were the 70´s the peak of mankind?

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chrischris

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Club of Rome had/has a member of the conservative party in Sweden. A guy who could allow the facts of science meet the idea of business that works without destroying in the process.
The idea that it is ( business = destroying nature) inevitable is a lazy mans myth.
 
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One famous quote of Evil Kissinger (jewish roots)in the 70 when talking about CIA implemented Latam military dictatorships
" I know they are a bunch of Mother.****ers
but at least they are our Mother.****ers"
 
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chrischris

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kiki said:
Time and Newsweek are business friendly and full of Chicago Boyzzz...
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Not good as sources for scientific issues.
The cutting edge and quality is in peer reviewed publications.
Scientific American, Nature ,Science for example.
They are better just as the top 5 in tennis are quality that when they play others their games are examined and pass the test , time and time again, Thats peer review in tennis.

The others are more into sensationalism and selling copy. A bit like One hit wonders in tennis.
 
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GuyClinch

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Muscle Cars peaked in late 60's very early 70s.

After 71 it was all down hill in the car world - so taking credit for muscle cars in the 70s is not accurate. 70s music was pretty strong - but 60s seems better. I did like that 70's show though.. :p
 
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GuyClinch said:
Muscle Cars peaked in late 60's very early 70s.

After 71 it was all down hill in the car world - so taking credit for muscle cars in the 70s is not accurate. 70s music was pretty strong - but 60s seems better. I did like that 70's show though.. :p
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Recall the Porsche 914, BMW 2002 & 320i from the 70s
 
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chrischris

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The 70s Music was the best .. also the clothes were less predictable and boring.
Folks were less streamlined and put into target market Groups like the Young are today. Poor *******s.:)
 
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chrischris said:
The 70s Music was the best .. also the clothes were less predictable and boring.
Folks were less streamlined and put into target market Groups like the Young are today. Poor *******s.:)
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the old music, the 80s too had good music. the youth itself was always trying to shock other people at that time.
 
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TennisCJC

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I turned 14 in late 1970 but cannot say the 70s were the greatest decade.

I would probably go with the 1960s, 1940s, or even 1930s before the 1970.

1960s: my 1st choice - society changed dramatically going from authoritarian 1950s to the hippie counter culture. Civil rights advances, anti-war movements, free-love, recreational drugs, Stones, Beatles, and the dawn of Zeppelin.

1940s: 2nd choice, WW II and no need to say much more. The impact of the war on millions, the sacrifices and ultimately the defeat of Hitler are historically huge.

1930s: Great Depression after the 1929 stock market crash. Big change from Big Boss ruling class conservatism to Roosevelts New Deal to help the poor and working class.

1970s: started great as an extension to the 1960s but then we transitioned to disco and cocaine addiction. Politics and impact on the culture were not as great as the 1960s.
 
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IN the 60´s society had big dreams: Kennedy,Pope John XXIII, Che.
and May 68
In the 70´s society, while still drawning from 60´s ideals became more individualistic and cinnical.
 
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kiki said:
IN the 60´s society had big dreams: ....
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Nah, only the teenagers and twentyteens on drugs did!

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Some place I read that Nixon was required to clean up a bit the mess of the 60´s in the US.Did you live that situation?
 
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Some place I read that Nixon was required to clean up a bit the mess of the 60´s in the US.Did you live that situation?
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"Tin soldiers and Nixon coming
We're finally on our own
This summer I hear the drumming
Four dead in Ohio"

Yeah, the 70's got off to a real housecleaning by Nixon on May 4, 1970.
 
kiki

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As somebody mentioned before here, the 70´s was the Golden Era ( if we can call it in a sense) of ideologic terrorism.It began in the 60´s but blossomed 10 yrs later.It was strictly ideological, nothing to see with Islamism/Religion and very selective ( not massive scale)

Rotten Army Fraktion,ETA,GRAPO,Brigate Rosse,IRA, OLP/Black September, some US and Japanese groups but also their opposite: far right wingers in South America and South Europe (Greece,Italy and Spain had big far right terrorist groups)

Seems like the islamic countries changed from ideological to religious terrorism.
 
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chrischris

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It was perhaps a decade in which true and realistic approach to economics and the home of all Life was still appreciated.
Nowadays it seems the love of illusions is ruling.
 
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chrischris said:
It was perhaps a decade in which true and realistic approach to economics and the home of all Life was still appreciated.
Nowadays it seems the love of illusions is ruling.
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those who live by illusions and appearances might fall and lose to themselves, but anyway, they care too much about how the others see them, who would they be alone? would they really be successful at all?
 
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chrischris

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those who live by illusions and appearances might fall and lose to themselves, but anyway, they care too much about how the others see them, who would they be alone? would they really be successful at all?
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True, they can use others as mere mirrors of their illuision of themsleves being so great maybe? for 'verification ' of their perceived 'greatness'?
 
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70s was a mess i.e post #120.

It was a decade of extremes and the consequences of that are still going.
 
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It's well known that Nixon's 'war on drugs' functioned to suppress political dissent by criminalising drugs unfasionable among the elite.

kiki said:
Some place I read that Nixon was required to clean up a bit the mess of the 60´s in the US.Did you live that situation?
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Generation fights all over.In the US, that was expressed in rejecting one of the smartest US Presidents and using in a very interested way the facts of May 1970
 
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Bartelby said:
The seventies were unreachable at the level of crushed hopes. The eilite re-learnt how to crack the whip and turn the citizens into subjects once more. Punk came to parody the despair and the terror.
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That could be right but in relative terms.

I think there are two eras in within the 70´s.The first half, about 70-74 which continued the late 60´s revolutions or lived upon its fruits.And the second half, say 75-79 more or less, which prepared the way to the 1980´s reaction.As Bartleby well said, Punk music is the epithome of that.

It also reflects the evolution of Led Zepp.

Yes, Zeppelin was the decade´s thermometer.Physichal grafiti dividend the era in two parts.
 
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chrischris

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kiki said:
That could be right but in relative terms.

I think there are two eras in within the 70´s.The first half, about 70-74 which continued the late 60´s revolutions or lived upon its fruits.And the second half, say 75-79 more or less, which prepared the way to the 1980´s reaction.As Bartleby well said, Punk music is the epithome of that.

It also reflects the evolution of Led Zepp.

Yes, Zeppelin was the decade´s thermometer.Physichal grafiti dividend the era in two parts.
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Seems reasonable to me :) Wherein lays the current reaction to the last 10 years or so??
 
kiki

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chrischris said:
What reaction do you mean , can you describe it please?
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I understood that you asked how did we got to the current point and my humble opinion is that it starts at the end of Cold War.I maybe wrong but it is my firm belief.Maybe I didn´t understand your question.
 
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GBplayer

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kiki said:
That could be right but in relative terms.

I think there are two eras in within the 70´s.The first half, about 70-74 which continued the late 60´s revolutions or lived upon its fruits.And the second half, say 75-79 more or less, which prepared the way to the 1980´s reaction.As Bartleby well said, Punk music is the epithome of that.

It also reflects the evolution of Led Zepp.

Yes, Zeppelin was the decade´s thermometer.Physichal grafiti dividend the era in two parts.
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I was at a Sex Pistols concert when the sound system failed, enter a big bearded hippie to fix it. Someone in the crowd yelled " never trust a hippie " caused great amusement!
 
kiki

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It was an era of constant social and cultural changes.In the US baby boomers made the economy expand but there was a sense of social build up where corporations and trade unions ( which were strong then) could deal things out.There were opportunities in the new economy while the old one kept their big corporations fighting for market share in a changing that involved cultural and social changes that would be hard to explain to current kid and much less be understood by the last two generations.

The 60´s shaped the 70´s in a way.The 80´s were a reaction against the 70´s as well.Then, the post material world and the globalisation began to change the rules at the beginning of the 90´s and till now.

In the rest of the western world, there was a well cemented social market economy ( and Britain,Germany,Japan,France,Canada,Italy and the whole rest went by the very same standarts until Thatcher took power in the UK).

The Vietnam war as well as the Paris riots were the examples of what I mean and, I do not remember who said that " magmatic movements take part when the old is not still dead and the new is not still born"
As I say, umpossible for the ones born from 1975 onwards to really understand.A complete different society in many forms and ways than that they have been living.
 
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