What are your hot takes

[kangaroo1973]

Do you have some hot takes?
Here is mine.
some Nadal Djokovic matches were not that entertaining or "good" in terms of quality. Just a brutal baseline grinding. The most notorious example is 2012 AO Final, which was a grinding personified on super slow HC. Imo QF Berdych vs Nadal was a way better match than the final.
I cannot comprehend why some fans consider 2012 AO one of the greatest matches of all time, there were far better clashes in terms of quality. 2013 AO 4TH round comes to mind, 2005 AO SF Safin Fed ( perhaps the best AO match ever) or 2007 Wimby final.

 

[aldeayeah]

That's not a hot take - it was the mainstream opinion for a long time. Then people's biases changed, and people's memories faded.

Madrid 2009 stands as the ultimate Djokodal grindfest though.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Tomas Berdych is the unluckiest player in the history of sport - not just tennis.

 

[Clay lover]

If you find Djokodal matches boring I would contend that early Fedal clay matches are even more boring. They are almost always characterized by Nadal hitting loopy forehands to Federer's backhand all day and Federer trying his hardest to break that pattern, being successful for half a set and then faltering mentally.

 

[GloW]

Zverev > Sinner for now…
Llendl > Federer
Holger Rune should not have ever been in the top 10 let alone top 5.
Olympic gold medal = 2 slams

 

[ollinger]

Do you have some hot takes?

I cannot comprehend why some fans consider 2012 AO one of the greatest matches

That's not a hot take

Yes, that's a cold take, at best. Hot take refers to commentary on a recent event. Try to avoid cliches, or at least use them correctly.

 

[Tennfan123]

You can compare players across eras which is how you get Gonzales, Laver and Sampras as the historical big 3.

 

[Third Serve]

If you find Djokodal matches boring I would contend that early Fedal clay matches are even more boring. They are almost always characterized by Nadal hitting loopy forehands to Federer's backhand all day and Federer trying his hardest to break that pattern, being successful for half a set and then faltering mentally.

I think this was sometimes true but not always. RGs 2005 and 2007 as well as Rome 2006 and Hamburg 2007/2008 broke the mold in a lot of ways. I think this pattern was more evident in most of the 2008 clay matches and on.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Djoker only wins 5 slams if Fed was born 5 years later.

But seriously, I never understood why we do not play ALL lets in all scenarios and why in the world are we apologizing for any of the lets.

 

[GRASScaraz]

Alcaraz SINNER will become the next Federer Roddick

 

[kangaroo1973]

Alcaraz SINNER will become the next Federer Roddick

That is not hot. That is stupid

 

[The Blond Blur]

RAFA could have won RG a year earlier had his CC seasons not been derailed by injury in 03-04 is probably my spiciest take.

 

[GRASScaraz]

RAFA could have won RG a year earlier had his CC seasons not been derailed by injury in 03-04 is probably my spiciest take.

No he barely survived Puerta

 

[The Blond Blur]

No he barely survived Puerta

“Barely survived” He won in 4 sets and Puerta played better than either of Coria or Gaudio in that **** show of a F in 04. Dude was doped up more than Sinner was.

 

[GRASScaraz]

“Barely survived” He won in 4 sets and Puerta played better than either of Coria or Gaudio in that **** show of a F in 04. Dude was doped up more than Sinner was.

Puerta had multiple set points in Set 4 when serving for it

 

[The Blond Blur]

Puerta had multiple set points in Set 4 when serving for it

And? All that means it would have gone to 5. And considering RAFA already had an epic marathon 5 setter vs Coria the Rome F earlier that year I trust him more in the decider.

 

[Aabye5]

The ATP Tour needs more than Sinner and Alcaraz

 

[GRASScaraz]

And? All that means it would have gone to 5. And considering RAFA already had an epic marathon 5 setter vs Coria the Rome F earlier that year I trust him more in the decider.

Yeah but Ur argument was '04 Dal wins RG and I disagreed

 

[BorgTheGOAT]

Rafter’s volleys were on par with Edberg’s and Mac’s
Krajicek’s peak is the highest of all one time slammers (for individual matches)
Becker severely underperformed given his abilities
Sampras has the highest peak on carpet
Borg’s 6+5 is the biggest achievement in tennis history

 

[The Blond Blur]

Yeah but Ur argument was '04 Dal wins RG and I disagreed

And your argument was a player (who was confirmed to be doping at the time) who played better than either Coria or Gaudio almost pushed him to 5. That doesn’t adress how poorly the 04 finalists played.

 

[Aabye5]

Rafter’s volleys were on par with Edberg’s and Mac’s
Krajicek’s peak is the highest of all one time slammers (for individual matches)
Becker severely underperformed given his abilities
Sampras has the highest peak on carpet
Borg’s 6+5 is the biggest achievement in tennis history

Rafter...huh.

 

[Technology Ruined Tennis]

Wimbledon should be played on a synthetic turf surface that mimics R1 grass and stays consistent throughout the fortnight.

 

[BorgTheGOAT]

Rafter...huh.

?

 

[AO13]

Djoker only wins 5 slams if Fed was born 5 years later.

But seriously, I never understood why we do not play ALL lets in all scenarios and why in the world are we apologizing for any of the lets.

Because some gentlemen almost 150 years ago said lets will be replayed if hit on serve and it is gentlemanly to apologize if you win a point with help of lets.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Because some gentlemen almost 150 years ago said lets will be replayed if hit on serve and it is gentlemanly to apologize if you win a point with help of lets.

Never seen anyone apologize in any other sports for something going their way and helping them win.

Imagine in hockey if the forward apologized to the goalie for the puck going crossbar in?

OR for the basketball hitting rim and backboard and going in and then.... apologizing.

 

[islappadaface]

The ATP Tour needs more than Sinner and Alcaraz

I wouldn't say this is particularly 'hot'. I think a lot of fans want to see a third contender.

 

[nolefam_2024]

2015 Djokovic is better than 2011

Screw the competition.

 

[CHillTennis]

That Carlos Alcaraz and Jannik Sinner would be second tier players in another era.

 

[Aabye5]

Carlos totally used some gamemanship with the shoe change in the third set tiebreak

 

[nolefam_2024]

Carlos totally used some gamemanship with the shoe change in the third set tiebreak

I was furious.

 

[AO13]

Never seen anyone apologize in any other sports for something going their way and helping them win.

Imagine in hockey if the forward apologized to the goalie for the puck going crossbar in?

OR for the basketball hitting rim and backboard and going in and then.... apologizing.

I know and I agree with you.

Personally, when I score accidentally off the backboard in the pick up games in basketball, I actually do apologize to everyone . But that's just me.​

 

[BorgTheGOAT]

That Carlos Alcaraz and Jannik Sinner would be second tier players in another era.

Not a hot take, more the truth

 

[mehdimike]

Never seen anyone apologize in any other sports for something going their way and helping them win.

Imagine in hockey if the forward apologized to the goalie for the puck going crossbar in?

OR for the basketball hitting rim and backboard and going in and then.... apologizing.

In volleyball when the server gets an ace, the whole team start to celebrate and no one apologizes. I always find that funny compared to tennis

 

[zagor]

If you find Djokodal matches boring I would contend that early Fedal clay matches are even more boring. They are almost always characterized by Nadal hitting loopy forehands to Federer's backhand all day and Federer trying his hardest to break that pattern, being successful for half a set and then faltering mentally.