Wednesday night. Moscow Final - The "Premier" Event

Champion's League Winner?

  • Manchester United

    Votes: 8 36.4%
  • Chelsea

    Votes: 4 18.2%
  • Penalties - Manchester United

    Votes: 8 36.4%
  • Penalties - Chelsea

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • Total voters
    22
  • Poll closed .
I take back what I said about Terry. I was just really upset, too upset to use logic.

Anyway, my Man of the Match definitely goes to Frank Lampard. He was just dynamic in the second half. I also thought Essien was VERY good in the second half. He's a class act, that one. And Ballack looked pretty good too. Hopefully he's going to be back next year and bring the form that saw him dominate against United a few weeks ago week in week out.

As for Drogba, he's an excellent player but I don't expect to see him in CHELSEA blue next season. I expect him to be in INTER blue (and black) next season.

And did anyone hear about Lampard to Inter? Supposedly it's a done deal, but who cares? It's not going to happen.


And finally, when is Mourinho going to come out of hiding and tell us where he's going to be next year?
 
Anybody else find Christiano very annoying? A lot of people say he's the best right now but the guy looks like a freakin' tree wrapped in a hard cement(that's the best description I can come up with), his motions are so ugly and stiff(I know I know he's an good ball striker). I don't read a lot of football news but he seems like he's the type that likes attention. I wouldn't be surprised at all if this guy is a jerk. Okay end of rant.

He's not a likable guy, thats why I like him. Why should he be, so that people do not feel thretned by his superiority ? He's surely one of the best footbalers today if not the best. He does not look as effortless as Kaka but has similar amasing skills, good striker, lots of assists and dribbles, penetrating from both sides and the middle, great crosses whatever.
 
Thanks for the explanation daddy.

Yep I've seen that too, he disguised it very smartly.
But what was much worse in my opinion was the rude tackling from Calvalho against Ronaldo. Imagine a team mate of your national team breaks your leg 3 weeks before EURO 2008!

There was grounds for sending off for sure, I think the fact Carvalho is also Portugese helped him. But that was a bad tackle on the leg he was standing on. Leg could've snapped like that.

Kudos to the referee for keeping the match alive, he could have easily shown red to any of the trio we named ( Makelele, Tevez, Carvalho ) .. and much earlier in the match. It would have ruined it, so good job from him.
 
..Anyway, my Man of the Match definitely goes to Frank Lampard. He was just dynamic in the second half. I also thought Essien was VERY good in the second half. He's a class act, that one. And Ballack looked pretty good too. Hopefully he's going to be back next year and bring the form that saw him dominate against United a few weeks ago week in week out.

As for Drogba, he's an excellent player but I don't expect to see him in CHELSEA blue next season. I expect him to be in INTER blue (and black) next season.

And did anyone hear about Lampard to Inter? Supposedly it's a done deal, but who cares? It's not going to happen.

I agree about Lampard, he was magnificent. He really took the game by the scruff of the neck after Carrick and Scholes had run it for the first 30 mins but he single handedly got us back in to it and the rest of the team joined in there after.

As for Drogba, I really hope he goes. All season he's been talking rubbish and saying he wants to leave, he's getting old and he's part of the reason why we play 4-3-3, lumping the ball up to him which is very limiting. I think we can get £20 Million + for him and that's excellent business.

As for Frank.. I believe his performances against Liverpool in the semi and Man Utd in the final last night will mean he'll be given a new contract, it appears like he wants to stay and he's well loved so I think he'll stay. He's been without doubt the most prolific goal scoring central midfielder in the game over the past 4 years (20+ goals a season is unheard of) so he's irreplaceable, we can't let him leave.

...Did anyone notice when Tevez deserved a sending off ? After being brought down some time in the 2nd half, he decided to get back at Makelele and in one clash he smacked Claude very hard, there was no acting there, just Tevez was very good at making it look like a regular duel/clash for the ball. Clean fist.

Lol yeah he seemed to punch him and rugby tackle him. I'm sure if an official had seen it he'd of been sent off but to be fair, it is hard to see every incident.

I thought it was strange he booked both Maka and Scholes for the clash of heads near the start aswell lol.. What was all that about?
 
I thought it was strange he booked both Maka and Scholes for the clash of heads near the start aswell lol.. What was all that about?

I think its a preventive measure, to make sure they do not kill eachother there. And on top of that it was not exactly a head clash. Iwe rewind this a few times and Make did brake his nose with an suspiciously intentional elbow, everyone was upset but by far the worse was Carvalho.

I think Ref did a good job of keeping it under control as much as possible.
 
Unfortunately Chelsea lost and Man. United are the Champions League holders again, but it was so lucky! They didn't deserve to win, only Chelsea was playing at the second half and overtime. Drogba is inexcusable, been snt off in the Champions League final and at his last game with Chelsea. I think that he was nervous because of the poor performance he had....
As for Terry, he was the captain, he decided to take the last penalty and he missed! He has to pay the price now....
 
Unfortunately Chelsea lost and Man. United are the Champions League holders again, but it was so lucky! They didn't deserve to win, only Chelsea was playing at the second half and overtime. Drogba is inexcusable, been snt off in the Champions League final and at his last game with Chelsea. I think that he was nervous because of the poor performance he had....
As for Terry, he was the captain, he decided to take the last penalty and he missed! He has to pay the price now....

Lucky? If it wasn't for Essien's hopeful shot deflecting off two defenders and Van Der Sar slipping, mama's boy Lampard wouldn't have scored and the second half would probably have been a different story.
 
Lucky? If it wasn't for Essien's hopeful shot deflecting off two defenders and Van Der Sar slipping, mama's boy Lampard wouldn't have scored and the second half would probably have been a different story.

Dont be so hard on Frank, he's a good guy and misses his mum. We'd all feel the same.
 
I was on the setanta site, reading an article about Lampard wanting to begin contract talks on June 2, and there was a comments box at the side and this guy criticised Terry, saying 'so called world class center back' and saying he had no balls, but he took the penalty to win the biggest club trophy in the world, you have to have balls to do that, so many people relying on you.

I like Drogba, but I dont want to see him in Milan next year, if any striker comes to Inter, I wat Kun Aguero, the boy is going to be better than ronaldo (even though they're different positions)
 
I was on the setanta site, reading an article about Lampard wanting to begin contract talks on June 2, and there was a comments box at the side and this guy criticised Terry, saying 'so called world class center back' and saying he had no balls, but he took the penalty to win the biggest club trophy in the world, you have to have balls to do that, so many people relying on you.

I like Drogba, but I dont want to see him in Milan next year, if any striker comes to Inter, I wat Kun Aguero, the boy is going to be better than ronaldo (even though they're different positions)

Spot on.

Let's face it, Terry had Van Der Sar going the wrong way so he did everything in his power to score it.. it just happened to be that he slipped at the moment of impact, nobody could predict a thing like that was going to happen.

I agree about Aguero too. I don't think he'll be leaving Atheltico for another year at least but when he does, everyone will be after him.
 
Also, i forgot to post this in my previous, but does anyone know whats wrong with Tevez's neck?

EDIT

It doesnt matter, I read his wikipedia page, he has 3rd degree burns from pulling a kettle of boiling water over him as a baby
 
He said the best team on the night finished second, and pretty much everyone outside of Manchester United has agreed with him so far.

And all MUFC fans all around the world. Should I rub salt to the wound by saygin the obvious - it is a club with most fans outside of its own country ?
 
I never get why so many people like Man United, for me, they have never had ANY appeal whatsoever, I grew up supporting Newcastle in England, probably because they are closest to me.
Do they support Man U because they win (glory hunters)? or is it for other reasons im not quite getting?
 
I was sooo routing for Chelasea and was sooo happy when Ronaldo's shot was saved! He is a cocky jerk, that's all! Even tho he might be the best player right now!
Another thing, how can u possibly let Terry shoot the last penalty? I mean we all know dudes from England are bad when it comes to penalty shootouts haha! That was the dumbest thing I have ever seen..how he slipped! He didn't even need to shoot hard or rght into the corner, but well enough of that!
In my eyes the best player of Chelsea was Ballack! He was phenomenal! About 90% of his passes got to where they were supposed to, he ran the most of all players on the field, he lost about what like 2 balls??? He gave that pass to Lampard and so on...he was really good! Terry was pretty good as well!Drogba was awful not to mention his slap!Cech was grreat too! Chelsea derserved it!
 
I never get why so many people like Man United, for me, they have never had ANY appeal whatsoever, I grew up supporting Newcastle in England, probably because they are closest to me.
Do they support Man U because they win (glory hunters)? or is it for other reasons im not quite getting?

My own opinion of course but for an outsider(I'm in the US and don't follow football that much), I think ManU is like an easy way out, it's a flashy and commercial team to follow. I have seen the stadium at Old Trafford then watched a match in Wigan, very big difference lol but I was moved more with Wigan and their following, a much smaller club than ManU but when I was there in 2005 Wigan had quite a run at the Premiership. That being said, I like Chelsea and Bolton much better than everyone else.
 
And all MUFC fans all around the world. Should I rub salt to the wound by saygin the obvious - it is a club with most fans outside of its own country ?

They do have fans all over the world yeah, they're the team that wins everything and have the fancy players, and have done for years so I can see why people pick them.. it's an easy way out but whatever they enjoy I suppose.

So everyone connected with Man Utd think they deserved it, and everyone who isn't acknowledged Chelsea were the team who played better from the 30th min to the 117th when Drogba got sent off.. funny that ;)

I never get why so many people like Man United, for me, they have never had ANY appeal whatsoever, I grew up supporting Newcastle in England, probably because they are closest to me.
Do they support Man U because they win (glory hunters)? or is it for other reasons im not quite getting?

Yeah me too.

Growing up there wasn't too much football on tv but when there was, more often than not it was Man Utd who were playing and winning so I think that had something to do with it. I was lucky my Dad would never of let me support anyone else so there was never really any issue to jump on the bandwagon for me.

I remember in the mid-to-late '90's they brought buckets round at the end of the game for donations to save Stamford Bridge, also in 2003 we had to beat Liverpool on the last day of the season to get in the Champions League and save the club from going into administration, if Gronkjaer hadn't of scored it could of been us where Leeds are now but he scored, Abramovich came that summer, and the rest's history.
 
So everyone connected with Man Utd think they deserved it, and everyone who isn't acknowledged Chelsea were the team who played better from the 30th min to the 117th when Drogba got sent off.. funny that ;).

Whel ManU could have scored a couple easily also. Its not only the woodwork. Clearence of the line from Terry and couple consecutive saves from Ronaldo I think and Carrick as a follow up, amasing from Cech. They had a fair share of chances. Tevez's header and once he missed a open goal because he was half step behind ?

In some crazy lucky game it could have been 4 - 0 to ManU or 1 - 4 to Chelsey but I do not give the edge to any of them in that match. They equaly deserved to win but there's always going to be just one winner, is it ?
 
...And in other news, Jose Mourinho has decided to take over Inter Milan, according to multiple sources. Word going around is that he texted none other than Essien asking him to come join him at Inter. Supposedly, Inter will officially reveal Mourinho as their new boss on Monday. This summer is going to be VERY interesting.

Oh, and is the summer transfer window open yet, like officially? I thought it was open already but I guess most big signings are made in June and from then on...
 
I never get why so many people like Man United, for me, they have never had ANY appeal whatsoever, I grew up supporting Newcastle in England, probably because they are closest to me.
Do they support Man U because they win (glory hunters)? or is it for other reasons im not quite getting?

What's the appeal of Inter? Perennial bottlers since the eighties until all the competition was taken out of Serie A.
 
Inter play my kind of football, and the meazza was the first stadium I ever saw in Italy, not to mention the area I lived in was an Inter area, I support Inter because thats where I was, I like their style and I like the players, Im thinking about a season ticket in the 09/19 season, you cang et one in the Curva del nord for 200 euros. Aother reason is that the fans are some of the most passionate in the world, if not the best fans in the world. This was before Inter started wining too, 2004.



According to AOL, Hleb is definately moving this summer, arsenal will recieve a 'big fee' for him and it should be sorted over the weekend
 
...And in other news, Jose Mourinho has decided to take over Inter Milan, according to multiple sources. Word going around is that he texted none other than Essien asking him to come join him at Inter. Supposedly, Inter will officially reveal Mourinho as their new boss on Monday. This summer is going to be VERY interesting.

Oh, and is the summer transfer window open yet, like officially? I thought it was open already but I guess most big signings are made in June and from then on...

There were reports in the morning papers of Mourinho and Abramovich having positive meetings over the past 6 weeks, showing signs that the relationship is being repaired between the two, and also other board members. One highly placed source in the club also stated that Mourinho returning as manager HAD been discussed which spices things up a bit. I also find it interesting how Mourinho has been quoted as saying Chelsea were very unlucky to lose the final and that they were the better team (how man times has he said something like that since he left? Only a few months back he was saying how he wanted to "kill" Chelsea). It could be seen as him giving a subtle reminder that he's got Chelsea in his blood and would consider returning, he's always said he'd like to come back at some point in the future as we have a special place in his heart so there could be some truth in it all.

Another thing worth mentioning is that he's treated like a God here and he has a big ego, i'm sure he wouldn't complain at being rejoined with his adoring fans AND players (which he has said he wants to buy if he joins another club, he'd already have them if he came back to Chelsea.)

Also! He still has a house in England which he loves and so do his family, he has the amazing relationship with the media.. Not to mention the 8 months that have passed have meant the lessons of where things went wrong first time can be rectified with Abramovich knowing he has to fully back his manager on players he wants etc...

I think it all comes down to how two proud men would accept they made mistakes and learn from them. That's the major sticking point.
 
There were reports in the morning papers of Mourinho and Abramovich having positive meetings over the past 6 weeks, showing signs that the relationship is being repaired between the two, and also other board members. One highly placed source in the club also stated that Mourinho returning as manager HAD been discussed which spices things up a bit. I also find it interesting how Mourinho has been quoted as saying Chelsea were very unlucky to lose the final and that they were the better team (how man times has he said something like that since he left? Only a few months back he was saying how he wanted to "kill" Chelsea). It could be seen as him giving a subtle reminder that he's got Chelsea in his blood and would consider returning, he's always said he'd like to come back at some point in the future as we have a special place in his heart so there could be some truth in it all.

Another thing worth mentioning is that he's treated like a God here and he has a big ego, i'm sure he wouldn't complain at being rejoined with his adoring fans AND players (which he has said he wants to buy if he joins another club, he'd already have them if he came back to Chelsea.)

Also! He still has a house in England which he loves and so do his family, he has the amazing relationship with the media.. Not to mention the 8 months that have passed have meant the lessons of where things went wrong first time can be rectified with Abramovich knowing he has to fully back his manager on players he wants etc...

I think it all comes down to how two proud men would accept they made mistakes and learn from them. That's the major sticking point.

Hopeful thinking maybe?:) And he bought a house in Monza this month reportedly, a bit out of the Milan city center, I would be happy with Mancini staying though, you can't win the Serie A the last 2 seasons without being a good manager, but Morratti wants european success and it seems Mancini just can't give us that
 
There were reports in the morning papers of Mourinho and Abramovich having positive meetings over the past 6 weeks, showing signs that the relationship is being repaired between the two, and also other board members. One highly placed source in the club also stated that Mourinho returning as manager HAD been discussed which spices things up a bit. I also find it interesting how Mourinho has been quoted as saying Chelsea were very unlucky to lose the final and that they were the better team (how man times has he said something like that since he left? Only a few months back he was saying how he wanted to "kill" Chelsea). It could be seen as him giving a subtle reminder that he's got Chelsea in his blood and would consider returning, he's always said he'd like to come back at some point in the future as we have a special place in his heart so there could be some truth in it all.

Another thing worth mentioning is that he's treated like a God here and he has a big ego, i'm sure he wouldn't complain at being rejoined with his adoring fans AND players (which he has said he wants to buy if he joins another club, he'd already have them if he came back to Chelsea.)

Also! He still has a house in England which he loves and so do his family, he has the amazing relationship with the media.. Not to mention the 8 months that have passed have meant the lessons of where things went wrong first time can be rectified with Abramovich knowing he has to fully back his manager on players he wants etc...

I think it all comes down to how two proud men would accept they made mistakes and learn from them. That's the major sticking point.

Most likely meeting to tidy up any contractual wranglings before joining his new club. Also checking to see if Roman will sue his *** if he signs Drogba, Lampard et al.

Jose's not going back to Chelsea in a hurry.
 
Hopeful thinking maybe?:) And he bought a house in Monza this month reportedly, a bit out of the Milan city center, I would be happy with Mancini staying though, you can't win the Serie A the last 2 seasons without being a good manager, but Morratti wants european success and it seems Mancini just can't give us that

Mancini seems ok but he doesn't really have much competition in Italy and he's always failed badly in Europe so i'm not so sure he's the right man at the moment.

Most likely meeting to tidy up any contractual wranglings before joining his new club. Also checking to see if Roman will sue his *** if he signs Drogba, Lampard et al.

Jose's not going back to Chelsea in a hurry.

Is he not? Friends of his said it's very likely he'll be back at Chelsea sometime in the future, probably after his time in Italy but him returning one day is very possible.

Also one time Mourinho and Abramovich met up, Roman brought Jose a £2 Million 4 seater Ferrari... what you think about that? ;)
 
The plot thickens!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1206087.ece

How about that?

Ian McGarry is a very good journalist on all things Chelsea related, he's often the first to know of stories and has a regular spot on Chelsea TV where he discusses things in the paper so there has to be at least some truth to it. Also he is one of Frank Lampards best friends and helped him write his autobiography.

I think Abramovich has learnt he has to let his manager deal with all the football related problems and there have been rumours of Arnesen being sacked anyway as he isn't producing the calibre of young players that the club need.

It sounds like it's all coming together ;)
 
I would too, why would you want to go from being a big time manager whom other clubs might want to secure as their manager to being a director

Other clubs should want him only if he's proved himself. I'm not sure he's done that, but he seems like a genuinely nice guy and I wish him well for the future.
 
And the latest word is that Ancelotti (sp?) is going to take over, after leaving Milan. He knows a thing or two about European success, but would that also mean he'd bring in guys that are 35+ years old? :P

In other news, Inter's manager stepped down today. Mourinho is all but confirmed as their next manager.
 

Yeah it looks like he's already been interviewed, he's done great in his career so far and he is only 39 so it wouldn't be the worst move.

I still want Jose back as the number 1 priority though but it looks like Mancini has been sacked this evening so I think he'll be installed as Inter manager in the next few days.

Seconds choice would be Hughes, he grew up as a Chelsea fan, was a Chelsea legend in his time here, and also he would bring back Kevin Hitchcock as goalkeeper coach and there have been rumours of Zola coming back as assistant manager. That would be amazing.

If Jose does go to Inter and Hughes stays at Blackburn then Rijkaard would be third choice for me, but it is a distant third.
 
Mancini first choice, then Rijkaard. Just my opinion but it will be an interesting summer with this manager merry-go-round!
 
Today, the club confirmed that Henk Ten Cate was sacked as first team coach. This is NOT good, and I'm getting more and more worried that Chelsea will turn into the laughing stock of the Premier League with all this coaching nonsense. Get in Hughes or Mancini right now. Rikaard is now out of the picture because Ten Cate is done. Hell, why doesn't Roman just appoint himself, we all know he wants to... :(
 
Today, the club confirmed that Henk Ten Cate was sacked as first team coach. This is NOT good, and I'm getting more and more worried that Chelsea will turn into the laughing stock of the Premier League with all this coaching nonsense. Get in Hughes or Mancini right now. Rikaard is now out of the picture because Ten Cate is done. Hell, why doesn't Roman just appoint himself, we all know he wants to... :(

What's so bad about him being fired?

He's had bust ups with half the team and what manager in his right mind would come to a club with the old assistant manager still there? He'd want to bring in his own men so he'd have to go then anyway.
 
One thing about Mourinho is that he ALWAYS raids his old clubs for their best players.

If he really is the special one and such a great manager why can't he mold the players he has at his disposal into his players?

If he does end up with Essien, Cole, Lampard, Carvalho, Drogba (who's to say he won't try to get even more?) then isn't he essentially just buying half the Chelsea team?

Where's the genius in that :confused:
 
He has helped mould those players into who they are today, you sound bitter that he decided against a move back to chelsea, and he has said he will only sign 2 - 3 new players
 
He has helped mould those players into who they are today, you sound bitter that he decided against a move back to chelsea, and he has said he will only sign 2 - 3 new players

lol how's that bitter?

It's a legitimate question.

If Rijkaard comes will he be bringing Deco, Xavi, Puyol, Messi, Iniesta, Eto'o etc?
I doubt it, he'll be working with what he has and looking to players who he needs, not who he likes.
 
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