Weeks at no.1 are nowhere near close slams

GabeT

Legend
I don’t care about anything across tennis eras I just care about Fedal > Thirdwheelovic. :giggle:
Novak already has more slams than fed did at the same age. he has only one slam less than Nadal did at the same age.

Be careful of what you wish for...
 

GabeT

Legend
remember a few months ago when you kept repeating Novak was done for? Remember what happened at the AO? remember who is the number 1 player in the world today?

Jus don't go disappearing again like you did last time

ahh, who am I kidding? of course you'll disappear :cool: :cool: or maybe show up under another handle?
 

jondice

New User
I agree. Number one is important to prove consistency and the ranking system is needed for seeding. But it's too porous as a tool to determine who's the actual best. Fed just dropped out of the top 4 (I think?) and hasn't played in eons. Novak could ostensibly not play for who knows how long and still be ranked number one. Nadal's been in the Top 10 for years when he only played part of the time due to injury.

Rankings aren't really the most effective way to decide who's the best in the world at any given moment.

Winning Slams is still the easiest, most efficient way to decide who's the best over all.
 

Jason Swerve

Professional
I agree. Number one is important to prove consistency and the ranking system is needed for seeding. But it's too porous as a tool to determine who's the actual best. Fed just dropped out of the top 4 (I think?) and hasn't played in eons. Novak could ostensibly not play for who knows how long and still be ranked number one. Nadal's been in the Top 10 for years when he only played part of the time due to injury.

Rankings aren't really the most effective way to decide who's the best in the world at any given moment.

Winning Slams is still the easiest, most efficient way to decide who's the best over all.
Nonsense. There are no easy ways to determine anything.
 

Jokervich

Hall of Fame
But weeks at number 1 would be important if Federer and/or Nadal had the most weeks, right OP?

Love how you change the goalposts just because you hate Djokovic.
 

USO

Hall of Fame
But weeks at number 1 would be important if Federer and/or Nadal had the most weeks, right OP?

Love how you change the goalposts just because you hate Djokovic.
The goalpost has always been the slams for Fedal and Thirdwheelovic, it’s Djokovic fans who are trying to change the goalpost. :rolleyes:
 

GabeT

Legend
The goalpost has always been the slams for Fedal and Thirdwheelovic, it’s Djokovic fans who are trying to change the goalpost. :rolleyes:
it wasn't that long ago that many claimed Nadal's h2h win over Fed and Novak was a key metric or that Fed's weeks at number 1 was proof of GOATness. Goalposts move all the time.
 

USO

Hall of Fame
Thanks for reminding us that Novak is the Goat weeks at number 1 and masters titles....and after USO this year he will be at 21 slams
Free weeks because of Covid. Even now he skips Madrid and he gets to keep 500 points. Everyone knows that Federer has the legit record. 8-B

Masters titles Nadal will overtake him soon. 8-B

And after the US Open he will still be at 18 slams. 8-B

You're welcome. :giggle:
 
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jondice

New User
Nonsense. There are no easy ways to determine anything.
I'm not saying there are easy ways. But, to me, rankings serve to prove consistency over long periods, not necessarily who's best. And of course, it's certainly a factor for sure. An important one. But I think winning the toughest tourneys is a better barometer of greatness. So for Nole? His record 36 Masters mean more to me than his record weeks at No. 1.
 

Jason Swerve

Professional
I'm not saying there are easy ways. But, to me, rankings serve to prove consistency over long periods, not necessarily who's best. And of course, it's certainly a factor for sure. An important one. But I think winning the toughest tourneys is a better barometer of greatness. So for Nole? His record 36 Masters mean more to me than his record weeks at No. 1.
If you're taking that many slams over that long a period, you're having a #1 player anyway. Other than that, the only difference is two matches and two sets (ATP). Someone who dominates tournaments (probably including slams) week in and out'll 90% likely wear themselves out more than someone who wins all four slams.
 

Jokervich

Hall of Fame
The goalpost has always been the slams for Fedal and Thirdwheelovic, it’s Djokovic fans who are trying to change the goalpost. :rolleyes:
Federer fans always say "X is the true measure of success/being a GOAT" then when Djokovic beats that, they change it. No doubt when Djokovic breaks the slam record, Federer fans will come out with another metric that Djokovic must beat.
 

BauerAlmeida

Professional
Nobody cares about Borg weeks at #1 compared to Connors because the ranking back then was very different from what it is now and it was a joke. Connors got a lot of weeks at #1 than belonged to Borg and others that belonged to Vilas (1977). In fact, in 1977, Connors was the 3rd best player in the world and finished #1. It wasn't updated every Monday and had tons of flaws, most people didn't even care about the ATP ranking and the World Tennis magazine's was more important.

Weeks at #1 now are extremely important, it shows how long have you been the best player in the world. Being #1 is the ultimate achievement in tennis very likely, and being the one who did it the most is obviously huge.
 

BauerAlmeida

Professional
The goalpost has always been the slams for Fedal and Thirdwheelovic, it’s Djokovic fans who are trying to change the goalpost. :rolleyes:
And Djokovic managed to hold the 4 slams at the same time, looks like he didn't do too bad there.
 

AO13

Rookie
For the Christ sake, just how many more threads... Look;

...and after USO this year he will be at 21 slams
This is not direct reply to you, but to all you Djokovic fans - just because you adore Novak and don't like his anti-fans, to put it mildly, it doesn't mean Djokovic will win everything out of spite. Damn no, Djokovic won't have 21 Slams after USO 21. If he couldn't do it on rampage years in 2011 and 2016, he won't do it now at 34 years of age with Rafa and Roger playing still at the top, Lost Gen, Next Gen, Mid Gen and whatever the hell Gen aside.

Second part of the post is direct reply to @USO.

Brother, I get it that you're mainly trolling Novak's die hard fans, whilst there is a certain repulsion towards Djokovic. But this should eventually stop. While it seems that you spend majority of your day on trolling on forums and hating Novak, at the same time quality of the threads and posts is getting more lower and lower. Find a better way to spend your hours, they are precious for your life and they can for sure be more productive to you, than spending this much of time writting the same stuff in different ways, no matter how old are you. Don't find this offensive or whatever, this is just an honest advice from me to you.

Cheers.
 

USO

Hall of Fame
For the Christ sake, just how many more threads... Look;



This is not direct reply to you, but to all you Djokovic fans - just because you adore Novak and don't like his anti-fans, to put it mildly, it doesn't mean Djokovic will win everything out of spite. Damn no, Djokovic won't have 21 Slams after USO 21. If he couldn't do it on rampage years in 2011 and 2016, he won't do it now at 34 years of age with Rafa and Roger playing still at the top, Lost Gen, Next Gen, Mid Gen and whatever the hell Gen aside.
Excellent post. They are completely crazy, arrogant and blind with their predictions and they need to stop worshipping Djokovic as if they are married to him. Thank you for bringing them back down to Earth! :giggle:

Second part of the post is direct reply to @USO.

Brother, I get it that you're mainly trolling Novak's die hard fans, whilst there is a certain repulsion towards Djokovic. But this should eventually stop. While it seems that you spend majority of your day on trolling on forums and hating Novak, at the same time quality of the threads and posts is getting more lower and lower. Find a better way to spend your hours, they are precious for your life and they can for sure be more productive to you, than spending this much of time writting the same stuff in different ways, no matter how old are you. Don't find this offensive or whatever, this is just an honest advice from me to you.

Cheers.
Fedal > Thirdwheelovic :giggle:

Club 20 :giggle:
 

Jason Swerve

Professional
Excellent post. They are completely crazy, arrogant and blind with their predictions and they need to stop worshipping Djokovic as if they are married to him. Thank you for bringing them back down to Earth! :giggle:



Fedal > Thirdwheelovic :giggle:

Club 20 :giggle:
Too blatant.
 

Jokervich

Hall of Fame
Federer didn’t have the luxury of Nadal being injured at the FO and withdrawing. :rolleyes:
He had the luxury of someone beating Nadal early in the tournament. Federer fans should erect a statue of Soderling and worship him for all eternity, because if it wasn't for him Federer would never have won the French Open.

Anyway not sure why I'm giving this troll attention. This is like arguing with a 5 year old - "yeah but he did that, no he didn't do that, waaaah waaaah now give me what I want!!!".
 

USO

Hall of Fame
He had the luxury of someone beating Nadal early in the tournament. Federer fans should erect a statue of Soderling and worship him for all eternity, because if it wasn't for him Federer would never have won the French Open.

Anyway not sure why I'm giving this troll attention. This is like arguing with a 5 year old - "yeah but he did that, no he didn't do that, waaaah waaaah now give me what I want!!!".
One look at your profile picture and it’s obvious that you are the definition of a troll. :rolleyes:
 

BauerAlmeida

Professional
I would have beaten Nadal in 2015. Stop bragging about that win, it was the complete worst version of Nadal ever.
And 2016 was the 2nd worst ever, he would have won again easily. You act as if 2016 Nadal was 2008/2010/2012/2017 Claydal.
 

BGod

Legend
Surprised my last post here was so brief. Borg's 11-8 edge over Connors/Lendl was 37%. Nadal as it stands now is 11% edge, let's give him the French already and it's still 16%. All while Novak is 50% ahead in weeks and 5>0 at the WTF.

Like common, it's not really close to the Borg-Connors scenario.
 
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