Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable 17 Happiness

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Hi all,
I’m not remotely an authority on polys. The only other polys I’ve used are Cyclone, Hyper G and Pro Supex Big Ace... I just wanted to report that beyond the spin and control I’m getting from WCUC, they’re by far, easier on my arm. I feel like I haven’t even played, hitting with these strings.


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That seems to be the trade off, doesn’t it. Softer poly=goes dead quicker. At least that has been my experience, so far. Before my elbow issues, I had used Pro Hurricane Tour, RPM Blast, and RPM Blast Team. Since my elbow issue I’ve used Cyclone, Cyclone Tour, Hyper G, Moto, Black Code, Red Code, and Ultra Cable. I’d have to say that, overall, Hyper G and Ultra Cable are my favorites.


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Very soft poly, good control, spin comparable to Cyclone although it did not provide me with the same "bite"
 
Absolutely hated these strings, came out so stiff strung at my usual poly tension, had to cut them out , spin was good but that was about it .
Normally a fan of weisscanon strings , but these are one of the worst polys ive tried
 
All poly's say this , left it in my frame for a good few weeks and didn't seem to play any better after quite a bit of tension loss.
Not as good as WC scorpion imo.

If I wanted spin from a poly I would go to cyclone
If I wanted a mix of all attributes I would go to black venom
 
Jamesm182 said:
I haven't tried venom rough as of yet, I have been tempted a few times , but love the standard string as is. Have you tried it out?
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I will try BV 1.25 and BVR 1.25 on Thursday on my Pure Aero's. I think about 53lbs for tension to compensate a little bit the massive drop...
I'm really excited about that test!! :)
I think BV and BVR are the softest spin friendly poly on the market and it is what I'm searching.
After that test I will try UC at 46lbs and I will make a decision to buy a reel. UC seems to be really nice but stiffer than BV/BVR... I will see.
It is good to try lots of strings but at one moment you have to find the good one! And buy a reel. :cool:

I can't wait to test BV and BVR!! :D
I just hope it will not be too powerful and not break too quickly... Will see on Thursday! :rolleyes:

I'll be back for reviewing. ;)
 
liftordie said:
I will try BV 1.25 and BVR 1.25 on Thursday on my Pure Aero's. I think about 53lbs for tension to compensate a little bit the massive drop...
I'm really excited about that test!! :)
I think BV and BVR are the softest spin friendly poly on the market and it is what I'm searching.
After that test I will try UC at 46lbs and I will make a decision to buy a reel. UC seems to be really nice but stiffer than BV/BVR... I will see.
It is good to try lots of strings but at one moment you have to find the good one! And buy a reel. :cool:

I can't wait to test BV and BVR!! :D
I just hope it will not be too powerful and not break too quickly... Will see on Thursday! :rolleyes:

I'll be back for reviewing. ;)
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Yes that's what I have found as well. Love the feel and how soft the string is.
Definitely let me now how you get on with the rough, i'm interested in the feel.
I have tried rpm and rpm rough and like the playability of the rough but not so much the feel. If BVR is not of a similar feel to rpmr i'll def try some before
as you say , buying a reel.
BV is hugely underrated imho.
 
Jamesm182 said:
Nobody I know uses it , don't see any pro's using it , no TW review etc. Kind of like a cult following :)
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As far as i know, no ATP pro is using any string from WeissCannon.
They only use strings other pros are successful with.
Concerning uc i can understand this, because it has a very different feel from other strings that i ve tried.
 
ron schaap said:
As far as i know, no ATP pro is using any string from WeissCannon.
They only use strings other pros are successful with.
Concerning uc i can understand this, because it has a very different feel from other strings that i ve tried.
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we were talking about black venom at that time mate :)
 
Jamesm182 said:
we were talking about black venom at that time mate :)
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That's right. :D
I love Black Venom Rough (and Black Venom). Really good and REALLY SOFT spin friendly co-poly!! A real pleasure to play with!
But the softest spin friendly co-poly on the market today is still the Double AR Diablo. And I bought a reel for 56€, great deal on Amazon for short time!!!! :p
 
liftordie said:
That's right. :D
I love Black Venom Rough (and Black Venom). Really good and REALLY SOFT spin friendly co-poly!! A real pleasure to play with!
But the softest spin friendly co-poly on the market today is still the Double AR Diablo. And I bought a reel for 56€, great deal on Amazon for short time!!!! :p
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Hmmmm sounds interesting! how is the tension maintenance and playability compared to bv or bvr? really interested to hear your thoughts or any comparisons
 
Jamesm182 said:
Hmmmm sounds interesting! how is the tension maintenance and playability compared to bv or bvr? really interested to hear your thoughts or any comparisons
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Little bit more control with Diablo but feeling is REALLY similar.
Tension maintenance is also the same: not really good as ALL soft co-poly of the entire universe. :rolleyes:
It is the price to pay to have a SO SOFT and SPIN pleasure at every shot!!! :p
You have to string it 2kg more than usual and cut it every max 10 hours of play. If it not break before...
I have two racquets so it is perfect for me. I can always play with a good string bed. And when you only pay 56€ for a reel....... It is BIG DEAL!!! :D
I talk about 1.24 gauge. Way better feeling than 1.31.

I have made LOTS of research and there is nothing REALLY soft AND spin friendly than Diablo. ;)
 
Just had a look on amazon, not a bad recommendation at all £63 delivered! compared to £94 for BV. Will definitely pick up a couple of sets and try them out!
Sounds like we have very similar taste in strings so should be really good :)
 
Jamesm182 said:
Just had a look on amazon, not a bad recommendation at all £63 delivered! compared to £94 for BV. Will definitely pick up a couple of sets and try them out!
Sounds like we have very similar taste in strings so should be really good :)
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But only 2 or 3 in stock!!!!...... It is a time limited offer, man!!!! BUY A REEL NOW or it will be too late!!!! ;)
 
liftordie said:
That's right. :D
I love Black Venom Rough (and Black Venom). Really good and REALLY SOFT spin friendly co-poly!! A real pleasure to play with!
But the softest spin friendly co-poly on the market today is still the Double AR Diablo. And I bought a reel for 56€, great deal on Amazon for short time!!!! :p
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You could do that but the discussion topic is UC. Black venom isnt even from weisscannon but from Polyfibre. Furthermorevhas nothing in common with UC because its round. You could try comparing Gamma moto with uc because it feels stiff and is really sharp edged.
 
ron schaap said:
You could do that but the discussion topic is UC. Black venom isnt even from weisscannon but from Polyfibre. Furthermorevhas nothing in common with UC because its round. You could try comparing Gamma moto with uc because it feels stiff and is really sharp edged.
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Sorry chief ;)
 
Tennisguy102 said:
Hi, I'm a long time user of WCUC and i absolutely love it. It goes dead rather quickly though so i stopped using it once i used up my reel.
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I didn't find it went dead any quicker than Cyclone of Hyper G. But - it may be that I go dead quicker than before... I also string very low - 43 lbs.
 
liftordie said:
Anyone using UC with Pure Aero?
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I just got my Pure Aero 2019 strung with Ultra Cable. Got a match scheduled for tomorrow.

I really want to like the setup because the color of the racket matches with the color of the string. They look like a match made in heaven. Let's hope they play like that as well :)
 
Good string in terms of control and spin. But a bit stiff for some and playability duration is crap, even compared to other polys
 
joaovitorss said:
Good string in terms of control and spin. But a bit stiff for some and playability duration is crap, even compared to other polys
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I haven't had any issues with durability. Quite happy with this string so far. I string it lower in tension, currently using it at 52/40 and it's staying playable until it breaks. It's lasting roughly around 30 hours which is as good or better than anything I've used in the past. It could be that the reduced tension on the crosses is helping. That's a new thing for me, so maybe that's different, but so far I've not encountered any of the downsides that most people mention when they discuss Ultra Cable.
 
Mr_Zorg said:
I just got my Pure Aero 2019 strung with Ultra Cable. Got a match scheduled for tomorrow.

I really want to like the setup because the color of the racket matches with the color of the string. They look like a match made in heaven. Let's hope they play like that as well :)
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Hopefully you didnt string it too tight. I found out that 23-22kg on a 100inch 16x18 racquet was even a little too much just after stringing. After a week it got better though. Furthermore UC plays a little different than most other polys, so before you play a match with it try first to get familiar with it.
 
Mr_Zorg said:
I just got my Pure Aero 2019 strung with Ultra Cable. Got a match scheduled for tomorrow.

I really want to like the setup because the color of the racket matches with the color of the string. They look like a match made in heaven. Let's hope they play like that as well :)
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You will like it a lot!!! :p(y)
 
ron schaap said:
Hopefully you didnt string it too tight. I found out that 23-22kg on a 100inch 16x18 racquet was even a little too much just after stringing.
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Should be okay. Strung it at 22-21kg. My usual tension is 24-23. Current string of choice is Revolution 18g. It’s really amazing in the Pure Aero.
 
Ok, tried Ultra Cable yesterday with the Pure Aero. Holy crap! I was convinced that I'd love the string and ended up absolutely despising it. Hated it so much I went ahead and cut it out after 30 minutes of hitting.

I strung it fairly low (22-21kg) so the ball bounced from the racket quite easily. However, there was no real power in the shots. My forehand was considerably slower than with the Revolution and most other strings I've tried in the past. Angled shots were okay, but I really struggled with fast penetrating balls. The fact that my shots were slower also meant that I couldn't really see the benefit of extra spin. Due to the lack of power I was also forced to swing harder than I'm used to which very quickly led to elbow pain. This subsided once I stopped trying to swing like an idiot.

Lastly, the sound that the string makes is absolute garbage imho. Even with a vibration dampener you constantly hear the "toing" sound.

The color, i.e. the overall look of string + racket was by far the best part. Think I'd be prepared to give Solinco 30% more for Revolution 18g if it came in yellow :D
 
Mr_Zorg said:
Ok, tried Ultra Cable yesterday with the Pure Aero. Holy crap! I was convinced that I'd love the string and ended up absolutely despising it. Hated it so much I went ahead and cut it out after 30 minutes of hitting.

I strung it fairly low (22-21kg) so the ball bounced from the racket quite easily. However, there was no real power in the shots. My forehand was considerably slower than with the Revolution and most other strings I've tried in the past. Angled shots were okay, but I really struggled with fast penetrating balls. The fact that my shots were slower also meant that I couldn't really see the benefit of extra spin. Due to the lack of power I was also forced to swing harder than I'm used to which very quickly led to elbow pain. This subsided once I stopped trying to swing like an idiot.

Lastly, the sound that the string makes is absolute garbage imho. Even with a vibration dampener you constantly hear the "toing" sound.

The color, i.e. the overall look of string + racket was by far the best part. Think I'd be prepared to give Solinco 30% more for Revolution 18g if it came in yellow :D
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Well it is a low powered control and spin string. I m interested if anyone hybrided it with a more powerfull poly in the crosses?
 
Mr_Zorg said:
I strung it fairly low (22-21kg) so the ball bounced from the racket quite easily. However, there was no real power in the shots.
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The low powered response is the best part IMO. I love dead spin friendly strings. If you didn't like this one, I'd recommend staying far away from Yonex Poly Tour Pro. It's even more low powered.

Also, 22 kg strung on a pure area -- No surprise that was causing arm pain. Most do when paired with the pure areo. I am, however, surprised that there was no power generation.
 
ron schaap said:
Well it is a low powered control and spin string. I m interested if anyone hybrided it with a more powerfull poly in the crosses?
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I knew it was low powered, but didn't think it would be that huge of a difference. Revolution isn't exactly a high-power string.
bleno567 said:
The low powered response is the best part IMO. I love dead spin friendly strings. If you didn't like this one, I'd recommend staying far away from Yonex Poly Tour Pro. It's even more low powered.
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Oh yeah, I've been there... Tried it a few years ago and couldn't clear the net :D
 
Mr_Zorg said:
Ok, tried Ultra Cable yesterday with the Pure Aero. Holy crap! I was convinced that I'd love the string and ended up absolutely despising it. Hated it so much I went ahead and cut it out after 30 minutes of hitting.

I strung it fairly low (22-21kg) so the ball bounced from the racket quite easily. However, there was no real power in the shots. My forehand was considerably slower than with the Revolution and most other strings I've tried in the past. Angled shots were okay, but I really struggled with fast penetrating balls. The fact that my shots were slower also meant that I couldn't really see the benefit of extra spin. Due to the lack of power I was also forced to swing harder than I'm used to which very quickly led to elbow pain. This subsided once I stopped trying to swing like an idiot.

Lastly, the sound that the string makes is absolute garbage imho. Even with a vibration dampener you constantly hear the "toing" sound.

The color, i.e. the overall look of string + racket was by far the best part. Think I'd be prepared to give Solinco 30% more for Revolution 18g if it came in yellow :D
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I'm really surprised at that tension you had trouble with power generation. I hit with a low powered flexy frame and I find WCUC to have quite a bit of power in it. It's not a high powered string, but at lower tensions I have to rely on spin to keep the ball in the court. A typical flat swing with my setup is definitely going long.

Did you string the racquet yourself or have someone else do it for you? What kind of machine was it strung on? I'm convinced with some of the poly strings especially, a lock out or constant pull machine can make a significant difference in the tension needed and the results you get off the stringer. I've strung polys on my Stringway that stretch a ton before clamping. I can only imagine what effect that stretch would have when strung on a lock out by a stringer who didn't know or care to worry about the specific characteristics of such a string.

Did the string feel stiff or soft when hitting normally with it? I understand you ramped up your swing to try to compensate, but before the extra effort how did it feel?
 
Kevo said:
Did you string the racquet yourself or have someone else do it for you? What kind of machine was it strung on?

Did the string feel stiff or soft when hitting normally with it? I understand you ramped up your swing to try to compensate, but before the extra effort how did it feel?
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I didn’t string it myself. This was actually the first stringing job with that particular person. Can’t honestly tell whether they are generally okay or not. I also don’t know what kind of machine they used.

The string felt soft when hitting normally with it. During warmup I felt like I’ll have problems with keeping the shots in. I was getting good depth with the string, it’s just that the shots were slower than I’m used to.

Pretty sure that the type of forehand I play just doesn’t jive well with this string. My shots don’t clear the net by much. They have a good amount of spin, but they go pretty low over the net and are relatively fast. Got a feeling his string plays much better if you’re able to consistently produce deep & high shots with lots of spin.
 
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