when he's cheating. Good riddance



In other words, and you can quote me on that:

Odesnik is FINNISH!
 
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