We Do Not Blame The Djoker For Not Attending Post Match Interview.

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
I agree with the first part of your post but I refuse to blame the line judge. Djoko needed to be careful and yeah the whole thing sucks immensely.
Do you play tennis. There is no way that tennis ball knocks you to the ground. Unless this old woman has some type of medical condition. In that case we have to question her fitness for the job.

Her "job" should be performed by a machine anyway as it was done at Cincy.
Machine worked perfectly.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Do you play tennis. There is no way that tennis ball knocks you to the ground. Unless this old woman has some type of medical condition. In that case we have to question her fitness for the job.
That is not the point. The point is that you are not supposed to hit balls in anger that could hit people around the court. And yeah players do it all the time anyway but if it hits someone, tough luck. I am as devastated as you are btw.
 

Subway Tennis

Hall of Fame
That is not the point. The point is that you are not supposed to hit balls in anger that could hit people around the court. And yeah players do it all the time anyway but if it hits someone, tough luck. I am as devastated as you are btw.
Agree. I am someone who thinks that at big events, the technology is now there to avoid lines judges altogether, and I would like to go this way, for a multitude of reasons that I won't go into here.

But while we have them there, all the court staff are absolutely sacrasant, and you can't intentionally direct a ball and hit them.

We all know that Djokovic did not intend to harm the lines judge, but the DQ was the right call in this situation.
 

Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
Shapovalov was 17 at the time and he immediately took responsibility. Djokovic should be ashamed of himself.
Shapovalov literally broke someones face and got off with a $7,000 fine and a DQ in a match he had already lost.

Djoko's entire career legacy is at stake in Grand Slams lol
 

a10best

Hall of Fame
There was absolutely no anger. It was completely unintentional.
Recap & context for memory: Novak had PCB serving 0-40 for set point. Novak lost 7 points in a row....
Once Novak lost 3 points in a row to deuce on PCB's service game he violently hit the ball into the sideboarding... anger mgmt issues?
Eventually Novak lost his serve, score now 6-5 PCB. hits ball towards wall. He could have tapped it onto the ground but he was in a bad mood.
He needs to own up to his mistake and accept the penalty.
 
Shapovalov literally broke someones face and got off with a $7,000 fine and a DQ in a match he had already lost.

Djoko's entire career legacy is at stake in Grand Slams lol
Yeah if he doesn't end up as The Goat, his career must have been a total failure. Actually properly reflects how you feel about "the fraud", yearning for him to be viewed as a failure once his stats are overtaken.
 

RedBeard

Rookie
Do you play tennis. There is no way that tennis ball knocks you to the ground. Unless this old woman has some type of medical condition. In that case we have to question her fitness for the job.

Her "job" should be performed by a machine anyway as it was done at Cincy.
Machine worked perfectly.
Have seen a healthy teenage junior, dropped by a similarly paced ball that he took to that exact same spot. Exact same reaction...gasping and fell to ground. It is shocking and scary to see in person.
 

BlueB

Legend
I don't blame him for leaving. Too frustrating of a situation...
However, once he settled diwn, he should hold a press conference and also get hold of the lady personally, to apologize and follow up on her condition.

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veroniquem

Bionic Poster
That is not the point. The point is that you are not supposed to hit balls in anger that could hit people around the court. And yeah players do it all the time anyway but if it hits someone, tough luck. I am as devastated as you are btw.
Never mind. I was wrong. Looked at the video and disagree that the ball was hit in anger, which changes everything in terms of the penalty to apply.
 

-NN-

G.O.A.T.
I have no choice but to blame him. He knows his obligations and that he is supposed to perform his duties but he didn't of his own volition. I don't believe he was mind-controlled or anything so have to assume that he is to blame for not attending the post-match presser. Who else could possibly be to blame? Nope, it must be the Nole - there is no other culprit.


Roger Federer can take off his white wig now. I admit it was strangely cute and he's done his work now, but it's time to get back to rehab for his knees.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
Never mind. I was wrong. Looked at the video and disagree that the ball was hit in anger, which changes everything in terms of the penalty to apply.
People are saying that if it hits the official it is automatically a DQ and that all players know this. The tournament had no discretion to continue on once she received medical treatment.

The rule is ridiculous.

There is video posted of player smashing a racket and the official narrowly dodging it.
A far more dangerous situation but yet no DQ because the official had fast reflexes.
Whatever happened to the spirit of the rule. Djoker had no bad intent here.

In other instance Serenas coach was blatantly cheating but that was just a warning.
Sometimes tennis gets blindly lost in the traditions and loses common sense perspective. There should always be discretion for tournament to carry on.
 
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veroniquem

Bionic Poster
People are saying that if it hits the official it is automatically a DQ and that all players know this. They had no discretion to continue on once she received medical treatment.

The rule is ridiculous.
I thought the rule was "hit in anger". This was not hit in anger. It's plain for everyone to see in that video. It's an accident.
 

_GOATbis

Rookie
He should've showed face and apologized... that being said, I would've probably stormed out of there myself in embarrassment and shame.
He did NOTHING wrong.

If the would come, surrender and apologize that would give a green light for US open to commit even more outrages.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Recap & context for memory: Novak had PCB serving 0-40 for set point. Novak lost 7 points in a row....
Once Novak lost 3 points in a row to deuce on PCB's service game he violently hit the ball into the sideboarding... anger mgmt issues?
Eventually Novak lost his serve, score now 6-5 PCB. hits ball towards wall. He could have tapped it onto the ground but he was in a bad mood.
He needs to own up to his mistake and accept the penalty.
I don't agree with the "violently". Did you see the videos posted in other threads? Where is the violence? It was a casual hit. It looks like an accident (I originally agreed with the "anger" theory but from the actual video, I can't see it).
 

Praetorian

Professional
Him leaving speaks volumes about his character. Similarly, the character of those who support his blatant unprofessionalism, is also revealed. Pledging fealty to any sports athlete is beyond ridiculous, and guess what, he won’t sleep with you for doing so. Those who wish ill will to this woman, feel free to block me, so I don’t the stupidity of your posts.


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Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
I thought the rule was "hit in anger". This was not hit in anger. It's plain for everyone to see in that video. It's an accident.
The claim is that he had lost several points in a row and was frustrated.
Would estimate that he hit it back at 35mph. At most it should be a penalty and fine. Not DQ. The rule is confusing. Is there discretion for the Tournament to carry on? Or are their hands completely tied due to the silly tradition of officials being sacrosanct?
 
This is all the motivation he needs to do the grand slam next year, he should read some of the salty replys here if he needs some inspiration.
 

upchuck

Professional
The self-serving tennis media is the worst. Of course they want him to attend a press conference to give them content. Doesn't mean he is any less good a person because he chose to clear his head and not be part of a public spectacle.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
The self-serving tennis media is the worst. Of course they want him to attend a press conference to give them content. Doesn't mean he is any less good a person because he chose to clear his head and not be part of a public spectacle.
It is preferable to do the press but totally understandable if he skips it. He is probably devastated after working so hard. He immediately ran after to apologize and console this old frightened woman.

That is the important thing.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
What if someone asked him at the presser about whether officials take a dim view of his new Association?
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The decision to describe an act as 'egregious' and therefore exact instant disqualification is purely a discretionary one.

The claim is that he had lost several points in a row and was frustrated.
Would estimate that he hit it back at 35mph. At most it should be a penalty and fine. Not DQ. The rule is confusing. Is there discretion for the Tournament to carry on? Or are their hands completely tied due to the silly tradition of officials being sacrosanct?
 

TU87

Rookie
The DQ was correct but I don’t fault Novak for skipping the press conference. I never fault athletes for blowing off the media.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Not blowing off the media is a rule too, so he'll be fined for that as well.

The DQ was correct but I don’t fault Novak for skipping the press conference. I never fault athletes for blowing off the media.
 

Tennease

Legend
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/us-open-tennis-novak-djokovic-default-daniela-hantuchova-anger-assessment-005552344.html

'Out of control': Explosive new details about Novak Djokovic anger issues
Andrew Reid
Yahoo Sport Australia9 September 2020, 10:25 am


A former tennis star and close friend of Novak Djokovic has given a "fascinating" insight into the World No.1's anger management issues.

Daniela Hantuchova offered her take on the Serbian star's US Open disqualification that has been the talk of the tennis world this week.

The Slovakian former World No.5 is good friends with Djokovic and his wife Jelena, and is also very tight with the Serb's coach Marian Vajda, who is also Slovakian.

However, that relationship with Team Djokovic didn't stop the 37-year-old from offering a frank assessment of the 17-time grand slam champions’s actions during the now infamous line judge incident.

Speaking on Amazon Prime UK’s broadcast of the New York grand slam, Hantuchova suggested Djokovic's explosion was a long time coming because he has problems dealing with anger resolution.

“It feels like sometimes the anger comes out of control,” Hantuchova said.

“I care so much about him and respect everything he is doing for our game, but I just hope there is a lesson to be learned, even if this one came at the worst possible time, where pretty much the only thing standing between him and an 18th grand slam title was himself, with all my respect to the other players.”

Hantuchova also criticised Djokovic about his roles in the ill-fated Adria Tour and formation of the breakaway tennis body, during a period of global uncertainty brought about by the coronavirus pandemic.

“So many times he has the right intentions, it’s just with the timing he’s not getting it right, like the Adria Tour,” Hantuchova said.

“There’s no problem with running an exhibition tour like that, just not when the whole world stops. Same with the ATP stuff. Sure things need to change, but not right now.”

The brutally honest assessment left Hantuchova's peers stunned, with fellow Amazon broadcaster Catherine Whitaker praising the honesty of Djokovic's close friend.

“When she reeled it all off for me I was so taken aback because, as you say she does have a relationship with Novak Djokovic. She’s very close to his coach Marian Vajda, he’s a fellow Slovakian, and she has a relationship also with Novak Djokovic’s wife Jelena,” Whitaker said on The Tennis Podcast.

“She thinks a lot of them and understands them (Djokovic’s family and friends).

Hantuchova pulls no punches
“She understands every bit of that (his upbringing) and the significance of it in his psyche, potentially.

“But having said all of that, she was pulling no punches with regards to how she saw the incident. She said this has been a very long time coming and she said he has an anger problem and he needs to seek some sort of anger management help.

“She said it’s entirely normal for tennis players to have difficulty controlling their emotions and holding back feelings of anger on a tennis court.

“She said Roger Federer had that … he was a total hot-head until he was 18, 19, maybe even a little bit older and he recognised that was not viable if he wanted to be everything that he could be.

“She had absolutely no clemency at all for his failure to front up afterwards. She said that’s cowardice, that’s the opposite of leadership and he should be ashamed of himself.”

BBC commentator David Law said while Hantuchova’s remarks might seem harsh on Djokovic, they come from a place of love.

“It really made me think about things in a slightly different way, particularly Daniela Hantuchova,” Law told The Tennis Podcast.

“I found her contributions just really fascinating, I think partly because I know she knows Novak Djokovic pretty well and certainly is very well known to Marian Vajda — they get on well, don’t they.

“I found Daniela’s view on all of that really something to behold and I wasn’t expecting it either.

“I feel like it’s those kinds of conversations that Novak Djokovic would love to take to heart, really, because she’s certainly not out to get him, not in any way. She wants what’s best for him, I’m sure of that.”
 
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dr325i

G.O.A.T.
The DQ was unnecessary and silly.
This has to be heartbreaking.
Djoker must be sick to his stomach and vomiting at home.
DQ is fully justified and about time IMO.
he’s had close calls before
it is good to be fully into the match and emotional and we love that about Novak, but this was careless and fully deserved DQ.
Bad thing (for others) is that now he’ll be back even stronger...
 
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