Discussion in 'Strings' started by Sampras Fan, Dec 23, 2010.
Anyone tried these strings? Please comment in detail.
Does anyone have any experiences with Black5Edge to share? I was also curious...
Okay, so I finally tried out Black5edge strings. I should point out that I use a K90 frame and I'm roughly at 4.5-5.0 with a long full swing.
Warming up near the net with one bounce: I noticed the strings had nice bite and good control on loopy swings. Nice punch and power. I was placing stuff nicely with great spin and was pretty excited about getting back to the baseline.
Baseline: Initially, I liked everything about the string. In general I found that with a medium to fast loopy swing you really take full advantage of the string. However, once we picked up the pace and I began hitting flatter and faster through the ball, I lost control. So I had to adjust. I think if you are someone who likes to hit with a lot of reverse forehands or just full loopy swings in general, then you'll really enjoy it. But if you're a flatter hitter like myself, then you'll need to adjust at the baseline (not so flat and/or twist the grip a little bit more to drop it in).
After about 75 minutes of hitting with it, I picked up my other K90 (with Pro Line II) and immediately noticed my consistency go up. Pro Line II also benefits my 1hbh more so than most poly's and I'm able to hit long full (flat) swings through the ball on the forehand. It just works for my game.
Tension Maintenance: I haven't had it in the racquet long and I've only played with it two days in a row. But based on other WC strings that I've used (Turbo Twist was pretty great), I can only suspect that tension maintenance is great. Given this fact I would think B5E would be a great alternative to folks who appreciate a co-poly like RPM blast. To me, this string was much better and cheaper to boot!
I hope this is helpful. By the way, I have 3 sets of this string if anyone is interested. I'll sell it for $8 a set plus 4.75 priority shipping. Ideally, I'll like to sell all three. Just received them last week. Email me if interested (firstname.lastname@example.org).
Maybe it needs to be tighter? If you are interested in a trade, I have:
Half set of Genesis Typhoon blue, SPPP, Spin x, and a couple full sets of Tour Bite 17 and cyber blue.
I would consider buying a set from you for $8 if you just throw it in regular mail for like a buck. Who needs $5 shipping.
I have 2 packs of B5E if anyone is interested. (see post in string trades thread). I use a hybrid with multi so I think the edged B5E might not last too long for my setup.
This is a great string, no doubt about it. The manufacturer calls it "plush" and I agree. Its a soft polyester which is to be strung 8% lower than normal. The feel is muted and appears to increase the sweet spot. I like it a lot.
Got Black5Edge from gutsandglory tennis.
Nice string plays like topspin cyber blue MSV focus hex etc.
Soft and muted strung at 52 on tour 90
Going to try the Mosquito bite soon.
Weiss Cannon makes nice strings for a reasonable price.
How does B5E compare to RPM Blast or Luxilon Alu Rough?
How would you compare it to turbotwist?
^^ might get the B5E strung for this weekend and compare with TT 1.24.
after B5E rally hitting - here's my 2 cents. B5E as compared to TT 1.24:
power: B5E < TT, control: TT < B5E, spin: TT < B5E, comfort: TT < B5E (slight difference)
Sounds like a winner. More spin, more control, more comfort. I use TT 1.18, which I believe might be a little more powerful than the 1.24. Black5edge sounds like something I need to check into.
Keep us posted on tension maintenance and durability.
Thanks for remembering my question!
Bumping this to see what everyone's thoughts are on the 2012 version.
I am looking for an arm friendly, durable, control based string.
I don't know guys, if you consider B5E something special, then how bad are the other choices :/
In terms of feel it is fairly muted, I would not call it plush. Bite wears off in 5 hours or so, retains tension/elasticity OK, considering it is not too elastic in the first place.
Compared to Black Widow nothing special, really, but retains initial playability better than Black Widow
i tried B5E in the mains and found it to be a nice low powered string with a nice access to spin and consistent feedback.
The Weiss Cannon strings in general feel softer than the Luxilon ones imo - and their usable playing life is longer also even if they're not quite as good as Luxilon immediately after coming off the stringing machine.
I'm using a hybrid with Weiss Cannon Silverstring in the mains and it's superb. I use a PS85 and have longish strokes also and hit relatively flat when I can. It seems great to me.
Its only one of the most talked about strings on the boards. Search function people, jeez.
This thread was started two years ago, so yes, someone did search to find it.
Thanks PV ;-)
Thanks for everyone's input I was happy to hear about them being softer than Lux (which I like but I feel my tendons don't ;-)
If anyone has any good recommendations in regards to a good cross with this string in a hybrid setup I would love to hear it (spin & control... easy on the arm).
My tennis elbow & I thank you
Genesis Thunder Blast is a great cross with B5E. If you want to soften the string bed even more, try Mantis Comfort Synthetic as a cross.
Dang! Apologies to OP!
Bit of a one dimensional string in my view.
Yes, it generates a ton of spin with a ton of grab and bite on the ball. Yes, its low powered, and control orientated. Yes, its practically impossible to hit the ball out of the court with this string. But it's dead(ish) feeling, doesn't offer a great amount of feel or touch, its very much like a on/off switch in terms of its power modulation, and spin production. There's just something missing with this string in my view - too much of an on/off switch and simply not enough adjustability.
A very particular type of string, for a very particular type of player, looking for a very specific set of characteristics. Not an all around poly by any means.
In fact, come to think of it, I know someone at my club who this string will probably suit. He's a big hitting 'all or nothing' type of player with a HH Radical and a frequent string breaker. Huge but inconsistent serve (several aces, several DFs), huge groundstrokes that either leave a dent in the court with smoke trails or fly into the net/side fence/back fence, and he'll try and hit winners from ultra defensive positions (without much success, I should say). And because he's a young, physically powerful sort of guy, I doubt that any stiffness issues will bother him. And since he's not really a touch player, I doubt that the lack of feel will bother him either. I think I'm going to try and punt the rest my reel onto him.
B5E/NVy hybrid remains the go-to string setup for this old player. suggested the same setup to a young gun with a good serve (placement & power = mucho aces) & big forehand. the dude raves about his wins with it.
As I've said many many times, B5E is next to mediocre as a full bed poly. In the mains as a hybrid, then it's top class IMO.
Which goes to show that its not a great string in the first place and needs another string to compensate for its shortcomings.
for those not afraid to venture "outside the box" string combos/variations might provide desired results. it's all about the results...like wood & nails, mortar mix & water, wort & yeast...
How do you guys like it in fullbed for slices? Is it "best" for slicing? Thanks.
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