Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable - need some feedback

#1
I would like to know what others think about Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable. Below is my review, but I would love to hear from others who have used it.

After eight plus hours of hitting this string, here are my thoughts: Spin potential is off the charts! Usually, most shaped strings don't grab the ball as well as advertised, and do not provide the spin as promised because the strings don't snap back against each other. With UC, I am literally ripped the felt off the ball. The dwell time on the strings is wonderful, and it is causing me to pick up some RPM's, which in turn has allowed me to increase my control. Essentially, all I need to do is whip up, and the strings do the rest.

As for serve, the flat serves are still relatively the same, but my kick serve is jumping considerably higher. No doubt, this is due to the amount of spin I'm getting. My slice serve is also getting more bite. My opponents have noted that my ball is spinning more, thus making it heavier.

The string also feels plus enough for volleys which is not the norm when dealing with a polyester. Though the string doesn't give you anything at the net, it is definitely more than adequate.

Short balls and returns of serve were little to no problem with this string as I felt I could swing out at the ball with little concern about the ball flying long.

For this play test, I strung my Wilson Blade 16x19 pattern at 46 pounds.
 
#3
Very Crisp and not a dead as i was expecting. Has a bit of power for a 'stiff poly' (which i kinda liked - bit of extra omph on the serve). Great spin, for sure. Felt similar to Solinco Tour Bite (my usual) and Black Shark.
52lbs in a Pure Aero Tour.
 

4-string

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#4
Very Crisp and not a dead as i was expecting. Has a bit of power for a 'stiff poly' (which i kinda liked - bit of extra omph on the serve). Great spin, for sure. Felt similar to Solinco Tour Bite (my usual) and Black Shark.
52lbs in a Pure Aero Tour.
Agree, it reminds me of Tour Bite, both in spin and control, but also to the touch. I find it more comfortable than Tour Bite though, and the tension maintenance is probably not as good as TB.
 
#5
Can you guys compare it's power level and tension maintenance to Alu Power? And if you haven't played with Alu, can you compare these characteristics to Hyper-G?
 
#7
Can you guys compare it's power level and tension maintenance to Alu Power? And if you haven't played with Alu, can you compare these characteristics to Hyper-G?
Alu Power is more powerful. I found ultra cable lost its tension very quickly, which was a pity. Ultra cable would be described as crisper, and less power then Hyper G.
Hyper G is softer and has more feel/touch.

Ultra Cable to me is the definition of a crisp string...
 
#8
Can you guys compare it's power level and tension maintenance to Alu Power? And if you haven't played with Alu, can you compare these characteristics to Hyper-G?
Alu is definitely more lively. I feel roughly the same amount of tension loss with both. As far as spin, there is no comparison as Ultra Cable far exceeds Alu Power. I'm thinking about doing a pre-stretch to help with the possible tension loss. This may help the loss, though I'm not a fan of pre-stretching polys.
 
#9
If someone could compare it to Cyclone 19 that would be great also!

Cheers
Cyclone 19 is definitely more lively. Cyclone 19 is my favorite of that line, but the problem I had was with the string breaking. It held up better than what I thought a 19 g would though. I did feel quite a bit of tension loss with Cyclone - more so than I did with Ultra Cable. Ultra Cable is a little less lively than Cyclone 19, but similar in power to Cyclone 17. They both have similar feel though. Very comparable string. I just think over the long haul that Ultra Cable will hold up a bit better than Cyclone 19.
 

Surion

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#11
How about the playability duration?

In my experience some polys retain their playing characteristics even after dropping in tension.

Does this apply to UC?

Very intrigued by this string.

Should play wonderfully in my 97S.
 

Minion

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#12
I had UC in my PD2015 for 2 months before I had it restrung. The only real difference that I could notice, was a drop in crispness, but it still had plenty of spin and control.
 

v-verb

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#13
Cyclone 19 is definitely more lively. Cyclone 19 is my favorite of that line, but the problem I had was with the string breaking. It held up better than what I thought a 19 g would though. I did feel quite a bit of tension loss with Cyclone - more so than I did with Ultra Cable. Ultra Cable is a little less lively than Cyclone 19, but similar in power to Cyclone 17. They both have similar feel though. Very comparable string. I just think over the long haul that Ultra Cable will hold up a bit better than Cyclone 19.
Thanks push2win!

That's excellent feedback - I can agree after 2 wih Cyclone 190 hours for me there was a lot of tension loss.

Can I ask how they compared spinwise? I was good with Cyclone 19 as it lasted 27 hours for me. Just wondering how it compares on spin potential.

Thanks in advance!
 
#14
The UC seems to hold up very well from a play ability standpoint. It rapidly loses tension over the first 2 hours and then gradually declines over the next 10-20 hours. Once I started stringing it way, way higher to start with, the fall off became tolerable. I start at 64 on my crank and it's down to 49 after it comes off the machine. It will decline to ~41 after 1-3 hours and then settle down.
 
#15
How about the playability duration?

In my experience some polys retain their playing characteristics even after dropping in tension.

Does this apply to UC?

Very intrigued by this string.

Should play wonderfully in my 97S.
I found that it does. It has a low stiffness rating (175) which usually means the ball will fly a bit on you because it is a more powerful poly. I didn't find UC to be the case as it never overly sprayed. Plus, having the four sharp edges really grabs the ball at any tension. I think it would definitely be worth a try!
 
#16
Thanks push2win!

That's excellent feedback - I can agree after 2 wih Cyclone 190 hours for me there was a lot of tension loss.

Can I ask how they compared spinwise? I was good with Cyclone 19 as it lasted 27 hours for me. Just wondering how it compares on spin potential.

Thanks in advance!
The spin always maintained regardless of tension because of the sharp edges. As long as I was properly hitting up on the ball, it get it's ball grab. I think they are very comparable when it comes to spin with the slight nod going to UC. However, given the durability advantage there is no question here.
 
#17
The UC seems to hold up very well from a play ability standpoint. It rapidly loses tension over the first 2 hours and then gradually declines over the next 10-20 hours. Once I started stringing it way, way higher to start with, the fall off became tolerable. I start at 64 on my crank and it's down to 49 after it comes off the machine. It will decline to ~41 after 1-3 hours and then settle down.
I found a similar sensation. I string mine low to start with so as funny as this may sound I really don't feel tension loss because (and this is only my opinion) when you string in the mid 40's, there is little different between 43 and 46 pounds. When you string at higher tensions, I feel it is a much more noticeable difference when the tension is say between 60 and 63 pounds.
 

4-string

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#19
After approx 10 hours on the court, some control seem to be gone (or I just had a real bad day, also likely).

RacquetTune measured it at 54lbs off the stringer, now it reads 47.5lbs. Not bad at all!

No notching to report either.
 

v-verb

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#20
The spin always maintained regardless of tension because of the sharp edges. As long as I was properly hitting up on the ball, it get it's ball grab. I think they are very comparable when it comes to spin with the slight nod going to UC. However, given the durability advantage there is no question here.
Thanks push2win - much appreciated!
 
#23
This thread seemed interesting and i ordered the ultra cable string. I use Pure drive Plus and wondering if anyone has tension recommendations. I normally use 58 lbs for my current strngs
 
#24
Hi Tennis_Monk, i strung my Pure Aero Tour at 52lbs, and this worked well for me. One could go a few lbs higher..55lbs maybe, but not much more for me.
As reference i normaly use Solinco Tour Bite at the same tension, or RPM Blast at 55lbs.
 
#27
This thread seemed interesting and i ordered the ultra cable string. I use Pure drive Plus and wondering if anyone has tension recommendations. I normally use 58 lbs for my current strngs
If you've played with poly at that tension, you can keep it there. This is a softer poly, so the tighter tension won't be bad. However, I have found that the lower it is strung the better it performs. I would try your first run with it at your tension that you are comfortable with.
 
#29
If you've played with poly at that tension, you can keep it there. This is a softer poly, so the tighter tension won't be bad. However, I have found that the lower it is strung the better it performs. I would try your first run with it at your tension that you are comfortable with.
i currently use alu power rough at 58 lbs and i prefer higher tensions. Looking for a bit more control and pop.
 

Mareqnyc

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#30
My first date with UC (copied from my other thread) here we go:

First impressions of Ultra Cable:

Yet another baseline sluggers string. I like. I toss it in the same drawer with the TourBites and Hyper G's of the string world.

Played a 45 minute groundstroke warmup (some volleys and serves as well) followed by three long sets in a 105 degree weather, empty courts - everyone in their right minds played in the morning.
We were sweating like priests in Toy's R US :D:D:D

They should rename this string Weiscannon Cheese Grater. Stringing this thing was a pain in the arse. It has the highest spin potential according to TW lab and it certainly delivers in this area but I found Gamma Zo Verve giving more spin but I attribute that to Verve being lower powered and I would simply go for more on me shots.

the goods: Power ( a tad higher than your "low" power poly), comfort (way better than Tour Bite, a bit better than Hyper G), great control and spin as expected.
the bads: slices ( UC "overgrabs" the ball sometimes and I had issues controlling slice depth; my slices are very solid. this could be adjusted in time perhaps but certainly did not promote confidence). Touch shots were crap as well, drop shots quite terrible.

It is a solid, thick string with great spin. Not sure if I could switch to this, wish they made it thinner.

Will see how it behaves after 5-6 hrs.
 
#32
finally , was able to play with Ultra cable. My regular setup is Pure drive + with Alu power rough at 58 lbs. I had ultra cable at 58 lbs as well.
For most part, they both played the same for me. Ultra cable had a bit more spin and i was able to go for bit more. Serves, best part of my game aren't that effective. Ultra cable had slightly better feel than Rough.
 
#33
Played ultra cable today in my graphene radical pro. I found the power to be average for a poly. I found the spin to be really good as long as my stroke was good. If I hitted the ball more flat the control was horrible and the spin as well ofc. I felt the comfort was below average for a poly. Can't say too much about the tension maintance and the durability. Overall, the string delivers great work if you hit the ball well, but if you hitted the ball slightly off or flat I found it to be a horrible string.
 
#34
any more recent feedback? I just purchased a pack of this string and i'm eagerly awaiting the post like a child waiting on santa. I want to see what people thought of this string further into their playtests because a lot of what i've read has been initial impressions.
 
#38
To me UC feels fairly unique including the sound on impact (WOOSH); muted, average power at best and therefore tons of control. Surprisingly comfortable in my opinion, probably because the strings are quite soft according to TWU. Combine that with the huge spin potential and it's made for throwing bombs. I'm constantly monitoring tension loss but according to RacquetTune it's almost the same as Hyper-G and B5E.

The potential drawbacks are the weight of the string (high) and tension loss, although the latter I noticed only with one set of strings for some reason.

It's also quite cheap; I bought a reel for 75€ in Germany.
 
#39
Interesting that you all feel that UC is very crisp - I had Weiss Cannon B5E in my other DR98 and for me that was the definition of crisp, very very different from UC.
 
#41
Ok... so my initial findings after trying this in a full bed on my dr 98. Crisp, yes. Spin, DEFINITELY THERE. That's it though. Not much to write home about. Call me crazy but as I was stringing it, the string felt a lot thicker than 1.23mm or whatever it says on the package. I had some difficulty pushing the string through open string holes... Anyways, i'm not a fan. Will be sticking to my tried and true Volkl Cyclone hybrid.
 
#46
Hello everybody. I would like to share my opinion too. Also, I would love to hear some other string tips from all of you. I want to buy a new tennis gear and want to make the best choice possible. :)

Since 2011 I have been playing with HEAD IG SPEED MP 315 16x19, 315 grams unstrung, 310 mm balance, 645 cm2/100 sq in headsize, 20 mm beam width, mostly strung with HEAD SONIC PRO 1.30 mm/GAUGE 16 at 22/23 kilos which is approx. 48/51 lbs.
I am a 6.0 / 6.5 NTRP nationally ranked and starting playing ITF Futures qualies. Studying at the college now.

As I have been been testing over 25 frames/rackets recently, I have also tried various different string. Through the Tennis Warehouse University, I came to the decision of ordering couple of string types including WEISS CANNON ULTRA CABLE, RED GHOST, KIRSCHBAUM MAX POWER ROUGH AND WILSON REVOLVE. Before that, I had also tried Luxilon Alu Power 1.25 16L, Volkl Cyclone 1.25 16L and Volkl V-Star 1.25 16L, Solinco Hyper-G 1.25 16L and Solinco Tour Bite 1.25 16L. I tested all of these strings because of great ratings. Cyclone and Tour Bite were my favourite ones from those. Luxilon ALU Power dissapointed me in terms of comfort (too stiff), spin (not enough), neither the power; control was solid though.

Last week, I had my first hit with WEISS CANNON ULTRA CABLE. I have to say that it is probably one of the best strings available. It offers probably the best spin (Due to the TWU spin potential over 11 I ordered this string), above average control, average power for a co-poly, nice comfort (stiffness TWU: 175 lb/in), and decent durability. I had it strung at 21.5/22.5 kilos and consider ordering whole new reel.

Do you have any other tips for me? I look for a string that offers enough spin, control and comfort. However, I can handle low powered ones.
 
#47
Im playing with the Yonex PTP 120 now. Gives the Ultra Cable more spin than YPTP 120 but gives it the same control and feel?

What is the diffrence between Ultra Cable, Red Ghost and Blue Rock n Power?
I want to try these strings or maybe a Hybrid with WC in mains and YPTP 120 in cross.
 
#48
redGHOST is thin gauge, high power and 6-8 edges, ultra cable is thicker low power than redGHOST and has 4 sharp that adds more spin than red, the new BlueRock n Power is thinner than UC thicker than RG it has squarish profile gives as much or more spin as UC power is higher than UC but lower than RG.
 
#49
redGHOST is thin gauge, high power and 6-8 edges, ultra cable is thicker low power than redGHOST and has 4 sharp that adds more spin than red, the new BlueRock n Power is thinner than UC thicker than RG it has squarish profile gives as much or more spin as UC power is higher than UC but lower than RG.
Im thinking. If the Ultra Cable is to low powered and I want to make a hybrid with Yonex PTP 120 then another option is to play with the Blue Rock n Power....
BRNP is almost the same but a thinner and more powerfull string...
 
#50
Im thinking. If the Ultra Cable is to low powered and I want to make a hybrid with Yonex PTP 120 then another option is to play with the Blue Rock n Power....
BRNP is almost the same but a thinner and more powerfull string...
yes that would solve that problem, it is worth trying
you will never know with strings till you try it for yourself.
 
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