What did you replace your ProStaff 6.0 85 with?

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Your ProStaff Replacement

  • Wilson nCode Tour 90

    Votes: 8 14.3%

  • Wilson K6.1 Tour 90

    Votes: 23 41.1%

  • Other (please specify in post)

    Votes: 25 44.6%
  • Total voters
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I'm a hardcore ProStaff 6.0 85 fan. All else remaining the same, I've had the best results and feel with this racquet compared to an arsenal of other models I've tried. Even friends that I play with have time and again noted that my game is best when I've played with the prostaff 85.

I've not felt the same with the nCode 90 (Feels stiffer and heavier), and K6.1 (heavier swingweight) - racquets that are descendants in the same line. I also have a Yonex RDX 500 Mid that has approached the PS 85 in some aspects (control and softness at the net), but even those have been discontinued.

My dilemma is to continue using the PS 85, and risk getting too dependent on the slim supply of used ones around, or move to a newer brand/model that is closer to the PS 85 experience.

If you've been an avid PS 85 user in the past and made a successful switch, I want to know what has been your choice.
 
I guess I've replaced my PS85s with the Dunlop HM200g.

I still use the PS85s so "replaced" isn't the best word at the moment.

Funny thing is is the Dunlop HM200g is discontinued as well as I found the M-fil 200 too flexy in the upper hoop and the Aerogel 200 feels too harsh to me.

I'm sure in another ten years, I'll be looking for another frame again......
 
Yeah someone recommended the Aerogel 200 to me. I can put it on my list to try.

Just wish Wilson had not discontinued the PS 85. Prince still makes their NXG tours and Classic Tours!

I don't understand Wilson's logic either. The 85's still have a cult following. If something sells, why would they not produce it ??!

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I don't understand Wilson's logic either. The 85's still have a cult following. If something sells, why would they not produce it ??!

:confused:[/QUOTE]

I agree 100%! These racquest have sold just as well, if not better than many of the newer frames that companies like Wilson peddle at us each & every year. New Technology they claim, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
All this ncode and Kfactor rubbish is a load of tosh. Sorry to pick on Wilson but all companies are the same. Prince Powerholes, Dunlop mFil, Babolat Cortex/Woofer. Do they emply teams of overpaid tossers to sit in offices all day and try and come up with the most ridiculous name possible?!? Idiots.
I will still use my PS 6.0 95's as I've been stocking up, no other frame has come close to the way I play when I use them. I've *****ed about Wilson ion other threads but I don't care. I'm sure I've seen somewhere a guy who's started a petition to send to Wilson to get them to re-continue the 6.0. They won't coz they're a faceless corporate, money-making machine and why should they care what real players want. Your average club player will continue to eat up all their marketing BS and buy the racquets. I guess these people don't read these forums either.
Rant. Done.:evil:
 
i went from the PS to the PS 4.2 and loved it until that too quit being offered. that was when i switched to the Mitt and the Mono
 
Now I can't confirm this, as its just a rumor, so maybe someone at TW (Granville?) can shed some light on it. But I heard from a tennis pro friend of mine who has Wilson contacts that they are planning on releasing a new racket by this years US Open that is supposed to be "very similar" to the original PS 85.

Again, I can't confirm anything. But it would make sense from a company perspective...Wilson can discontinue a classic (and good seller) racket, 'remake it' (i.e - new paintjob and name), and sell it for a premium price.
 
Well, it doesn't necessarily mean that you have recently replaced your PS85s.

If you used it back in the day and changed then, your replacement would have been a while back too.
 
goober said:
The Mitt and Mono are no longer made either right?
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yes, but i haven't broken them either... the 4.2 was a great racket, but they would break at the throat on overheads. so when they dried up, i went another route and haven't broken these. i'm down to one Mitt now and when it is gone, it is gone. The Mono on the other had now has a second in the bag and if i can get a couple more over the course of the year i think i will have my rackets for life.
 
Mitt and Mono
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Sorry I can't help myself, but those are indeed funny names for a racquet. One sounds like an infection and the other belongs in a kitchen. :D
 
i've always found racket names to be funny... the mitt is actually the mitt 'rocker' and the mono at least has to do with the throat of the racket not being 2 parts...

but, since i play like i have Mono with kitchen Mitts on my hands, they really fit my game!
 
vwfye said:
yes, but i haven't broken them either... the 4.2 was a great racket, but they would break at the throat on overheads. so when they dried up, i went another route and haven't broken these. i'm down to one Mitt now and when it is gone, it is gone. The Mono on the other had now has a second in the bag and if i can get a couple more over the course of the year i think i will have my rackets for life.
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i have acess to two brand new monos. grip size is 4 3/8 and 4 1/2 email me at poned88@aol.com if interested
 
The K90 would be the closest you can get, still not as good as the 85. As you stated, the K90 is sluggish, but has a similiar feel to the 85. For what it's worth, I switched back to the MW 200G from the PS 85, but they feel and play quite differently.
 
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the ncode to u may be a bs technology and it probably is, but the n95 sure plays well! i don't care what the technology is as long as it plays well.
 
[K]aotic;2127052 said:
the ncode to u may be a bs technology and it probably is, but the n95 sure plays well! i don't care what the technology is as long as it plays well.
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I agree. I was surprised by how well the n95 felt and played. Very comfortable, good control and spin. Hated the n90, that has to be the worst players racquet Wilson has ever made.
 
I've been looking for a while, and having gone through the n6.1 and k6.1 Tour 90...I believe I have finally settled on the kBlade Tour (with lead to get the weight up to approximately 360g).
 
The specs seem pretty good on the Prince Original Graphite. Plus I think the graphite should be close to the Graphite/Kevlar of the PS85.

Anyone recommend I add the POG to my demo list?
 
Prostaff 6.0 85 forever

Hello this is my first post. I recently bought 2 more prostaff 6.0 85 from canada so i will stick with the holly grail a little longer. But my tennis partner changed to the ncode tour and he is pretty happy with them.

Altought nothing will be like the ps85 i think the ncode are a good replacmeny. The Vantage 90 seems pretty cool.
 
i went from my PS85 to an AG200 16x19 but before that it was an HM 200g. the PS85 was a great racquet, but it was difficult for me to serve with it. everything else felt great. especially since you have to work for every shot =]
 
I actually switched to the PS 85 from the PD+ once I got to college. For the most part it holds up well....but occasionally against a great player i get pushed around (when I don't have the time to take full swings). That's why I just got some Vantage 95's to try to split the difference.
 
I will be demoing the Head Microgel Prestige Mid today. I don't know if I like a sub-12 oz racquet for my main racquet, so the Dunlop AG200 may not be for me, but hey I'll just swing it at the shop and see if its worth a demo.

As far as other suggestions go, I have a Volkl Tour 10 Gen II MP but I'm not sure I'm going to keep it. Also, I like staying within the 93 sq in head size. Larger head sizes don't go well with my game (I hate off-center hits on anything larger than a 95). So the Volkl C10 etc are out of the question.

I must say I'm disappointed Yonex never really continued on the RDX500 Mid line. I like the feel of this racquet very much and this will stay as my backup (slightly lighter) racquet. I might need to add just a tad of lead at 12 o clock to add some plough through on my backhands. (Essential for one-handers like me). Their RDS001 Mid was nothing like the RDX500 and the current RQiS seems even more quaint on specs alone..


Again I have only one of the RDX500 Mid and they seem harder to get than the PS 85s.

If I do find a worthy replacement to the PS 85 in the Head MGP, I will let you all know.
 
I still had three PS 85s until a few months ago. I had to get rid of them because they were just too heavy. (I loved them so much, I even thought of sanding them down to reduce weight.) The PS 85 did not induce TE, but after 30 minutes my arm was throbbing and tired, thus loose play.

I found the nPS and love it--lots of control, much lighter. Tennis is fun again.
 
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Head Pro Tour 280
Then on to Yonex RDti-70 88sqin.
Now play with POG Mid and - having gone forward to the past - two original Kennex Black Aces which I actually played with before the Pro Staff and always preferred. (Got them from TW when they sold them from Bosworth's stock).

Of currently manufactured rackets, I would thing the Prince Graphite would be about the closest thing left to the Pro Staff.
 
Colecash said:
Hello this is my first post. I recently bought 2 more prostaff 6.0 85 from canada so i will stick with the holly grail a little longer. But my tennis partner changed to the ncode tour and he is pretty happy with them.

Altought nothing will be like the ps85 i think the ncode are a good replacmeny. The Vantage 90 seems pretty cool.
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where from?
 
Pro Staff 6.0 95 and Avery 95 control

I've been playing with the Pro Staf 6.0 95 and the Avery M3 95 control. I feel that they are pretty similar with the following notes:

. The PS seems to be a little more head light, just a little
. The Avery seems to be a little more well balance
. Good topspin on both sides with the Avery but slide backhand is better with the PS
. The Avery seems to have a little more pop on serve
. Nice weight and feel for both racket
. I strung the Avery at 53lb with Luxilon Power Rough
. Avery M3 control is readily available on TW

you may want to try out the Avery M3 control and see if it meets your need.
 
Soundbyte said:
I actually switched to the PS 85 from the PD+ once I got to college. For the most part it holds up well....but occasionally against a great player i get pushed around (when I don't have the time to take full swings). That's why I just got some Vantage 95's to try to split the difference.
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Thats a big change going from the PS85 to the PD+. Those are both completely different rackets.
 
I actually went from the PD+ to the PS85. I had 2 rackets inbetween there (a period of about 2 months).

I went from the i.prestige MP to the PD+. After using the PD+ for 3 years, I switched to the M-Fil 200+ 2006 Edition for about 2 weeks (while waiting for my new rackets), then switched to the PS 6.0 95. After using those for about 4 weeks, I ordered a PS 85 on a whim, and immediately switched. Been using it ever since
 
I have tried(and own) these rackets in my unsuccessfull search: Estusa pbb, ps 6.0 95, Fischer pro90, Head flexpoint mid, K90, Vantage90, ps tour90... these are only my mids, answer is.. nothing comes close. I will search for more 85s somewhere on the net to buy more. By the way, the reason i can compete with the ps85 still could be the fact that i use very low tension, 42lbs, the whole 85sq.in is a sweetspot ;) also i like the china version the best actually(yes i have tried the other ones) :)
 
Koeliekoelie said:
PS Tour 90 US version

Now I'm experimenting PS Tour 90 asian version
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The AK Factor 90 is a better racquet. Iplayed both and the AK is a better feeling racquet. It has more spin, so serves are stronger. You should try the AK 90 and see how it feels.
 
I couldn't get a Head MG Prestige demo from my local shop. So based on everyone's recommendations here and my own research on specs, I ordered these for demo from TW -

Dunlop Aerogel 200
Head Microgel Prestige Mid
Prince Original Graphite
Technifibre TFight 335 (16x20)

They are set to arrive on Friday. I will have them a whole week and I can do a detailed playtest review if this interests anyone. I can post it in this thread, unless there is a way I can get it to be on the official TW playtests page. (How do I go about doing that?)
 
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PS 6.095 as someone else here has done. Been stocking up since i heard the terrible news. Also got a couple of Redondos and they are sweet!
 
...continued from above

I chose to ignore some other racquets that fit the criteria and recommended by you guys for various reasons:

1) Not produced currently and/or hard to get - e.g., i Prestige or PS 6.0 95s etc

2) Head size larger than 95 sq in - I made an exception for the TFight, but in general I don't like larger head sizes (just my preference). Volkl C10 didn't make it for that reason. (I'm not sure its a great reason to exclude the volkl, but I want to steer away from getting used to anything unique like their grips - harder to resell too)

3) Unfamiliar brands - I'm not familiar with brands like Avery so I tried to keep myself to the one's I know.

If you still think I'm missing something really good, please let me know
 
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...continued

The case against nCode 90 and K90
A lot of you obviously moved to the latest offerings from Wilson given that they are so close to the PS 85 on paper and also close enough in feel that they make suitable replacements.

I own all three - PS 85, nCode 90 and K90. To confirm or disprove my misgivings about the latter two, I took all three to practice last weekend. I started with my PS 85 and got into a rhythm and then switched to the K90 first and then the nCode.

While this may not be true for many of you, but I did find a considerable difference in swingweight from the PS 85 on both the nCode and K90. The nCode also felt a lot harsher, whereas the K90 was closer in flex to the PS 85.

All said, my choice is to either ignore these differences and adopt one of them as my main racquet (nCode or K90), or to try alternatives from other brands.

After my demo of the racquets I mentioned previously, I will make that call. I'm inclined to move away from the latest Wilsons simply because they chose NOT to keep the PS 85 intact in production and give it due respect (like Prince does for POG)

But let's see...
 
nikdom said:
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The case against nCode 90 and K90
A lot of you obviously moved to the latest offerings from Wilson given that they are so close to the PS 85 on paper and also close enough in feel that they make suitable replacements.

I own all three - PS 85, nCode 90 and K90. To confirm or disprove my misgivings about the latter two, I took all three to practice last weekend. I started with my PS 85 and got into a rhythm and then switched to the K90 first and then the nCode.

While this may not be true for many of you, but I did find a considerable difference in swingweight from the PS 85 on both the nCode and K90. The nCode also felt a lot harsher, whereas the K90 was closer in flex to the PS 85.

All said, my choice is to either ignore these differences and adopt one of them as my main racquet (nCode or K90), or to try alternatives from other brands.

After my demo of the racquets I mentioned previously, I will make that call. I'm inclined to move away from the latest Wilsons simply because they chose NOT to keep the PS 85 intact in production and give it due respect (like Prince does for POG)

But let's see...
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I agree with your last comment. I'm only with Wilson for the moment coz I can still get hold of the 6.0 95, even if they are 2nd hand.
If I couldn't, Wilson would be losing me as a loyal customer/user coz of the decision to not to continue as mentioned above.
 
Back in the '80s I played the PS 85 for a couple years. Replaced it with the Rossignol F-200. Been through a lot of racquets since then and am currently using the Prince Original Graphite Mid.

TripleB
 
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