What are some rivalries you are sad we did not get to see more of

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Beyond the most obvious answer of all time probably- Graf and Seles, for obvious reasons, what are some others.

I would say:

Lendl and Borg- Had Borg stayed in full time, and stayed motivated, this would have been a great rivalry to see evolve. Starting with Lendl in his mentally fragile but still formidable days of 82-84 (already starting in 81) with Borg in or close to prime-ish age still, continuing into the days of Lendl maturing mentally and overall, and Borg probably starting to age out of his prime, although who knows how fast, in 85 and beyond.

Edberg and Sampras- Edberg was a tougher opponent for Sampras than either Becker or Agassi it seemed. This would have been a great rivalry to watch even more of if they were closer in age.

Graf and Evert- This rivalry is one of the biggest mysteries their actual head to head history gives virtually no clues to at all. Evert won their first 6 matches when she was in or close to her prime, and Graf was up and coming, very young, and not really close to her prime level. Graf won their final 7 matches (8 if you count the WD which was just an inevitable Graf win anyhow), all but the 1st which were Graf in or coming into her prime, and Evert now clearly past hers. The one time a player was probably closer to their prime than the other and lost was 16 year old Graf's win in Hilton Head 86, when Graf was not ranked in the top 5, had only gone past the round of 16 of one slam, and Evert was still ranked #2, albeit she herself was 31 now. Would have been fascinating to see them within 2 years of each other in age, rather than 15 years apart in age.

Court and Evert- This is a very interesting rivalry in that Evert won her first 3 matches with Court, the first being when 15 year old Evert won in a small event over Court in her Grand Slam year of 1970. Court at age 31 then responded strongly winning 4 of her 5 matches in 73 vs 18 year old Evert. Court then retired, seemingly for good, but surprisingly returned in 75, but now aged 33-35 was too realistically too old to be making yet another comeback and a shadow of her former self, and lost all 5 matches with Chris, now fully in her prime, and the games dominant player. The early course of their rivalry makes one wonder about the enticing rivalry and the twists and turns of it we may have gotten.

King and Navratilova- Even though Martina leads the head to head 9-6, King did amazingly well considering their first ever match was when Navratilova was 21 and King already 34 and making a shock comeback after knee surgery. King still won their first 3 ever matches, and as late as 80 and 81 (when King was now 37) destroyed Martina twice on her favorite surfaces of grass and carpet, and nearly beat her in their match at Wimbledon 80 where she served for it. Would have been great to see Martina have to handle her if they were close to their primes together rather than Martina way closer to hers as was the case for all of their matches. Funny too when Martina fans boast about her getting a grand 2 wins in 7 years over a prime Graf in Martina's post prime period during 88-94, and claim this as some evidence of her owning Graf in her prime, but that is another topic, LOL!
 
Graf + Navratilova - They only played 18 times and are tied 9 to 9. I think I got spoiled in 1987 when they fittingly met 4 times and split matches. I thought 1988 would be the same, but nope. Just one thriller roller coaster at Wimbledon and then an entire year before meeting again. 1989 seemed to right everything with 3 meetings but then two entire years before they finally met again in 1991. There should have been so many more contests. Their games, speed, power and variety were so exciting.

Evert + Austin - Similar numbers to Graf/Martina. 17 matches played and Austin leads 9 to 8. The majority of matches were from 1979 to 1981. But Chris was distracted by her 1979 wedding and not playing so great, while Tracy was just beginning to peak. Then in early 1980 Chris was at her all time lowest while Tracy was peak prime. So they didn’t really play much when both were peaking until the 1980 US Open until the late 1981 Year End Championships. Obviously the final match in 1982 was Austin at her lowest. So they only played 4 matches where both were healthy and playing at their peak. They split those matches and it seemed like there were so many more to come. Some people say they were the very beginning of the baseline bores when they played each other, but the 1980 US Open semifinal was a thriller. Chris had her full arsenal on display and Tracy was fighting like a cornered cat. It wasn’t just standing at the baseline and trading ground strokes. Or, as in their 1979 US Open final, moonballs. I wish there was just a glimpse of footage from their 1981 round Robin thriller at the YEC. It’s bizarre that none exists.

Serena + Capriati - You just got the feeling that every encounter was a dramatic grudge match and it was my absolute favorite rivalry 2001-2004. They only played 17 times and it did seem like they met quite often 2001-2004, but I wanted more. It was so much fun watching them compete. Funny that Jen never beat Venus (that crazy Miami match) but could frustrate Serena to no end for at least two sets. So many of their match’s went to three and it was always a thriller at the end. Unless Jen pooped out from all that retrieving.

Obviously Steffi + Monica, Bjorn + Mac.
 
Connors-Vilas. always seemed strange that they played each other so rarely.
Also, Connors-Wilander. Connors was a lot older, but you would have thought they would have played more than the official 5 times. (They played a few times that the ATP in it's infinite wisdom doesn't count)

No meetings is 1983, or 1987. Only played once in 1985 and once in 1986.
 
Borg-Lendl was the first one that sprung to me for me on the men's side. It 1982 when Lendl was insanely good indoors, notably destroying Connors and McEnroe back to back to win the Masters and not losing any matches in 'sanctioned' tournaments under a roof, that Borg beat him 3 times out of 4 in big money invitationals.

Also:

Borg-McEnroe - Given iconic and huge that rivalry was for the global popularity of tennis (obviously as part of golden triumvirate with Connors as well), I wish there had been more than 14 sanctioned matches.
Ferrero-Kuerten
Courier-Medvedev (their 1994 Monte-Carlo QF was one of my favourite clay court matches from the 90s).
Goolagong-Austin
Venus-Henin from 2003 - 7 out of their 9 matches took place in 2001-2002.
Henin-Hingis
Mauresmo-Sharapova
 
It 1982 when Lendl was insanely good indoors, notably destroying Connors and McEnroe back to back to win the Masters and not losing any matches in 'sanctioned' tournaments under a roof, that Borg beat him 3 times out of 4 in big money invitationals.
Borg is underrated on carpet. Also was 5-3 against Mac and 5-2 against Connor’s. He didn’t win so many of the big titles (relatively speaking) but his H2Hs against the other top carpet players of his era are great. His 6-1, 6-4, 6-2 beating of Lendl at Sydney 1982 was great.
 
Safin-Federer - we got a tiny sampling of how great their matches could be at the ATP Finals 2004 and Aussie Open 2005. A healthy, focused Safin wouldve been a fantastic to rivalry to Fed in some of Fed's best years from 2005-2009

Coria-Nadal - would've LOVED for this rivalry to fully blossom. Coria's injuries, doping dramas, etc ended his career too early. Their few encounters were terrific
 
There were a number of old pro era rivalries which were stymied by the split pro/am fields before 1968.

The Budge/Vines rivalry only started in 1939, and was derailed by Vines' injury that season. Should have begun in about 1935.

Kramer/Riggs was interrupted by the split from 1941 to 1947, should have lasted longer.

Kovacs/Kramer never happened, Kramer refused to play against Kovacs in a tour. Kovacs beat Riggs in a 1947 tour and deserved the right to play Kramer.
 
Safin-Federer - we got a tiny sampling of how great their matches could be at the ATP Finals 2004 and Aussie Open 2005. A healthy, focused Safin wouldve been a fantastic to rivalry to Fed in some of Fed's best years from 2005-2009

Dubai 2004 was also a close one.


Coria-Nadal - would've LOVED for this rivalry to fully blossom. Coria's injuries, doping dramas, etc ended his career too early. Their few encounters were terrific

Yep, when Nadal was at his peak on clay (2008, 2010), probably not much he could have done, but in other years we could have some more epics like Rome 2005.
 
Stich-Ivanisevic-Krajicek-Becker-Sampras simultaneously fighting for a Wimbledon title the same way Ivanisevic-Henman-Rafter-Agassi fought their way to the 2001 title.

1996 actually came close had Becker avoided his injury and Ivanisevic defeated Stoltenberg.
 
Beyond the most obvious answer of all time probably- Graf and Seles, for obvious reasons, what are some others.

I would say:

Lendl and Borg- Had Borg stayed in full time, and stayed motivated, this would have been a great rivalry to see evolve. Starting with Lendl in his mentally fragile but still formidable days of 82-84 (already starting in 81) with Borg in or close to prime-ish age still, continuing into the days of Lendl maturing mentally and overall, and Borg probably starting to age out of his prime, although who knows how fast, in 85 and beyond.

Edberg and Sampras- Edberg was a tougher opponent for Sampras than either Becker or Agassi it seemed. This would have been a great rivalry to watch even more of if they were closer in age.

Graf and Evert- This rivalry is one of the biggest mysteries their actual head to head history gives virtually no clues to at all. Evert won their first 6 matches when she was in or close to her prime, and Graf was up and coming, very young, and not really close to her prime level. Graf won their final 7 matches (8 if you count the WD which was just an inevitable Graf win anyhow), all but the 1st which were Graf in or coming into her prime, and Evert now clearly past hers. The one time a player was probably closer to their prime than the other and lost was 16 year old Graf's win in Hilton Head 86, when Graf was not ranked in the top 5, had only gone past the round of 16 of one slam, and Evert was still ranked #2, albeit she herself was 31 now. Would have been fascinating to see them within 2 years of each other in age, rather than 15 years apart in age.

Court and Evert- This is a very interesting rivalry in that Evert won her first 3 matches with Court, the first being when 15 year old Evert won in a small event over Court in her Grand Slam year of 1970. Court at age 31 then responded strongly winning 4 of her 5 matches in 73 vs 18 year old Evert. Court then retired, seemingly for good, but surprisingly returned in 75, but now aged 33-35 was too realistically too old to be making yet another comeback and a shadow of her former self, and lost all 5 matches with Chris, now fully in her prime, and the games dominant player. The early course of their rivalry makes one wonder about the enticing rivalry and the twists and turns of it we may have gotten.

King and Navratilova- Even though Martina leads the head to head 9-6, King did amazingly well considering their first ever match was when Navratilova was 21 and King already 34 and making a shock comeback after knee surgery. King still won their first 3 ever matches, and as late as 80 and 81 (when King was now 37) destroyed Martina twice on her favorite surfaces of grass and carpet, and nearly beat her in their match at Wimbledon 80 where she served for it. Would have been great to see Martina have to handle her if they were close to their primes together rather than Martina way closer to hers as was the case for all of their matches. Funny too when Martina fans boast about her getting a grand 2 wins in 7 years over a prime Graf in Martina's post prime period during 88-94, and claim this as some evidence of her owning Graf in her prime, but that is another topic, LOL!
Oh you missed Evert- Goolagong rivalry. Granted it was a bit lopsided in result 26-13 but 15 of them went the distance, and you never knew when Evonne was going to turn up the flame or when it would fizzle under a bucket of errors. That head to head had some of the most fascinating and compelling tennis rallies played in the 70's early 8o's when Evonne was playing well (it made little difference what the surface was),

But she decided spending time with her Aussie rugrats was more important than 7 more years of matches and Youtube highlight clips. She should have put the sport first.
 
My favorite rivalry ever. Their April 1982 Palm Beach clash was amazing. Chris was world #1 + the Wimbledon champion and Evonne was playing her first match in 5 months as a mother of two. I don’t know why Evonne returned to the circuit in November 1981 for two tournaments and then waited until April for the full comeback, but she was magic that weekend. Besides making the final of a tournament in Australia in the fall of ‘82 and taking a set off #1 Martina, that was her last real hurrah. She pushed Chris on Floridian clay to the limit and then beat reigning French Open Champion Hana for the 3rd place playoff. Then basically nothing. Losing to Zina easily at Wimbledon. Skipping both the French + US Opens.
 
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My favorite rivalry ever. Their April 1982 Palm Beach clash was amazing. Chris was world #1 + the Wimbledon champion and Evonne was playing her first match in 5 months as a mother of two. I don’t know why Evonne returned to the circuit in November 1981 for two tournaments and then waited until April for the full comeback, but she was magic that weekend. Besides making the final of a tournament in Australia in the fall and taking a set off #1 Martina, that was her last real hurrah. She pushed Chris on Floridian clay to the limit and then beat French an open Champion Hana for the 3rd place playoff. Then basically nothing. Losing to Zina easily at Wimbledon. Skipping both the French + US Opens.
There are tennis geniuses far greater than you or I, who cannot decipher the ebbs and flows of Evonne Goolagong's tennis. If there are tennis deities in the cosmos, they too are confounded by this mystery. But when that woman was feeling it...nothing was more beautiful or lethal My favorite quote about this rivalry. Chris played tennis as though it was a disciplined classical piano piece . Evonne played it as though it was improvisational jazz solo.
 
But she decided spending time with her Aussie rugrats was more important than 7 more years of matches and Youtube highlight clips. She should have put the sport first.
Don't know if I agree there. I think not missing the chance to build family life was something she likely does not regret. She still has a legacy in tennis, not as much as she possibly could have had for a number of reasons, but I am sure she feels good about her career, and with the family life she succeeded in attaining, and something people like Evert and Navratilova still struggle with building/ maintaining. Maybe that is the price to pay for putting your sport first until the moment your body can't take it anymore. I wouldn't say either way is right or wrong, but I wouldn't feel right in saying Goolagong was wrong going the direction she did.
 
Don't know if I agree there. I think not missing the chance to build family life was something she likely does not regret. She still has a legacy in tennis, not as much as she possibly could have had for a number of reasons, but I am sure she feels good about her career, and with the family life she succeeded in attaining, and something people like Evert and Navratilova still struggle with building/ maintaining. Maybe that is the price to pay for putting your sport first until the moment your body can't take it anymore. I wouldn't say either way is right or wrong, but I wouldn't feel right in saying Goolagong was wrong going the direction she did.
I was totally kidding there. Of course she should prioritize her children. Of course she should leave the sport for whatever reason she wants for whatever purpose she desires. We don't need any tennis matches played enough to coerce the players to play them.

-I thought the phrase ' Aussie rugrats' was a dead giveaway that it was tongue-in-cheek, so I did not need an emoj.
 
I was totally kidding there. Of course she prioritize her children. Of course she should leave the sport for whatever reason she wants for whatever purpose she desires. We don't need any tennis matches played enough to coerce the players to play them.

I thought the term 'rugrats' was a dead giveaway, so I did not need an emoj.

Ok, my bad. Humor is hard to translate online sometimes.
 
Nadal vs Agassi.
At their peak, it would have been amazing to watch:
1. Nadal running all over the place (which is pretty much what he wants)
2. Andre controlling the middle making Nadal run side to side (which is definitely what he wants)

Despite Andre having "control", Nadal thrives on being on the run, and can oddly be "in control" of a point when being the one on defense.
 
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