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GMP’s drive BH is weak and he tries his best to not hit it.Everyone on tour.
GMP’s drive BH is weak and he tries his best to not hit it.Everyone on tour.
Its quite unusual for a OHBH player to use a PD. Guess the stiffness of that frame really helps with the pop.
One of the most exciting players for a while and taking scalps. I'm tipping him for the win in Brisbane.It's for his serve which reminds me of a smooth version of Roddick's serve.
I play real man tennis.now that C's game is approaching his peak tennis...
what we need is someone else who needs massive fixing, that will get the coaches excited, e.g. the BMG.
can someone maybe convince @dannyslicer to fix his shyt game? he's not talking to me anymore.
since I'm also a psychiatric expert... the reason he starts so many junker threads is that deep down he wants to be a 'real man' style player, but knowing the challenges ahead to build a 'real tennis' game, he's trying to get the community's confirmation that copping out as a junker is somewhat ok.. plus he's underestimating the work needed to be a good junker.
Why don't we keep that particular car in its own garage.I play real man tennis.
I get my ass kicked by 4.5 junkers like MEP
Hence, big respect.
Playing basher tennis is easy.
Being a junker takes decades of work.
It does not when you've lived all your life junking because you've never learnt anything better (technique-wise and not winning-wise).Being a junker takes decades of work.
Why don't we keep that particular car in its own garage.
No need to contaminate this thread with that nonsense.
I would love to see Djokovic pick on his bh if they ever face each other.
I think Opelka has tested Perricard's 1hb enough tonight for us to see its flaw. Don't even need Djokovic.
not sure to call it a flaw. it's an old school small-degree- ESR linear bh. similar to F Lopez and Gonzo... a disadvantage in today's high spin game. but they hide it well enough behind big serves/fhs.
among the old time greats Edberg, Mac and PistolP have this style; while Becker and Lendl have more modern looking ESR action.
the only advantage for this old school bh today is faster access to the net. reason why the Bryans used this style very well in dubs.
Watch again, its as modern as it gets. Think Federer, Musetti.
But he doesn't have adequate drop so end up looking very linear without much spin and hard to generate depth on the shot especially in the cross court direction. Much prefer flat down the line strikes off shortish balls. Sound familiar @Curious ?
end of their ESRs. about 90 degree difference. the shallow drop is related, less ISR, therefore less ESR.
not adequate? maybe maybe not, that's how he was tot to hit. old school.
this is unrelated to @Curious issue prior to the fix, which was flipping.
no pro can flip their way to the top rankings.
I don't mind whether C flips or not. It's his drop that is the issue. If C had an adequate drop then he will work out the forward swing eventually.
The racquet tip is up after take back. The racquet head drops and pronation/ISR happens during drop phase. The racquet immediately moves to contact naturally turning the ISR/pronation, it was loaded with, to ESR/supination. Not much attention needs to be paid to ww motion via the thumb. Your thumb drill nonsense is the definition of flipping.I have explained this many times already. When a player is flipping he cannot drop deep because the face would be even MORE OPEN. the brain desperately wants to save the embarrassment of hitting a ball over the back fence so it tells the hand better stop this deep drop bs and get the flipping started. That was the reason C couldn’t drop deep
Now that the flipping is fixed, the drop will be deeper. All my guys do. After the brains realizes there is no more risk of missing the swing will become more aggressive.
All kinds of inputs before asking him to coil to drop deep to stride etc. all of these things can only happen after the racket face is under control.
I have a thread called teach the hand first. The hand needs to have pure ww first. Otherwise any additional power from the rest of the KC will be leaked.
I think I was on the right track here in terms of drop mechanism, ie waiting with the racket tip up until I’m ready to drop and swing as a single dynamic motion. So basically I need to do a deeper version of this , which can only happen if I have enough time. When timing is rushed, the drop will be shallow.I don't mind whether C flips or not. It's his drop that is the issue. If C had an adequate drop then he will work out the forward swing eventually.
The racquet tip is up after take back. The racquet head drops and pronation/ISR happens during drop phase. The racquet immediately moves to contact naturally turning the ISR/pronation, it was loaded with, to ESR/supination. Not much attention needs to be paid to ww motion via the thumb. Your thumb drill nonsense is the definition of flipping.
The OP’s problem is that he never gets into a deep ISR/pronation position..
For my money there's still too much arm which accounts for the variance in output and also makes it more susceptible to breaking down.I think I was on the right track here in terms of drop mechanism, ie waiting with the racket tip up until I’m ready to drop and swing as a single dynamic motion. So basically I need to do a deeper version of this , which can only happen if I have enough time. When timing is rushed, the drop will be shallow.
At the moment the ww action may not be 100% pure.For my money there's still too much arm which accounts for the variance in output and also makes it more susceptible to breaking down.
I'd like to see a more grooved repeatable stroke. So prep early, lock & **** the frame until your chin touches your shoulder and let it do more of the work.
I'm trying to implement this lady's teaching (youtube below). I think it's very credible. What do you think?going to bed now so I am gonna leave a gem here..
lets talk about the fh for a second - since both C and @user92626 have good fh swing path but timing issues.
and answers from anybody will be appreciated.
not going off track. this topic is related to C's 1hb.
the question is -
after padding the dog, what muscle(s) are used to create the ESR in the fh?
I'm trying to implement this lady's teaching (youtube below). I think it's very credible. What do you think?
About timing, I played with such a wide range of "talents". After a while I got bored and got lazy with prep and timing.
On top of that I don't do practice rallies anymore. Don't bother with proper warm-up anymore which even my regular friend comments on it.
I don't mind eating humble pie and going back to beginning practing crude timing technique. LOL In fact at lunch table, when my friend asked why I suddenly stopped missing, I told them I was reciting a timing device so I wouldn't be late.
@10sbeast888 you're like me in this area. We don't mind sharing tips if we think they're helpful.
What are the different timings?was taking a guess, but perhaps your timing issue is different from C's.
What are the different timings?
I’m pretty sure I know what to do. I just need the proper timing to do it right. See how he immediately gets ready to swing as soon as he comes out of the split step. That transition is too slow in my bh.ok back to regular programming about timing.
@Curious - before I reveal the big secret.... have you tried to use the thumb drill to actually play on court.. either co-op hit or scored, just randomly throw in a thumb shot at +20 deg face angle, no need to footwork, coil, KC all that.
in a way this instantly solves the timing issue as you are just moving a thumb... and the real solution is related to this.
'just moving a thumb' is the feel. the 'real' is that ISR does happen if you are relaxed.
I’m pretty sure I know what to do. I just need the proper timing to do it right. See how he immediately gets ready to swing as soon as he comes out of the split step. That transition is too slow in my bh.
Yes, makes perfect sense!in 'feel' though, there is no '2'. so ironically, the way to drop deeper, is to NOT do it at all!
when you are tip up at the 1 position, fire the KC immediately. if the hand is slightly below the ball, it will push on bevel 6. and due to initeria the racket head drops.
makes sense?
Finally it’s clicking for the Wii tennis coach. Very good.Oh my!
It may not work straight, as it doesn’t for C and some other players who have that “wrap” forward swing on BH — bending the elbow as they uncoil.when you are tip up at the 1 position, fire the KC immediately. if the hand is slightly below the ball, it will push on bevel 6. and due to initeria the racket head drops.
It may not work straight, as it doesn’t for C and some other players who have that “wrap” forward swing on BH — bending the elbow as they uncoil.
For RH drop to happen naturally one needs to put the hand into proper slot, so that he accelerates up and out, not down to the ball, neither straight forward from behind the ball. Or “inertia” works the wrong way.
One shouldn’t drop racquet head consciously, that’s for sure. But one shall drop his both hands with racquet to set proper “slot” position to lead acceleration with the dominant hand.
PS There’s a chance to just swing from tip-up position IF one is very good with positioning and orienting his whole body and posture against the incoming ball. And kind of do one same swing for every ball, while adopting the spine tilt, leg bend, “weight transfer” direction. But it’s quite a demand to fulfill.
Timing problems in rec tennis come from bad ball recognition. Many times that is due to surface court change, partner of very different playing styles switching, or even opening a new can of balls after being used to a set of old slow balls.
It's in the brain's circuitry and not in the technique, most likely.
Yes, something like this. When I have enough time ‘2’ (drop) will happen naturally and combined with 3. I’m still a bit late in my turn and take back.let's see how C does with the new tempo of "1-3", without the '2'.
Yes, I agree. Yet one needs to hit that point from which he can deliver via the thumb.the slot can be trained with the thumb drill, therefore I'd like him to try it on the court.
I think it looks better with good net clearance.Yes, something like this. When I have enough time ‘2’ (drop) will happen naturally and combined with 3. I’m still a bit late in my turn and take back.
Yes, something like this. When I have enough time ‘2’ (drop) will happen naturally and combined with 3. I’m still a bit late in my turn and take back.
The opponent has good disguise in terms of hitting with topspin or slice, hard to tell what he'll do
He’s a great player, one of the best juniors in Victoria 60 years ago. We were practicing for his match against a top pro at AO today! He is one of 8 male rec players selected for the new ‘1 point slam’ activity. $60,000 prize money!The opponent has good disguise in terms of hitting with topspin or slice, hard to tell what he'll do
The opponent has good disguise in terms of hitting with topspin or slice, hard to tell what he'll do
Biggest thing I see is that you're not using the lower body at all in your kinetic chain, basically arming the shot. You can see your left heel raises up after your shots because you're using that back leg to counterbalance all the muscling you're doing with your arm as they rotate opposite to each other around the axis of rotation of your right leg.
The guy hits surprisingly well considering he looks like he was there when tennis was inventedThe opponent has good disguise in terms of hitting with topspin or slice, hard to tell what he'll do
Made C feel so young he wore his cap backwards.The guy hits surprisingly well considering he looks like he was there when tennis was invented![]()
You’re the arming police, yeah?Biggest thing I see is that you're not using the lower body at all in your kinetic chain, basically arming the shot. You can see your left heel raises up after your shots because you're using that back leg to counterbalance all the muscling you're doing with your arm as they rotate opposite to each other around the axis of rotation of your right leg.
You should start with a hip drive initiated from the left leg pushing against the ground, then using that energy to loop into the rest of your swing. This will add some milliseconds to the stroke and may be completely different timing for you adjust to though.
It makes you feel younger regardless of the opponent.Made C feel so young he wore his cap backwards.
You are giving this advice to the wrong guy. Some coaches at my club had a good time with these pearls of wisdom. We are having fun with the recent ‘swing down on the serve’ thread also although there is concern he will give himself ‘golfers elbow’.Biggest thing I see is that you're not using the lower body at all in your kinetic chain, basically arming the shot. You can see your left heel raises up after your shots because you're using that back leg to counterbalance all the muscling you're doing with your arm as they rotate opposite to each other around the axis of rotation of your right leg.
You should start with a hip drive initiated from the left leg pushing against the ground, then using that energy to loop into the rest of your swing. This will add some milliseconds to the stroke and may be completely different timing for you adjust to though.
Weight transfer, interesting concept. Do you really need it unless you want to approach the net? Could forward weight transfer be a bad idea like backward weight transfer? Everything goes out the window if you don’t have clean contact and the right racket face at contact. People always talk about how crucial it is to keep the head still during the forward swing. So that’s important but keeping the whole body still is not?!
This will do, too.
The use of 'Weight transfer' in teaching tennis should be banned!
Rotation. Rotation. Rotation.
If it was possible to place the palm of your hand lightly on Nadal's forehead ( not forehand!) would you feel his weight pushing you towards the net during his forehand swing?? No.
What I understand from just rotating and rotating plus weight transfer. I repeat, I say it’s unnecessary for the rec player as they’re already struggling with the most crucial things in tennis: clean contact+ the right racket face angle at contact. With weight transfer you’re adding another motion which could ruin the above.