What can Sinner improve on?

zill

Hall of Fame
Great ball striker. Hits harder than the big 3 on both sides so what's lacking? He seems to be mixing in some drop shots nowadays as well. Serve obviously not the best. How is his movement?
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Great ball striker. Hits harder than the big 3 on both sides so what's lacking? He seems to be mixing in some drop shots nowadays as well. Serve obviously not the best. How is his movement?
Stamina. he seem to get tired when it gets to the crucial points of the match. That's why he starts to miss, not because he's picking wrong shot placement
 
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Deleted member 783101

Guest
Jannik Sinner is close to becoming a Slam contender. All he has to do is to improve the following aspects:
-serve
-forehand
-slice
-drop shot
-movement
-shot selection
-stamina
-mental strength
-strategic awareness
-[...]
 

James P

G.O.A.T.
His raw talent has gotten him this far, the cusp of the top 10. But yeah, he needs to refine the skills he already has while adding in a serve, stamina, and some variety. He's on a good path. I still expect him to make the top 3 in the future, potentially a #1 player with Slam titles, if he continues on the path he's currently on.
 

Tennisfan339

Semi-Pro
Less unforced errors. This is his biggest issue imo. When he doesn't get his way, he hits harder and puts the ball everywhere except in the court. He is a lot like WTA players. Doesn't have a plan B.

And yeah, his serve. More power, higher % of first serves.

I hope this can be fixed. He is still one of the youngest, has a slam QF, a Masters1000 final and 2 titles. He still has time.
 

Goosehead

Legend
is he still 19 ?..or 20 soon. i think have an early close season before paris masters, then after a few weeks of relaxing get in a big training block, a few more weights should build him up abit and at 19/20 he could fill out bigtime.

although the big spanner in those works would be what to do if he qualifies for the yec championships which..are in his homeland of italy.
 

-NN-

G.O.A.T.
How about making life easier for himself by not half-assing his serve. If he ever develops a serve even in the ballpark of Djokovic then he'll win Slams.
 

mehdimike

Professional
He needs to hit harder! :laughing:
‎”I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.”
It'd be a nice slogan. "Hit Harder"
Sponsored by Sinner, Rublev, Berrettini - who else?!:unsure:
 

Thriller

Hall of Fame
When was the last time Jannik Sinner did anything on court, hit any shot, that surprised you? Whenever he does try to mix things up with a dropshot, slice etc it is invariably awful. He is one of the most predictable players I have seen in years, coaches and players will figure him out pretty quickly. He seems over-coached and totally lacking in imagination and creativity. Creativity -- that's a hard thing to add to a fully formed adult.
 

Red Rick

Bionic Poster
Serve.

Forehand.

Backhand

Probably in that order.

Touch, volleys, etc are overrated. Sinner doens't have particular talent for those and he'd be better off if he had the best groundstrokes in the world.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Great ball striker. Hits harder than the big 3 on both sides so what's lacking?
He's not a particularly great ball striker, he makes way, way too many UE's. A great ball striker is someone like Agassi or Djokovic, who rarely miss. Accuracy and placement are far more important than pure pace. Hitting hard doesn't make an ATG player, otherwise guys like James Blake, Jerzy Janowicz or Del Po would all have dominated the game and none ever came close to doing that.

Sinner is mentally suspect. No way should he have lost the Miami final to Hubi. He should have been able to serve out the first set at RG against Rafa last year. I think he will win slams but he's not going to be some kind of tennis savior.
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
He's not a particularly great ball striker, he makes way, way too many UE's. A great ball striker is someone like Agassi or Djokovic, who rarely miss. Accuracy and placement are far more important than pure pace. Hitting hard doesn't make an ATG player, otherwise guys like James Blake, Jerzy Janowicz or Del Po would all have dominated the game and none ever came close to doing that.

Sinner is mentally suspect. No way should he have lost the Miami final to Hubi. He should have been able to serve out the first set at RG against Rafa last year. I think he will win slams but he's not going to be some kind of tennis savior.
I don't think he's mentally suspect, I think he's a very young player playing a friend. Not everyone can be Rafa.
 

King No1e

G.O.A.T.
Thiem left the syndrome behind in early 2019.
He started playing smarter, that's for sure. But he's never quite left behind the "if I hit it hard enough, maybe it'll quantum tunnel through my opponent" mindset.

I wonder if we'll see a new Thiem coming back from injury playing high-percentage efficient tennis like Rafa did after 2017. He might need to, depending on how bad that wrist injury was.
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
I think some people only watched his match against Rafa and his match against Hurkacz. In general, I think he's pretty consistent.
 

Tennisfan339

Semi-Pro
I think some people only watched his match against Rafa and his match against Hurkacz. In general, I think he's pretty consistent.
I watched his 1R against Draper in Queen's and some parts against Fucsovics in Wimbledon. Consistent isn't the first adjective that comes to my mind after these 2 matches.
 

socallefty

Legend
Serve primarily and then work on a better BH slice to inject variety into his game and learn to finish points better at the net. He also needs to learn to construct point patterns in a way that augments his strengths and that starts with being accurate with serves/returns.

For example in the recent Miami final, Hurkacz hit everything to Sinner’s BH and didn’t want anything to do with Sinner’s FH. Yet, Sinner was happy enough with this pattern and even though he has a great BH, it is still not as good as his FH and he ended up making tons of errors which cost him the match.


He also needs to get physically stronger to last seven Bof5 matches in a Slam.
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
I watched his 1R against Draper in Queen's and some parts against Fucsovics in Wimbledon. Consistent isn't the first adjective that comes to my mind after these 2 matches.
If you pick two bad losses from practically any player they will look inconsistent. Even Rafa.
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
"Great ball striker."

I think this has become the most empty superlative in reference to tennis players. What does it even mean, and how does it matter? Most tennis players are proficient ball strikers, and I don't necessarily see Sinner far above the average.
 

James P

G.O.A.T.
"Great ball striker."

I think this has become the most empty superlative in reference to tennis players. What does it even mean, and how does it matter? Most tennis players are proficient ball strikers, and I don't necessarily see Sinner far above the average.
It means he smacks the ish out of it.

 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
"Great ball striker."

I think this has become the most empty superlative in reference to tennis players. What does it even mean, and how does it matter? Most tennis players are proficient ball strikers, and I don't necessarily see Sinner far above the average.
To me it means being able to change the direction of the ball, hitting it cleanly, combining power with placement, etc.

I think Sinner does the first well, the rest not so well.
 

Zoid

Hall of Fame
Most of the nextgen have more power than the current big 3, just as a lot of their contemporaries (Tsonga, Berdych, Soderling, Delpo, Gonzalez) had more power. Power is useless if you can't execute it consistently in the biggest moments. Give me control and movement every day of the week over power at 5-5 in the third set.

Sinner has amazing power off both wings but lacks:

Serve accuracy and percentage
Intangibles: needs to develop a drop shot, angles, and some net movement to compliment his power
Defence: Defence wins consistently.

It's similar to Shapo. These two have great power, but need to learn control, consistency, and finesse.

Djoker has less power than these two but has consistency, defence, serving accuracy, and dropshots in spades
 

MadariKatu

Professional
Most of the nextgen have more power than the current big 3, just as a lot of their contemporaries (Tsonga, Berdych, Soderling, Delpo, Gonzalez) had more power. Power is useless if you can't execute it consistently in the biggest moments. Give me control and movement every day of the week over power at 5-5 in the third set.

Sinner has amazing power off both wings but lacks:

Serve accuracy and percentage
Intangibles: needs to develop a drop shot, angles, and some net movement to compliment his power
Defence: Defence wins consistently.

It's similar to Shapo. These two have great power, but need to learn control, consistency, and finesse.

Djoker has less power than these two but has consistency, defence, serving accuracy, and dropshots in spades
Can't compare him to Shapo. Denis has good net game, can open angles, has a way better serve, hits slice and drop shots and has variety (he can be unpredictable). He has issues, but none of those are related to his shots the shots he can hit.

Sinner needs more variety in his shots, and most difficult would be to see the game with imagination. Maybe picking up an instrument helps with this. I don't see as much future in him as others do.
 

Zoid

Hall of Fame
Can't compare him to Shapo. Denis has good net game, can open angles, has a way better serve, hits slice and drop shots and has variety (he can be unpredictable). He has issues, but none of those are related to his shots the shots he can hit.

Sinner needs more variety in his shots, and most difficult would be to see the game with imagination. Maybe picking up an instrument helps with this. I don't see as much future in him as others do.
I don't agree re Shapo having a good net game, or slice or drop shots. He does have a better serve and can procure better angles though. Shapo has a terrible slice for a single-hander, and not much of a block return either, which he is working on. Sinner is mentally very good for the youngsters of his group;
 

King No1e

G.O.A.T.
Can't compare him to Shapo. Denis has good net game, can open angles, has a way better serve, hits slice and drop shots and has variety (he can be unpredictable). He has issues, but none of those are related to his shots the shots he can hit.

Sinner needs more variety in his shots, and most difficult would be to see the game with imagination. Maybe picking up an instrument helps with this. I don't see as much future in him as others do.
Sinner is really good from the baseline. If Shapo's creativity and all-court variety reminded me of Federer, Sinner's baseline power and precision, both on attack and defense, reminds me a bit of young Djokovic. He's exactly the kind of player who could really make it big on HC.

I agree that Shapovalov has a higher ceiling and more weapons. The question is consistency though, and Sinner (even now) has much more of that.
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
Sinner is really good from the baseline. If Shapo's creativity and all-court variety reminded me of Federer, Sinner's baseline power and precision, both on attack and defense, reminds me a bit of young Djokovic. He's exactly the kind of player who could really make it big on HC.

I agree that Shapovalov has a higher ceiling and more weapons. The question is consistency though, and Sinner (even now) has much more of that.
Exactly. This is 100% true, I think. Shapo is a bit flashier, but Sinner has shown that you can't go through him very easily.
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
Most of the nextgen have more power than the current big 3, just as a lot of their contemporaries (Tsonga, Berdych, Soderling, Delpo, Gonzalez) had more power. Power is useless if you can't execute it consistently in the biggest moments. Give me control and movement every day of the week over power at 5-5 in the third set.

Sinner has amazing power off both wings but lacks:

Serve accuracy and percentage
Intangibles: needs to develop a drop shot, angles, and some net movement to compliment his power
Defence: Defence wins consistently.

It's similar to Shapo. These two have great power, but need to learn control, consistency, and finesse.

Djoker has less power than these two but has consistency, defence, serving accuracy, and dropshots in spades
Sure, but he didn't have all of that when he was 19. He had most of his game in tact, but his stamina was awful compared to Sinner (who only looked like he was about to die in Miami)
 

Kralingen

Hall of Fame
Sure, but he didn't have all of that when he was 19. He had most of his game in tact, but his stamina was awful compared to Sinner (who only looked like he was about to die in Miami)
Djokovic was already one of the top 10 best movers and defensive players in the world at age 19. Also had a drop shot and a serve, let’s not make comparisons.

Honestly what will make or break him is how his movement improves. He seems quick enough but not a great anticipator or slider, though that will come with experience on surfaces. The serve is a mess right now too but I have more confidence in a player tightening his serve than overcoming movement. Is he going to be Berdych movement wise, or is he going to take the next step?
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
Djokovic was already one of the top 10 best movers and defensive players in the world at age 19. Also had a drop shot and a serve, let’s not make comparisons.

Honestly what will make or break him is how his movement improves. He seems quick enough but not a great anticipator or slider, though that will come with experience on surfaces. The serve is a mess right now too but I have more confidence in a player tightening his serve than overcoming movement. Is he going to be Berdych movement wise, or is he going to take the next step?
Er...I think his serve was a lot more vulnerable then. His dropshot might have been better at that time then it is now, because he has probably a bit faster, but there are at least 5 players (who were playing at the same time) who had a much better dropshot.

That said, his movement was and is awesome. Can't rank anyone above him from any era on that front.

Now, Nole's serve was much better than this Sinner's (couldn't help it). But I think Sinner's forehand might be as good as Nole's at that time.
 
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