Weight training is crucial past 40

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  1. dgold44

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    this is obvious post

    I am 41 and the last few years I noticed how quickly muscle mass can just vanish

    I did not lift weights and my body quickly atrophies while in my earlier years the muscle stayed

    Aging is scary but it's the way of the flesh and bone
     
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    brain atrophy starts in your twenties, between 10,000 and 100,000 neurons lost every day. Got a plan?
     
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    Agree. At least resistance training.

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    Neuron replacement therapy
     
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    I feel that my brain strength is much higher now than in my 20s and 30s
     
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    Synaptic pruning is what you really need to avoid, according to a health conscious chemical free blogger who only eats peanut butter if it comes straight out of the nut
     
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    Perusing the GPPD every morning to jog up the gray cells ?
     
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  8. MathGeek

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    Never been muscular in my upper body. Always had powerful legs from biking. My legs are probably more powerful now than ever from increased mountain biking.

    I spend 5-10 minutes a day with grips and free weights so my upper body does not fall too far behind. It really makes a difference with all the grippy sports: holding onto the handle bars in tricky biking, that funny thing made to hit tennis balls with, shooting sports, grabbing fish, etc.
     
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  9. dgold44

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    Your enlarged brain consumes all your calories !!
    I have thin legs but my calves are ripped
     
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  10. dgold44

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    Did u say you live in Louisiana ???
     
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    Louisiana is my home, but I spend many nights a year in other states (SE mainly) doing consulting work. Lots of great biking in N GA, W NC, W SC, and E TN.
     
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  12. dgold44

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    Hail the SE and SW of America
    We will align when that day comes
    Lol
     
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  13. Mr.Lob

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    Who counted the neurons? Create new connections would be the plan. Bound to be a couple trillion neurons just sitting around not doing anything.
     
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    No, it's not.
     
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    Mental gymnastics, which is what many members of these boards do as part of their off-court fitness regime.
     
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    dis tew much
     
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    Diet is key, really all your life but especially after 35. I recommend a Paleo diet, and then diversify your fitness regime
     
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    Free testosterone boosters. I have always lifted weights hard and have not noticed that much of a drop off after 40. I think one of the keys is maintaining your workload in the gym and eating enough to keep muscles repaired. I have noticed that taking "Ageless Male" (stop laughing) has helped me in the gym in terms of being able to handle the same workload I did in my 30's.
     
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    Translation: Posting in TTW
     
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    Do you want to play tennis decently at older ages?
    Or is it more important NOT to have sand kicked in your face while you're at the beach?
     
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    I've found for me a little bit of weight lifting, twice a week for 15 minutes or so, and some moderate sun exposure go a long ways toward keeping my muscles toned.
     
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  22. sureshs

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    What do you need all that muscle for?
     
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  23. dgold44

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    Stability
     
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    In what activity? You hardly play any tennis now, right?
     
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    General daily activity !!
    I will be making a full return to tennis in Jan !!!
     
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    Injury prevention
     
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    I always thought (possibly wrongly), that FITNESS gives you injury protection. Adding muscle mass just adds more weight that needs to be moved, adding more stress to bones, ligaments, and tendons.
    Something smart upstairs is key also, so you don't go all out helter kelter beyond your physical abilities to break bones, pull ligaments, and stress tendons.
     
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  28. sureshs

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    Only if you play, right?
     
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    Why not do it now? Weather is not a concern where you are.
     
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    Trying to improve my horrible second serve

    I need to devote 10 weeks to it
     
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    You are taking advice from Sureshs?

    I thought you were smarter than that. Do what you think is best. Ignore the idiots. Enjoy your life and your tennis. Don't lay down with the ho's. STDs are real.
     
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  32. dgold44

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    Lol

    I need to give it a few months and see what happens on my second serve

    I tried tossing over my far shoulder but the trajectory angle caused the ball to sail long all the time
    Then I tried tossing more center left and had better success
     
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    Not weight training, but strength and conditioning. You don't need any weights to keep your body fit. Body weight and resistance exercises do that brilliantly. More paramount in those kinds of exercises is the agility, balance, flexibility, and constant work at heart rate.

    Here is an example. This is a majority of the work tennis players do. The do add weight in with dumbbells, or squats are big, but resistance bands and body weight is all the is needed for the 40+ crowd.

    Here is an example:

     
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    Why do you think working on one stroke at a time will get you somewhere? You need to plunge into the game and do everything.
     
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    That is how I do things !!!
     
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    Right, I've got the weight, how do I go about training it?
     
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  37. sureshs

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    But it doesn't work for tennis. It is not like studying one course after another in school. You need to do everything all at once.
     
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    What is the best way to do Resistence training if you only have like 10 minutes per day ?? I assume you mean by using resistence bands...
     
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    I don't think weight training is at all crucial past 40. (I'm 50 this year.) Helpful, perhaps (can't hurt, I suppose). But crucial, no.
     
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    Agree, and If you do too much,,,it can actually hurt you
     
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  41. dgold44

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    I agree
    Just trying to improve my second serve a bit
     
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  42. dgold44

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    Took me 3 months to get first serve to 4.0
     
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    Is it still at 4.0?
     
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  44. IA-SteveB

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    Indeed. Over-training puts a lot of stress on the body and digs a hole that isn't easy to get out of. I've always been an avid body builder but I have modified my workouts at 40+. I feel like I am getting more done with less and being more efficient in the gym. I know if I am lifting for more than 1:15 I am wasting my time.
     
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    Exactly. I'm 42 I can be feeling fully rested and ready to go, I'll hit the gym for an hour and then in the same day spend a couple of hours on the courts practicing hard. Then the next day feel completely ran down cause I did to much. Now it's about realizing my bodies limits . It can't do what my 20 year old friends can do. Regardless of what my mind wants to do.
    I just have to allow my body the chance to rebound.
    With age comes wisdom.
     
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  46. IA-SteveB

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    Well put. I still lift pretty hard M T Th Fri. I play doubles tennis on Tuesday and Thursday nights so it isn't that taxing but on those nights I play from 6:30 to 8pm and then go to the gym down the street from 8:00 to 9:15pm. I don't like doing that but it is the only thing I can do to get my 4 days in at the gym and be able to use Wednesday and the weekend for recovery time. I also don't like eating supper just before tennis but I have to so I have fuel until 9:30. I know my limits but I am always too tempted to knock on the door just to say I can still do it. My body tells me and I listen ... until the next week. lol
     
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    It does. Weight training helps build bone density(something we lose as we age), prevents you from losing muscle(which we lose as we age), and the best way to protect your joints is to have the muscles around them be strong. We lose muscle more quickly as we age and that's why things like going up stairs or simply standing up become hard for people. Weight training can delay that.

    I think it's the opposite. Maintaining muscle mass becomes more and more difficult as you get older, and muscle atrophy is what leads to weak joints and lack of mobility.
     
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    Perhaps you're right. I've had no issues, however, and all I can really speak to is my experience which I wouldn't think would be all that unusual.
     
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  49. Noveson

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    You're only 50 though. Most people still move fine at 50. What I'm saying is a 50 year old that's starts(and keeps) lifting is going to stay more mobile and less likely to get hurt as you move into your 60's and 70's and 80's. At some point it's probably too late to start.
     
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  50. Crocodile

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    Yes, strength and conditioning for athletes over 40 is a must especially if you intend to keep your tennis at a high level and want to prevent injury. It's not about doing heavy weights, it's about doing exercises that stabilise your body and fix imbalances that tennis can do to you.
     
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