what caused your divorce?

sureshs said:
That is true, but what I was saying is that if someone doesn't want to get married or wants to gets divorced, they are unlikely to think of their future child having a lower rate of drug use. People don't make such decisions based on statistical studies.

If you take the example of the Stanimal, he basically ditched his wife and daughter to become better in tennis. And he has achieved overwhelmingly after the separation. If you tell him his kid might have a higher rate of drug use, he will laugh at you.

The fact of the matter is that social mores need to reinforce marriage. Formerly, it was reinforced by religion. Divorce was first not granted at all, but that did not work out. Then divorced people were shunned, but that led to huge discrimination against divorced women compared to divorced men, and it did not work out. Basically, once divorce is legal, nothing much can be done about it. It is like guns in the US. If they are legal, then nothing you can do about it. All the statistics do not matter.
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An insanely speculative assertion with zero proof whatsoever.

The report is that he cheated on his wife while he playing tennis and that's what ultimately led to their separation. His ex-wife (Ilham Vuillod) even admitted to it in the press, releasing a rather stinging statement: "His instability, desire to regain his freedom—at all levels—are the source. And I have to admit the repeated fibs and emotional betrayals eventually destroyed entirely the confidence I had in him."

http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2015/04/wawrinkas-wife-responds-statement-divorce/54695/


It was actually King Henry VIII who initially came up with the annulment of marriage. The whole Catherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn situations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII_of_England#Annulment_from_Catherine
 
sureshs said:
Therein lies the catch. Most faithful, real women are not beautiful (because most women are not beautiful, and the beautiful ones get less beautiful with age).

In every animal species, evolution has caused diminishing value for organisms past the peak reproductive period. Death itself is nothing but a way for evolution to get rid of the waste in order to make way for the future. There are many species of insects where the male dies immediately after mating, or is even eaten by the female. The female also dies once the young is on the way.

Through artificial means, humans have prolonged life expectancy and health, but their attempts at maintaining beauty has not yet caught up with the other progress. In spite of all the face lifts, wrinkle reduction, cosmetic breast surgeries, hair dyes, etc., old women and men look old. And those to whom age has been kinder also show their age mentally and are less attractive for socializing.
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humorous
 
the commonly cited fifty percent is a questionable number; some method flaws in it. I can't recall the more accurate revisions, but I believe it's somewhere in the thirty percents. Some writer with the NY Times wrote a book on this a few years ago noting the mistakes.
 
max said:
the commonly cited fifty percent is a questionable number; some method flaws in it. I can't recall the more accurate revisions, but I believe it's somewhere in the thirty percents. Some writer with the NY Times wrote a book on this a few years ago noting the mistakes.
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50% of all stats are made up
 
Booger said:
What gets me is people divorcing after 10+ years. Most of my peer group dissolved their "starter marriages" after 2-3 years due to narcissism, infidelity, people change, etc. I don't sweat it because those people never should have been married in the first place.

But then you see folks in their 40's with teenage children divorcing.. wtf? They had to think that the odds were in their favor after so long. What else do these people think is out there for them at that age?
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Did ya ever think that maybe being single for them is better than being married to a person they dislike? Even if they probably won't find someone else?
 
i'm puzzled... still no mention of the mother-in-law in this thread ?! :p
would that be a legend ?! :eek: (an international one !)

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Noveson said:
Is that supposed to be a counterpoint?
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Women who initiate divorces don't do it to be alone. They divorce so they can upgrade. I know tons of single middle aged men, but only a handful of women. Just the natural order of things, I suppose.
 
maleyoyo said:
LOL. Thanks for the laugh.

Okay Mr. Don Juan Kramer. When you think you are that big you ought to be called Mister!

Just a bit curious that during those 17 years, between psychedelic episodes of whatever mind altering drugs you were taking, did you ever once open your eyes to see if your partners vaguely resemble any of the Bond girls or they were all more like the Butt sisters? I suspect it’s the later.
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MY comment to the Butt sisters was simple, "Honey, I don't have enough money to buy enough flour to roll you in to find the wet spot. Thanks
but no thank you".
 
kramer woodie said:
MY comment to the Butt sisters was simple, "Honey, I don't have enough money to buy enough flour to roll you in to find the wet spot. Thanks
but no thank you".
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Lol! Flour is pretty inexpensive. More importantly...
It was so funny when my teammate's dbag older brother cracked that very same joke back when we were freshmen in college. He was so "cool", and so successful with the faster girls on campus. Now it just sounds like something donald trump would say. In private.
 
slice bh compliment said:
Lol! Flour is pretty inexpensive. More importantly...
It was so funny when my teammate's dbag older brother cracked that very same joke back when we were freshmen in college. He was so "cool", and so successful with the faster girls on campus. Now it just sounds like something donald trump would say. In private.
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slice bs & maleyoyo

Look I am all for women being Equal. I have no intention of placing them on a false pedestal. Women are equal. Time they started acting like it.
Therefore, I have been known to say to women who question me about whether I'm married or have a lady friend, (these women are usually
over 50 as I'm 70), "I am holding out for that woman who is so stupid in love with me (I should probably sub madly in love, however less punch)
that she wants to buy me a diamond ring and pay my bills". Well the response is anger covered up with sarcasm, "Well how is that working out
for you?" To which I get to respond perfectly, "I'm still single!!!!"

Please note, a 20 year age difference is no biggie, if you're a divorced or widowed, 50 plus unmarried female. Also, my life experience has
through watching and listening revealed certain traits about the Battle of the Sexes. Elderly couple, husband says, "Our house, our kids, our
money." The wife says, "My house, my kids, my money." I called her on her statement, reminded of what her husband said, she said, "He can
just pack his bag and find out how quick it's true, it's mine." In a court paternity suit, the spectators, jury, lawyers, or judge will not spend
one nickel of their money to pay for your ******* child. The lawyers and judge will not asked the female plaintiff if she used anyone of 10
forms of birth control to avoid becoming pregnant. Instead, you'll only hear, "It is all his fault!"

I 'll not go in to the ten forms of birth control at this time, however, I give you the first one as a hint to help you compile you own list of
ten, no sex, abstain!!!

The truth is the bait only last so long. You have to get with it before the bait deteriorates. Just imagine, a man wakens to a beautiful
sunrise, the most beautiful sunrise he has ever seen in his life. He rolls over to share it with his wife of 30 years. What does he see? That
gorgeous long shiny silky hair has been cut off because it's too much work to take care of, every road in the county lines her face, the
headlights that got his attention have turned into fog lamps and the butt has spread so much he has to buy her 2 seats on an airplane to
get her to that romantic vacation getaway spot. Perfectly good way to ruin a beautiful sunrise.

Truth is I am all for marriage!!! It's just not for me! I don't know what's best for you, nor do I just jump to conclusion base on my own
imaginings to defend my ego or choices.

I do know that most girls just want to have fun, marry well, and live happily every after. Hope it works out for them. If my humor offended
you I apologize. I am sorry I caused you to feel the need to defend your choice and stickup for womanhood, especially womanhood that
declares itself EQUAL.

Aloha

P.S. Of the many (I do mean many) women who I have shared sexual pleasure with, not one of them has weighed more than 118 pounds.
They have all had been models, figure skaters, tennis players, fit trim on the slender side. The only word to describe them is svelte.
Svelte does not last with aging. Bad enough to see myself age let alone witness someone I love get old.
 
Booger said:
Women who initiate divorces don't do it to be alone. They divorce so they can upgrade. I know tons of single middle aged men, but only a handful of women. Just the natural order of things, I suppose.
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They do it because they figured out their husband's TTW username :)
 
MathGeek said:
I'm on 27 years and counting. Not just good. Mind blowing, toe curling, earth shaking, awesome.
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Nostradamus said:
Impossible,,, 27 years ?? I heard after 6 years or so it is like not even sex anymore.... it is so boring
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A sample size of one only proves it is possible, it says nothing about how common.

One key to to keeping married sex alive and interesting is to avoid comparisons, especially with porn, which really means to avoid porn completely. Most real people can't compete with porn in the bedroom any more than real people can compete with pros on the tennis court. If my wife compared me with Federer on the tennis court, how could I ever possibly make her happy (and vice versa)?

I remember lots of awesome marital intimacy over the years, especially the night my 18 year old daughter was conceived, and that was 8 years after we were married. There are phases. Things change over time. But on the whole, things have gotten better.
 
Booger said:
Women who initiate divorces don't do it to be alone. They divorce so they can upgrade. I know tons of single middle aged men, but only a handful of women. Just the natural order of things, I suppose.
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You should rethink how eager you are to group 50% of the population into one kind of thinking
 
kramer woodie said:
slice bs & maleyoyo

Look I am all for women being Equal. I have no intention of placing them on a false pedestal. Women are equal. Time they started acting like it.
Therefore, I have been known to say to women who question me about whether I'm married or have a lady friend, (these women are usually
over 50 as I'm 70), "I am holding out for that woman who is so stupid in love with me (I should probably sub madly in love, however less punch)
that she wants to buy me a diamond ring and pay my bills". Well the response is anger covered up with sarcasm, "Well how is that working out
for you?" To which I get to respond perfectly, "I'm still single!!!!"

Please note, a 20 year age difference is no biggie, if you're a divorced or widowed, 50 plus unmarried female. Also, my life experience has
through watching and listening revealed certain traits about the Battle of the Sexes. Elderly couple, husband says, "Our house, our kids, our
money." The wife says, "My house, my kids, my money." I called her on her statement, reminded of what her husband said, she said, "He can
just pack his bag and find out how quick it's true, it's mine." In a court paternity suit, the spectators, jury, lawyers, or judge will not spend
one nickel of their money to pay for your ******* child. The lawyers and judge will not asked the female plaintiff if she used anyone of 10
forms of birth control to avoid becoming pregnant. Instead, you'll only hear, "It is all his fault!"

I 'll not go in to the ten forms of birth control at this time, however, I give you the first one as a hint to help you compile you own list of
ten, no sex, abstain!!!

The truth is the bait only last so long. You have to get with it before the bait deteriorates. Just imagine, a man wakens to a beautiful
sunrise, the most beautiful sunrise he has ever seen in his life. He rolls over to share it with his wife of 30 years. What does he see? That
gorgeous long shiny silky hair has been cut off because it's too much work to take care of, every road in the county lines her face, the
headlights that got his attention have turned into fog lamps and the butt has spread so much he has to buy her 2 seats on an airplane to
get her to that romantic vacation getaway spot. Perfectly good way to ruin a beautiful sunrise.

Truth is I am all for marriage!!! It's just not for me! I don't know what's best for you, nor do I just jump to conclusion base on my own
imaginings to defend my ego or choices.

I do know that most girls just want to have fun, marry well, and live happily every after. Hope it works out for them. If my humor offended
you I apologize. I am sorry I caused you to feel the need to defend your choice and stickup for womanhood, especially womanhood that
declares itself EQUAL.

Aloha

P.S. Of the many (I do mean many) women who I have shared sexual pleasure with, not one of them has weighed more than 118 pounds.
They have all had been models, figure skaters, tennis players, fit trim on the slender side. The only word to describe them is svelte.
Svelte does not last with aging. Bad enough to see myself age let alone witness someone I love get old.
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Aloha!
Slice bs? Haha, nice one. Your best work in this thread!

No need to apologize if you offended me. You really, really did not offend me. Your flour joke, i was trying to point out, was sort of funny a long time ago. Sorry if i made you feel i was offended.

The Post Script above, however, is even more telling. You have actually weighed your many (and you do mean many) sexual partners. That is so beautiful. Chivalry lives ... thanks in part to Kramer woodie. You really care deeply. Gentleman to the core.

Because i am curious, and because i also care...
I do have a few Questions:
Why does svelte not last with aging? I know lots of elderly, svelte people ... your age.
Are you meeting your ladies at the Regal Beagle? The tennis/fitness club? Or at a fastfood joint?
Do you still swing a Kramer woodie? Standard headsize Autograph, pro staff, or the Kramer midsize?
When did you start playing tennis? Did you ever reach the college or pro level?
Do/did you have a healthy relationship with your mother? Did she help you model the way you and women treat one another?
How about your father?
 
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chikoo said:
Ouch. Impressing that aspect upon the kids is hurtful - for the kids. I would never do that. For one, it impresses that the mom has no respect or desire to be with the father. Which in turn also impresses that there is something terribly wrong with your father, and that I am going through a lot of pain for you (kids).


But as mature people, one needs to learn to contain that turbulence within, and not unleash it upon the kids as the kids themselves are not at fault for the rocky relationship.



Find the motivation, find a goal, but don't impress upon the kids or other (parents or in-laws) of your sacrifice. It totally demeans the worth of a sacrifice.
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He is not that bad really. It's his parents having too much control over him. It's same in my case as well that my parents control me.
His dad passed away but still his sisters and nephew controls him at times. Whenever he goes to his hometown, he returns as different person.

Most children in India even after their marriage are controlled and dictated by their parents on making a decision.
Daughter in-law are tortured too. Then again the incidents of daughter-in-laws driving away their husband's parents is also on the rise lately.
 
MathGeek said:
A sample size of one only proves it is possible, it says nothing about how common.

One key to to keeping married sex alive and interesting is to avoid comparisons, especially with porn, which really means to avoid porn completely. Most real people can't compete with porn in the bedroom any more than real people can compete with pros on the tennis court. If my wife compared me with Federer on the tennis court, how could I ever possibly make her happy (and vice versa)?

I remember lots of awesome marital intimacy over the years, especially the night my 18 year old daughter was conceived, and that was 8 years after we were married. There are phases. Things change over time. But on the whole, things have gotten better.
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Yea but Same thing over and over with same woman can only last like 6-7 years of interesting sex, that is it. Study has proven this. so we need to explore different women after that....
 
JoelDali said:
If she has a big vagina about 3 years.
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There is surgical intervention available for big vagina and small penis. You can enlarge a small penis safely, mostly girth and some length. Having surgery is better than divorce. It just tell us how important intimacy has become in modern day marriage life, not just for procreating baby any more. That was for ancient time. Nowadays woman wants bigger penis and man wants smaller vagina.
 
Marriage can break up for a variety of things. In general though, it comes to whether each part feels that the whole is better than the sum of the parts. For that to be the case, each person must selflessly contribute to the marriage to improve the other person's life. When the mode switches and each party starts feeling shortchanged by the other, the marriage is done IMO. It might be able to move forward for a while because of inertia (the delusion that "things will one day be like the good old times again"), but it's just a question of time before it will end.
 
Rusty Shackleford said:
Marriage can break up for a variety of things. In general though, it comes to whether each part feels that the whole is better than the sum of the parts. For that to be the case, each person must selflessly contribute to the marriage to improve the other person's life. When the mode switches and each party starts feeling shortchanged by the other, the marriage is done IMO. It might be able to move forward for a while because of inertia (the delusion that "things will one day be like the good old times again"), but it's just a question of time before it will end.
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Stop by for a spray?
 
Nostradamus said:
Yea but Same thing over and over with same woman can only last like 6-7 years of interesting sex, that is it. Study has proven this. so we need to explore different women after that....
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So if a study showed that men are incapable of resisting the urge to be gluttons or drunkards if food and booze are cheap, would that be a good enough excuse for those destructive misbehaviors?

"Need" is not really the right word for men's desire to move on and have sex with different women. I definitely have not needed that and neither have a number of faithful husbands and fathers I know who have been married happily for over 20 years. I experience great joy and contentment sleeping with the same woman every night.
 
kramer woodie said:
slice bs & maleyoyo

Look I am all for women being Equal. I have no intention of placing them on a false pedestal. Women are equal. Time they started acting like it.
Therefore, I have been known to say to women who question me about whether I'm married or have a lady friend, (these women are usually
over 50 as I'm 70), "I am holding out for that woman who is so stupid in love with me (I should probably sub madly in love, however less punch)
that she wants to buy me a diamond ring and pay my bills". Well the response is anger covered up with sarcasm, "Well how is that working out
for you?" To which I get to respond perfectly, "I'm still single!!!!"

Please note, a 20 year age difference is no biggie, if you're a divorced or widowed, 50 plus unmarried female. Also, my life experience has
through watching and listening revealed certain traits about the Battle of the Sexes. Elderly couple, husband says, "Our house, our kids, our
money." The wife says, "My house, my kids, my money." I called her on her statement, reminded of what her husband said, she said, "He can
just pack his bag and find out how quick it's true, it's mine." In a court paternity suit, the spectators, jury, lawyers, or judge will not spend
one nickel of their money to pay for your ******* child. The lawyers and judge will not asked the female plaintiff if she used anyone of 10
forms of birth control to avoid becoming pregnant. Instead, you'll only hear, "It is all his fault!"

I 'll not go in to the ten forms of birth control at this time, however, I give you the first one as a hint to help you compile you own list of
ten, no sex, abstain!!!

The truth is the bait only last so long. You have to get with it before the bait deteriorates. Just imagine, a man wakens to a beautiful
sunrise, the most beautiful sunrise he has ever seen in his life. He rolls over to share it with his wife of 30 years. What does he see? That
gorgeous long shiny silky hair has been cut off because it's too much work to take care of, every road in the county lines her face, the
headlights that got his attention have turned into fog lamps and the butt has spread so much he has to buy her 2 seats on an airplane to
get her to that romantic vacation getaway spot. Perfectly good way to ruin a beautiful sunrise.

Truth is I am all for marriage!!! It's just not for me! I don't know what's best for you, nor do I just jump to conclusion base on my own
imaginings to defend my ego or choices.

I do know that most girls just want to have fun, marry well, and live happily every after. Hope it works out for them. If my humor offended
you I apologize. I am sorry I caused you to feel the need to defend your choice and stickup for womanhood, especially womanhood that
declares itself EQUAL.

Aloha

P.S. Of the many (I do mean many) women who I have shared sexual pleasure with, not one of them has weighed more than 118 pounds.
They have all had been models, figure skaters, tennis players, fit trim on the slender side. The only word to describe them is svelte.
Svelte does not last with aging. Bad enough to see myself age let alone witness someone I love get old.
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Nah
I'm neither offended or defending anything.
Actually I found your post humorous, so I just poked fun at your post and single guys a bit.
No need to defend your "record" because frankly nobody cares.
 
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maleyoyo said:
Nah
I'm neither offended or defending anything.
Actually I found your post humorous, so I just poked fun at your post and single guys a bit.
No need to defend your "record" because frankly nobody cares.
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I'm waiting to see if Kramer sleeps with a 119 lb. woman.
 
fireandwind said:
There is surgical intervention available for big vagina and small penis. You can enlarge a small penis safely, mostly girth and some length. Having surgery is better than divorce. It just tell us how important intimacy has become in modern day marriage life, not just for procreating baby any more. That was for ancient time. Nowadays woman wants bigger penis and man wants smaller vagina.
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I want a big vagina capable of some heavy duty cycle with not too much wear and tear. :D
 
maleyoyo said:
Actually it's a scientifically proven fact that weight/size is one of many common fetishes.
It's ranked somewhere between foot fetish and panty fetish.
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What happened to regular people fetishes, like Prussian Nurses with a Wooden Leg, or Fedace's Sister?

Not sure where humanity is ending up at this rate. Bunch of weirdos...
 
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