What age/year will Djokovic/Nadal stop winning slams?

Its his problem. It means he is not good as djokovic when it comes to fitness and taking care of his body.
Nadal fans as usual complaining about their hero's imaginary injuries when their guy has made of career out of dominating the most physically demanding surface for almost two decades along with 14 freaking RG titles on slow as molasses courts.

He's one of the most durable athletes in history. Notice how there is no talk of injuries from Nadal when he steps on the mud. Shrewd fellow is always fit to play on clay but conveniently gets injured (esp. when losing) on other surfaces.
 
I don't see Nole defeating Nadal at RG this year.
How do you not? Nadal lost like 7 of his last 9 matches or something last I heard recently and the only 2 wins which were poor wins like one was ruud resting for the finals or whatever the circumstance was. Meanwhile Djokovic looking as good as ever with monstrous AO performance. Doesnt sound like Nadal can win even on clay. Oh and he's gonna be injured for a while and will have no time to get in form when he was already never in form

If you think Nadal beats him this year you must've been really sure he beats him in '21 but you were wrong
 
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Nadal fans as usual complaining about their hero's imaginary injuries when their guy has made of career out of dominating the most physically demanding surface for almost two decades along with 14 freaking RG titles on slow as molasses courts.

He's one of the most durable athletes in history. Notice how there is no talk of injuries from Nadal when he steps on the mud. Shrewd fellow is always fit to play on clay but conveniently gets injured (esp. when losing) on other surfaces.
That would be because RG is the only super special place he goes above and beyond focusing on staying healthy and being in top form for. What you're saying is exactly why he gets injured a lot too much stress on the body thats why everyone thought his career would be short but he just keeps dealing with lots of injuries and healing them for many years now. Also actually he had a foot injury in clay season last year
 
And which new clay court legend has made breakthrough in last few years? Remind me.
Agreed that the competition for the last, oh I’d say, 7-10 years (Lost Gen, Next Gen, can we please have a gen. ? Any gen’ll do) across ALL surfaces has lacked in a serious way, uh …you can’t exactly have a clay court challenger—much less legend— when confronted with the most dominant surface dominating player ever in Rafael Nadal whose RG collection spans 18 years from 2005-2022. It’s beyond words and one of the greatest phenomena in sport ever.
 
Nadal fans as usual complaining about their hero's imaginary injuries when their guy has made of career out of dominating the most physically demanding surface for almost two decades along with 14 freaking RG titles on slow as molasses courts.

He's one of the most durable athletes in history. Notice how there is no talk of injuries from Nadal when he steps on the mud. Shrewd fellow is always fit to play on clay but conveniently gets injured (esp. when losing) on other surfaces.
Says someone whose idol is an accomplished actor in that matter.
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Nadal's 2022 RG draw was moderately difficult with FAA, Djokovic, and Zverev, although he had a freebie with Zverev's injury and having Ruud in the final. If 2023 RG Nadal is playing anywhere close to his level at the beginning of this year, he would not get past his 2022 RG draw.

Yep, Nadal had a tough draw on paper in RG 2022 but it ended up with a retirement in the SF and a bye in the final.

FAA - Djokovic - Zverev - Tsitsipas/Sinner/Rublev

That would have been a tough draw assuming Zverev stays healthy.
 
Nadal is already older now at 36.7 years old than when Federer won his last major in 2018 at 36.5. The oldest person to ever win a major is Ken Rosewall at 37.2 when he won the Australian in 1972 when only 1 other top 10 player participated. I doubt Nadal can surpass that record. He has a shot at Roland Garros this year, but even then he'll need a favorable draw. He's not going through Djokovic, Alcaraz, and Tsitsipas in a row. So I say Nadal has 1 more good shot at a slam. Barring injury, Djokovic will have reasonable chances at every major through Wimbledon 2024, but I expect to see decline after that.

The last sentence is very specific. I don’t think we can yet say that Djokovic won’t be too old in July 2024 but will be too old in September 2024.
 
Nadal fans as usual complaining about their hero's imaginary injuries when their guy has made of career out of dominating the most physically demanding surface for almost two decades along with 14 freaking RG titles on slow as molasses courts.

He's one of the most durable athletes in history. Notice how there is no talk of injuries from Nadal when he steps on the mud. Shrewd fellow is always fit to play on clay but conveniently gets injured (esp. when losing) on other surfaces.

I can literally feel your pain reading this :X3:

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Slow decline is overrated. It feels like you're largely trying to predict career ending injury.

The other half that is extremely hard to predict is what level competition is gonna get to. I'm primarily talking about Alcaraz.
 
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