What age/year will Djokovic/Nadal stop winning slams?

ADuck

ADuck

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For fun I'm going to try to use Federer's age as the main predictor.

Federer:
Slam winning form range: 2003-2019 (17 years)
Age of last slam-winning form year: 37-38 years old

Nadal:
Current slam-winning form range: 2005-2022 (18 years)
Current age of last slam-winning form year: 35-36 years old
Age predicted last slam year: 2024 (Will be same age as Federer)
Age-range predicted last slam year: 2021 (Exceeded Federer's range)

Djokovic:
Current slam winning form range: 2008-2023 (16 years)
Current age of last slam-winning form year: 35-36 years old
Age predicted last slam year: 2025 (if age cannot exceed Federer)
Age-range predicted last slam year: 2024-2025 (If range cannot exceed Nadal or Federer's)
 
Djokodalerer31

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For Djokovic and Nadal it's different! The circumstances are different! Djokovic can keep going and will remain in his slam winning form for as long as he holds the racquet, but in Nadal's case - his collection of injuries affect his level greatly as he cannot adjust on the fly and deal with all those injuries, like Novak manages to! Nadal will stop winning slams if not this season or the next one, then by 2025 for absolutely damn certain! I can bet my house, wife and basically all personal belongings on that! Djokovic on another hand can keep them winning (not necessary has to be multiple per season...but one is enough...) until he is like 40 or something...LOL
...And please note, that we are talking about "slam winning form" and not "having a guaranteed at least one slam per season..." as per your Federer 2019 example! In that regard Djokovic will be prime contender for at least one grand slam title per season for the next 4 or 5 years! Nadal for just a couple more of them...I can see Novak being frequent guest in semi-finals and even finals of Wimbledon and Australian Open until 2028 or something...doesn't mean he will be winning all those instances...but just saying...
 
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canta_Brian

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Djokodalerer31 said:
For Djokovic and Nadal it's different! The circumstances are different! Djokovic can keep going and will remain in his slam winning form for as long as he holds the racquet, but in Nadal's case - his collection of injuries affect his level greatly as he cannot adjust on the fly and deal with all those injuries, like Novak manages to! Nadal will stop winning slam if not this season or the next one, then by 2025 for absolutely damn certain! I can bet my house, wife and basically all personal belongings on that! Djokovic on another hand can keep them winning (not necessary has to be multiple per season...but one is enough...) until he is like 40 or something...LOL
...And please note, that we are talking about "slam winning form" and not "having a guaranteed at least one slam per season..." as per your Federer 2019 example! In that regard Djokovic will be prime contender for at least one grand slam title per season for the next 4 or 5 years! Nadal for just a couple more of them...
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Nadal’s injuries are more difficult to overcome because they are real
 
Djokodalerer31

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canta_Brian said:
Nadal’s injuries are more difficult to overcome because they are real
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You have no solid proofNovak is faking his injuries (you or anyone who accuses him of doing so!)...all you do is keep throwing accusations without any evidence or proof whatsoever, because it fits your narrative! Believe whatever you want to believe...
 
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Silverbullet96

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I don't think any of us have a clue really, we will only know when it's already happened. At the moment Nadal is injured but can come back again like he has done a million times before, who knows, and as for Djokovic he might be the fittest Tennis player ever, there's no reason at the moment to think that he is declining in fitness/form, you can think of him as a 20 year old, it will make no difference.
 
zvelf

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Nadal is already older now at 36.7 years old than when Federer won his last major in 2018 at 36.5. The oldest person to ever win a major is Ken Rosewall at 37.2 when he won the Australian in 1972 when only 1 other top 10 player participated. I doubt Nadal can surpass that record. He has a shot at Roland Garros this year, but even then he'll need a favorable draw. He's not going through Djokovic, Alcaraz, and Tsitsipas in a row. So I say Nadal has 1 more good shot at a slam. Barring injury, Djokovic will have reasonable chances at every major through Wimbledon 2024, but I expect to see decline after that.
 
Djokodalerer31

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D.Nalby12 said:
This looks like last year for Nadal or he might have already won his last.

Djokovic will go strong for two more years. I can see him winning slam in 2025.
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I'll go with the same prediction! Nadal is done either this or the next season, while Novak will still have a shot even by 2025! (but nothing too ridiculous though like 2026, 2027 or even 2028!...) maybe the last deep lucky run in 2025 with favourable draw and barely walking in the end...a Sampras-like 2002 run at the USO, where he "varely survived" in 3 close 5-set matches back-to-back and got his favourite pigeon Agassi in the final (who amongst other things was out of his prime...)
 
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Djokodalerer31 said:
I'll go with the same prediction! Nadal is done either this or the next season, while Novak will still have a shot even by 2025! (but nothing too ridiculous though like 2026, 2027 or even 2028!...) maybe the last deep lucky run in 2025 with favourable draw and barely walking in the end...a Sampras-like 2002 run at the USO, where he "varely survived" in 3 close 5-set matches back-to-back and got his favourite pigeon Agassi in the final (who amongst other things was out of his prime...)
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I will be extremely surprised if Djoko wins anything less than 25 slams in the end. He is that good.
 
Fedeonic

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I think Djokovic can last up to the early 40s if he keeps "healthy", and Alcaraz and Rune don't grow to compete toe-to-toe day-yes-day-yes against him.
For Nadal, Roland Garros 2023 will be either his final Slam title or the beginning of the end.
 
mike danny

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Djokodalerer31 said:
You have no solid prove Novak is faking his injuries (you or anyone who accuses him of doing so!)...all you do is keep throwing accusations without any evidence or proof whatsoever, because it fits your narrative! Believe whatever you want to believe...
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Novak's injuries aren't serious, that's all we can conclude as of now.
 
mike danny

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zvelf said:
Nadal is already older now at 36.7 years old than when Federer won his last major in 2018 at 36.5. The oldest person to ever win a major is Ken Rosewall at 37.2 when he won the Australian in 1972 when only 1 other top 10 player participated. I doubt Nadal can surpass that record. He has a shot at Roland Garros this year, but even then he'll need a favorable draw. He's not going through Djokovic, Alcaraz, and Tsitsipas in a row. So I say Nadal has 1 more good shot at a slam. Barring injury, Djokovic will have reasonable chances at every major through Wimbledon 2024, but I expect to see decline after that.
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Djokodal never get difficult draws nowadays, so I doubt Nadal will have such a draw to navigate at the French.
 
zvelf

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mike danny said:
Djokodal never get difficult draws nowadays, so I doubt Nadal will have such a draw to navigate at the French.
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Nadal's 2022 RG draw was moderately difficult with FAA, Djokovic, and Zverev, although he had a freebie with Zverev's injury and having Ruud in the final. If 2023 RG Nadal is playing anywhere close to his level at the beginning of this year, he would not get past his 2022 RG draw.
 
DSH

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zvelf said:
Nadal is already older now at 36.7 years old than when Federer won his last major in 2018 at 36.5. The oldest person to ever win a major is Ken Rosewall at 37.2 when he won the Australian in 1972 when only 1 other top 10 player participated. I doubt Nadal can surpass that record. He has a shot at Roland Garros this year, but even then he'll need a favorable draw. He's not going through Djokovic, Alcaraz, and Tsitsipas in a row. So I say Nadal has 1 more good shot at a slam. Barring injury, Djokovic will have reasonable chances at every major through Wimbledon 2024, but I expect to see decline after that.
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No, the oldest player to win a Major tournament with 128 participants, 7 matches, 21 sets, was Bill Tilden at Wimbledon 1930 at 37 years and almost five months.
That is the real record.
8-B
 
tennis_error

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ADuck said:
For fun I'm going to try to use Federer's age as the main predictor.

Federer:
Slam winning form range: 2003-2019 (17 years)
Age of last slam-winning form year: 37-38 years old

Nadal:
Current slam-winning form range: 2005-2022 (18 years)
Current age of last slam-winning form year: 35-36 years old
Age predicted last slam year: 2024 (Will be same age as Federer)
Age-range predicted last slam year: 2021 (Exceeded Federer's range)

Djokovic:
Current slam winning form range: 2008-2023 (16 years)
Current age of last slam-winning form year: 35-36 years old
Age predicted last slam year: 2025 (if age cannot exceed Federer)
Age-range predicted last slam year: 2024-2025 (If range cannot exceed Nadal or Federer's)
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When will you guys acknowledge that all this age bs that we read for years here is just plain bs? I mean, haven't you already learnt?
 
CoolCoolCool

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DSH said:
No tennis player is going to win a Major tournament with 38 years or more, not even your idol with his 'magic potions'.
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True, nobody ever came close to winning Wimbledon at 38. Absolutely nobody and certainly not someone Djokovic himself beat.
 
djokovic the conqueror

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Djokovic will be winning more slams this year and beyond.
Nadal is done winning slams and Djokovic will make sure of that when he wins slam 23 at Roland Garros.
 
Rafa4LifeEver

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Just like Federer, when father time finally stops them as well.
They're way too good for anyone to stop them other then themselves to be honest, plus the young competition has been in a state of pure vacuum (particularly on grass & HC) since many years now, except probably Alcaraz & Sinner who both seem to be highly injury prone.
 
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D.Nalby12

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Rafa4LifeEver said:
Just like Federer, when father time finally stops them as well.
They're way too good for anyone to stop them other then themselves to be honest, plus the young competition has been in a state of pure vacuum (particularly on grass & HC) since many years now, except probably Alcaraz & Sinner who both seem to be highly injury prone.
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And which new clay court legend has made breakthrough in last few years? Remind me.
 
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