Weaving Crosses... What's your preference?

How do you prefer to start weaving your crosses?


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StringGuruMRT

Semi-Pro
So as I was just stringing a racquet I wondered... How do most stringers prefer to start weaving their crosses? Over the first main, or under?

It's just a preference for me, but I prefer to start over. Just the way I've always tried to do it!

Wondering if I'm in the majority, minority, or if its a 50/50 split.
 

am1899

Hall of Fame
I pre-weave the top 3. I go over the first main on the third cross. This ensures (on most racquets) every time I weave a cross (for most of the remaining crosses) I’m starting under the first main, and therefore over the last main. I find it a pinch faster that way.
 
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Wes

Professional
I pre-weave the top 3. I go over the first main on the third cross. This ensures every time I weave a cross (for the remainder of the crosses) I’m starting under the first main, and therefore over the last main. I find it a pinch faster that way.

This is exactly what I do as well.
Frequently, when I read your posts, I often wonder if we're not long lost brothers or something. :laughing:
Based on years of posts/responses... it's kind of uncanny how similar we think.

If I were to venture a guess as to how this poll will come out in the end (with a larger enough sample size), I think it will be closer towards an "even split" than being extremely "one-sided".
However, I would speculate that it will trend toward more stringers favoring the "beginning under" option.

I have some specific reasons for choosing this option myself, but won't say (yet) what those reasons are - since I don't want to influence/pollute the poll.

Later on, I may expound on the pros/cons of beginning one way vs. another (FWIW, each option has pros/cons).
 

Wes

Professional
For me it all depends on the racquet. The number of skips determines how I start.

I may be mistaken, but I think @StringGuruMRT is asking about people's preference regarding the majority/bulk of the crosses, rather than specifically the top cross(es), where the skipped holes come into play.
Even with your specific methodology, you are ensuring that the remainder/bulk of the crosses are "starting under".

@StringGuruMRT, please correct me if I'm mistaken. Perhaps it's a good idea to clarify, so everyone is on the same page when they answer/vote.
 
Try to set it up with going under most of the time; this way when I finish the weave, the string will come out above the string bed as opposed to below
 

nochuola

Rookie
The first 2 crosses will depend on the pattern, but I like to set it up where, for the rest of the crosses, I always go under first. My reasoning is simply: I find going under (and back up) more difficult than going over, so since the first weave has more space to work with, I choose to take the opportunity to do the more difficult thing (going under) there.
 

Herb

Semi-Pro
I may be mistaken, but I think @StringGuruMRT is asking about people's preference regarding the majority/bulk of the crosses, rather than specifically the top cross(es), where the skipped holes come into play.
Even with your specific methodology, you are ensuring that the remainder/bulk of the crosses are "starting under"..
If this is the case, then I prefer to start under.
 

djNEiGht

Hall of Fame
I like to start over and finish under. finishing under the string sits lower in the clamp and I don't have to dial up the pressure so much.
 

StringGuruMRT

Semi-Pro
So let me follow up with this... Does your weaving method determine your preference? Does "pulling a loop" like I do make it better to primarily start over? I know I'm in the minority for weaving technique! Do push weavers tend to prefer to primarily start under? I can say for sure that I don't see any performance difference for me if I'm starting over or under. There's no time difference between the two for me.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
I start my crosses so the anchor string for the last cross will be on top of the intersecting string. That way I never end up with a tight place to tie the knot. More often than not, that means I’m weaving over the first outer mains, but I really have no preference.
 
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norcal

Hall of Fame
I have no preference since It does not change the amount of time required to weave.
I'm sitting here trying to remember what I do...I'm guessing I just go with the natural direction/curve of the string once I feed it into the first grommet. :unsure:
 

Stefanm

Rookie
For some racquets with tight spaces for cross tie offs, one way or the other determines whether the string you’re tying off to is above or below the crowding string. It makes it easier if its above as you can start the knot on the other side of the crowding string and just pop it back toward the grommet
 
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am1899

Hall of Fame
I have no preference since It does not change the amount of time required to weave.
By starting under the first main when starting to weave each cross, in effect, I don’t have to weave the string over the last main - its “automatic.” So for example, in a 16 main racquet, once I’ve woven the string under the penultimate main, in effect, I’m done weaving. Follow? Could be that that way just feels faster to me. I suppose I could do a speed comparison to find out. Until then, jury is still out.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
@am1899 - I have always, since 1982, woven over the first main. I did an ATW and did under the first main. It was easier and you're 100% correct, the last main is automatic. Great suggestion.
 

loosegroove

Hall of Fame
@am1899 - I have always, since 1982, woven over the first main. I did an ATW and did under the first main. It was easier and you're 100% correct, the last main is automatic. Great suggestion.
Like dude, at this very moment your one single vote can sway the poll one way or another. So what say you? Are you sticking to your original vote or putting on some nice fuzzy socks at bedtime?
 
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I set it up so that I can usually start under first main for majority of crosses so that I finish going over last main making it easier and quicker to thread string through the grommet on the other side.

First main strung would be dependent on string pattern as some patterns have first and sometimes second cross starting inside the outer mains and some dont. I also string second cross first and weave back to first cross before tying starting knot. But I plan it so I start the majority of crosses as under the first main string from then on
 

beepee1972

Semi-Pro
I ALWAYS start under, because that results in ending over the last main, which is easier to guide the string into the grommet. I have done years the other way around, and now have been doing UNDER first for years!
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
When I’m weaving crosses I usually prefer to go over the first outer main. On a 16 main racket that skips 7 & 9 that means I go under the last main which is the 6th cross. Then I will go over the string on the outside of the frame between the 6th & 7th mains. My knot usually tie off on the high side of the anchor string so if I tie off at the 6th main there will never be a crossover on the outside of the frame.

I just finished stringing a 16x19 frame that only skipped 8 head and throat and tied off at the 7th main. In this case I went under the first outside main leaving me going under the 7th main at the end. Now my string exiting 8T goes over the string connecting 7T to 9T and I tie off at 8T. Because there is limited room I can tie the knot between the bottom 2 crosses and again because I’m over the string outside the frame there are not cross overs.
When i cinch up the knot it moves right up against the grommet snug as a bug in a rug.
 
It would seem I like having it so I start under the first main, primarily because it makes threading into the grommet easier after weaving because you went over the last main.
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
Ha! See that I may be an outlier again. It makes no difference to me because I generally pre weave 5 crosses at a time 3x. When I get down to the throat, I weave one-at-a-time. That way, I only have to tension, clamp, pull, tension....what slows me down is making sure I move the cross and waiting for the stupid machine to stop making adjustments. :alien:
 
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