What disappointed me at the end of Federer-Djokovich

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This was a great match. Usually when after such a long, hard fought match finishes, the two players hug each other. Not so in this case. Roger just gives Novak a brief handshake and looks away, and as he walks away has to state that "I could have been the winner"...

I am Swiss, but what has always disturbed me about Federer is how he reacts in defeat.

Novak and Rafa hugged each other at the end of their match.
 
Rafa and Novak get along with each other much better than Federer does with them. They were doubles partners, they gamble with each other in Monte Carlo every year and they're just generally amicable.
 
It was a warm handshake and they spoke a few words, whats the problem. Its not like a Soderling/WTA handshake so I dont see the problem.
 
Dude Federer gave a nice smile and was on his way. Whats the problem? Djokovic hugged Nadal because it was the final. Roddick doesnt really deal with defeat that well either but in the finals he lost to Federer, he gave a hug and acted nice. The stage is too big in a final to give a cold handshake.
 
The problem is with his attitude. When Rafa won the Australian Open, he ruined the awards ceremony by crying for ten minutes, hogging the coverage.

Another point is that he doesn't "have the time" to play Davis cup for Switzerland, and no Swiss journalist has the guts to criticize him for it.

I saw him playing as a junior in Switzerland, smashing rackets and crying when he'd lose. He only changed when he started winning. He is a great player, but a bad loser.
 
gzhpcu said:
This was a great match. Usually when after such a long, hard fought match finishes, the two players hug each other. Not so in this case. Roger just gives Novak a brief handshake and looks away, and as he walks away has to state that "I could have been the winner"...

I am Swiss, but what has always disturbed me about Federer is how he reacts in defeat.

Novak and Rafa hugged each other at the end of their match.
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Afterwards, Nadal also went back to Djokovic's seat where Novak was slumped in defeat and gave him another hug to console him, which I thought to be very nice. You do not often see that in major finals or important matches. The second hug shows that Djokovic and Nadal do genuinely like and respect the other guy. But I can't find the clip on tube. Hope somebody will post it.
 
1970CRBase said:
Afterwards, Nadal also went back to Djokovic's seat where Novak was slumped in defeat and gave him another hug to console him, which I thought to be very nice. You do not often see that in major finals or important matches. The second hug shows that Djokovic and Nadal do genuinely like and respect the other guy. But I can't find the clip on tube. Hope somebody will post it.
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That was awesome.

I think it's a question of generation, Nadal Djoko and Murray are 23/24, Fed is older.
He reacted pretty well here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPICTxZRVpA
 
gzhpcu said:
The problem is with his attitude. When Rafa won the Australian Open, he ruined the awards ceremony by crying for ten minutes, hogging the coverage.

Another point is that he doesn't "have the time" to play Davis cup for Switzerland, and no Swiss journalist has the guts to criticize him for it.

I saw him playing as a junior in Switzerland, smashing rackets and crying when he'd lose. He only changed when he started winning. He is a great player, but a bad loser.
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blah blah ... Federer ... blah blah ... arrogant ... Blah blah ... sore loser ... Blah blah...

:) mimicing drak.
 
gzhpcu said:
The problem is with his attitude. When Rafa won the Australian Open, he ruined the awards ceremony by crying for ten minutes, hogging the coverage.

Another point is that he doesn't "have the time" to play Davis cup for Switzerland, and no Swiss journalist has the guts to criticize him for it.

I saw him playing as a junior in Switzerland, smashing rackets and crying when he'd lose. He only changed when he started winning. He is a great player, but a bad loser.
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exactly my thoughts

for example: after the 2008 Wimbledon he said about his defeat ''It's a disaster...''
come one, a tsunami is a disaster, don't dramatize a match loss
nobody likes to lose but my opinion is that being so much on top got to his head, plus he was a whiner when he was younger so that could explain him being (IMO) a sore loser
 
Boy, you fellas sure are right! That danged old Federer and his lack luster handshakes. This reminds of something else he does that I just HATE, HATE, HATE. He goes to Africa for his charity, and gives all these kids that darned money of his. Federer has kids YOUUUUUUUUUUUU know???!!!! How can he spend money on other peoples kidzzzzzzz??? It really is disturbing to see such lack luster parenting. I even heard that he and Mirka hired a nanny while he is playing. Can you believe this?

If you consider this post mildly insane, then consider what else you have read on here and think twice. To the OP, does it really matter? It's a handshake. How many pathetic handshakes have you given your whole life? I bet it wasn't broadcast on a forum, because lets face it, the most coverage you've gotten is on this forum. WAIT!!! That's the answer to all these absurd and idiotic posts. Attention.
 
Hangtenclayton said:
Boy, you fellas sure are right! That danged old Federer and his lack luster handshakes. This reminds of something else he does that I just HATE, HATE, HATE. He goes to Africa for his charity, and gives all these kids that darned money of his. Federer has kids YOUUUUUUUUUUUU know???!!!! How can he spend money on other peoples kidzzzzzzz??? It really is disturbing to see such lack luster parenting. I even heard that he and Mirka hired a nanny while he is playing. Can you believe this?

If you consider this post mildly insane, then consider what else you have read on here and think twice. To the OP, does it really matter? It's a handshake. How many pathetic handshakes have you given your whole life? I bet it wasn't broadcast on a forum, because lets face it, the most coverage you've gotten is on this forum. WAIT!!! That's the answer to all these absurd and idiotic posts. Attention.
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oh right, right, I totally forgot
he does stuff for charity,that means he isn't a sore loser
 
To be fair to fed & give credit where due at this years USO, he didnt take out his frustrations on the chair ump again like last year & he also refrained from throwing bottles around floor for ball kids to pick up while displaying that unpleasant disparaging sneer across his face.
 
You guys all have it wrong. Being angry and not smiling is in fact the most honest reaction there is. You just lost a slam! Inside everyone is completely pissed. All others reactions are BS and lies people have been brainwashed with when they were kids. I'm not implying Novak or Rafa were spurious in their reactions, but they were (especially Rafa) brainwashed reactions put on them by their upbringing. That kind of stupidity makes you suppress your true emotions and can lead to eventual physical problems later in life. Always react in the most honest way possible as long as you don't hurt anyone else and you do it in a calm and honest way. Unfortunately, most people never come into their own until the end of their life nears.
 
I think it is more of a generation thing. Him and Roddick get along really well, as do Hewitt and Roddick, despite an unfriendly past.

That being said, I get the feeling Rog really doesnt like Djokovic. We know that hes gotten ticked at Djokovic's parents, and has in past questioned whether Djokovic was a quitter
 
What, is this what you wanted to see?

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(from the Federer photoshopped thread)
 
gzhpcu said:
Another point is that he doesn't "have the time" to play Davis cup for Switzerland, and no Swiss journalist has the guts to criticize him for it.
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He never plays Davis Cup because the team has nothing besides him. Chiudinelli and Wawa never really got the job done. What is the point in wasting energy with DC if you no chance to win it.
 
gzhpcu said:
This was a great match. Usually when after such a long, hard fought match finishes, the two players hug each other. Not so in this case. Roger just gives Novak a brief handshake and looks away, and as he walks away has to state that "I could have been the winner"...

I am Swiss, but what has always disturbed me about Federer is how he reacts in defeat.

Novak and Rafa hugged each other at the end of their match.
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It's Djokovic not Djokovich
 
gzhpcu said:
Another point is that he doesn't "have the time" to play Davis cup for Switzerland, and no Swiss journalist has the guts to criticize him for it.
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Would you be ok if he had played the Davis cup every year & won only 3 to 4 Grand Slams? Which accomplished was more important for Swiss, winning Davis cup or winning 16 Majors?
 
gzhpcu said:
I saw him playing as a junior in Switzerland, smashing rackets and crying when he'd lose. He only changed when he started winning. He is a great player, but a bad loser.
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Fed speaking about his younger years in the Charlie Rose 2004 interview: "I was a terrible loser."

He knows, and as you say has improved somewhat; I'm sure he's doing his best. Most people aren't perfect and Fed surely isn't.

Thought he handled the Djoko loss fine, gave an OK PC as well.
 
Omega_7000 said:
Would you be ok if he had played the Davis cup every year & won only 3 to 4 Grand Slams? Which accomplished was more important for Swiss, winning Davis cup or winning 16 Majors?
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He's said in multiple interviews he doesn't think he could have won GS's to the extent he did if he'd also played DC.

Nowadays, one can say he's no longer dominant or number one anyway so he might as well play. But of course his health/stamina isn't what it was either and he's trying what he can to improve his form.
 
Fedbelly said:
Out of genuine interest, what sort of physical problems are you refering to?
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To be blunt, all of those chronic illnesses which modern medicine is completely useless at treating. Eg, back problems, inexplicable aches and pains, digestive problems, and many others. All have a cause, but doctor's don't know crap about them. Emotional problems and mind illness are often the root cause.
 
Well, no surprise because Federer probably has a higher opinion of his own tennis and rightfully so. His brand of tennis is as perfect as you can get, being a mix of today's spin-heavy power play as well as the finesse of yesteryear. I don't blame him for being a little less gracious when he's a loser than when he's a winner. When you lose to an inferior opponent of course your not feeling happy. The problem is Fed is getting older so even though he plays a better brand of tennis, he's not going to win as much when players like Nadal and others are overpowering him. It's not that they are playing better tennis they're just executing better while Fed loses the match on UEs.
 
gzhpcu said:
The problem is with his attitude. When Rafa won the Australian Open, he ruined the awards ceremony by crying for ten minutes, hogging the coverage.

Another point is that he doesn't "have the time" to play Davis cup for Switzerland, and no Swiss journalist has the guts to criticize him for it.

I saw him playing as a junior in Switzerland, smashing rackets and crying when he'd lose. He only changed when he started winning. He is a great player, but a bad loser.
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What is wrong with you? Tennis has to be the only sport in which the fans will get angry with a player for not embracing his opponent after a loss.

Fed shook Djokovic's hand, congratulated him, and was very friendly. You're seriously mad because he didn't hug him?
 
gzhpcu said:
The problem is with his attitude. When Rafa won the Australian Open, he ruined the awards ceremony by crying for ten minutes, hogging the coverage.

Another point is that he doesn't "have the time" to play Davis cup for Switzerland, and no Swiss journalist has the guts to criticize him for it.

I saw him playing as a junior in Switzerland, smashing rackets and crying when he'd lose. He only changed when he started winning. He is a great player, but a bad loser.
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But he didn't "hog" the ceremony. In fact after the tears started flowing he tried to get out of the limelight as soon as he could, even going so far as to say to the crowd that Rafa's the winner who deserves their attention. I found the gesture genuine and classy.

Don't disagree with you on his indifference to Davis Cup.

Borg was also like that as a junior, but as a mature pro became the "Ice Man." I do agree that Federer doesn't take losses very well, but the same can be said of many if not most other top players.
 
Berdasco said:
You guys all have it wrong. Being angry and not smiling is in fact the most honest reaction there is. You just lost a slam! Inside everyone is completely pissed. All others reactions are BS and lies people have been brainwashed with when they were kids. I'm not implying Novak or Rafa were spurious in their reactions, but they were (especially Rafa) brainwashed reactions put on them by their upbringing. That kind of stupidity makes you suppress your true emotions and can lead to eventual physical problems later in life. Always react in the most honest way possible as long as you don't hurt anyone else and you do it in a calm and honest way. Unfortunately, most people never come into their own until the end of their life nears.
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Yeah let us get rid of all other social niceties too while we are at it. Let us start by making it a point of telling the grocery cashier that she is in that position because she is not good for anything else. Also make it a point of telling every old man that he is a waste of carbon footprint.
 
First off it wasn’t a great match. It was actually an awful match an the players knew it. Many unforced errors and missed opportunities under difficult conditions. What made the match great was the excitement of the score, not the tennis itself. If you have an uber high quality match like Nadal / Fed wim 2008 or Nadal / Verdasco Aus 2009 then you feel like you’ve just been through an epic battle and something special. There was nothing special about Fed / Djok except for the blown match points.
 
I've no problem with Federer keeping a healthy distance from the opponents, instead of accolading and high-fiving everybody.

Respect, even when seen by others as cold, is healthy.
 
I was rooting for Federer, but I have to admit he doesn't take losing well...that's quite obvious. Djokovic took it quite well (I really liked when Nadal handed him the "check" and he pockets it, funny moment...), but then again, Djokovic isn't as used to winning slams as Rafa or Roger.
 
sureshs said:
Yeah let us get rid of all other social niceties too while we are at it. Let us start by making it a point of telling the grocery cashier that she is in that position because she is not good for anything else. Also make it a point of telling every old man that he is a waste of carbon footprint.
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Agreed. After all, it's only a matter of time before overpopulation controls will be enforced by the wealthy. Then there won't be any such old men around. Isn't that special.
 
dman72 said:
I was rooting for Federer, but I have to admit he doesn't take losing well...that's quite obvious. Djokovic took it quite well (I really liked when Nadal handed him the "check" and he pockets it, funny moment...), but then again, Djokovic isn't as used to winning slams as Rafa or Roger.
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Well you can't blame Federer for not taking this loss well after wasting 2 MPs. Can't compare with Djoko who was aware that he was outplayed by Nadal. Fed is always gracious in defeat, you can understand his disappointment.
Having said that I really like Novak's attitude in defeat. He really has a kind of warm brotherly heart.
 
Nadalfan89 said:
Rafa and Novak get along with each other much better than Federer does with them. They were doubles partners, they gamble with each other in Monte Carlo every year and they're just generally amicable.
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why do you always have to bring up nadal?

go away troll, nobody cares you worship nadal
 
gzhpcu said:
This was a great match. Usually when after such a long, hard fought match finishes, the two players hug each other. Not so in this case. Roger just gives Novak a brief handshake and looks away, and as he walks away has to state that "I could have been the winner"...

I am Swiss, but what has always disturbed me about Federer is how he reacts in defeat.

Novak and Rafa hugged each other at the end of their match.
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I didn't see anything wrong with the handshake. You can't possibly expect a guy who just had 2 MPs to be all warm and loving. It was a respectful handshake. I actually think Fed and Novak get along today much better than they did back in 2008. They seem a lot friendlier with each other.
 
sureshs said:
Yeah let us get rid of all other social niceties too while we are at it. Let us start by making it a point of telling the grocery cashier that she is in that position because she is not good for anything else. Also make it a point of telling every old man that he is a waste of carbon footprint.
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Maybe Federer has Tourette syndrome.
 
Hmm...I seem to remember Federer seeming pretty normal. You want him to hug Djokovic? Some people aren't huggers. Not a problem at all. For a guy, Nadal is pretty affectionate. I don't see too many players giving anyone "warm embraces" win or lose...I mean when he beat Verdasco and hugged him, it looked sorta like a little kid clinging onto his dad, for lack of a better description.

I see nothing wrong with Federer's handshake whatsoever. He was actually pretty gracious from what I remember in his presser too. A lot better than the Berdych one from Wimbledon.

Seems like some are looking for drama where none exists.
 
HunterST said:
What is wrong with you? Tennis has to be the only sport in which the fans will get angry with a player for not embracing his opponent after a loss.

Fed shook Djokovic's hand, congratulated him, and was very friendly. You're seriously mad because he didn't hug him?
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IDK, he could have been like LeBron and just walked off w/o a handshake after he lost.

But I agree w/ your main point. Just like in another thread where people were discussing how 'cold' the embrace between Clijsters and Venus was. It's nonsense. Sometimes when you lose, you're p!ssed and it's hard to put on a nice face after you've spent your energy. Plus in Fed's case he probably knows that he should have won, so that stings even more.

All in all, much ado about nothing (seems to be the case often on here lately).
 
gzhpcu said:
This was a great match. Usually when after such a long, hard fought match finishes, the two players hug each other. Not so in this case. Roger just gives Novak a brief handshake and looks away, and as he walks away has to state that "I could have been the winner"...

I am Swiss, but what has always disturbed me about Federer is how he reacts in defeat.

Novak and Rafa hugged each other at the end of their match.
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If memory serves me right, Novak was in his side stand still for a minute and also He really could have been the winner and had He won he would have been the US Open winner.
jamesblakefan#1 said:
IDK, he could have been like LeBron and just walked off w/o a handshake after he lost.

But I agree w/ your main point. Just like in another thread where people were discussing how 'cold' the embrace between Clijsters and Venus was. It's nonsense. Sometimes when you lose, you're p!ssed and it's hard to put on a nice face after you've spent your energy. Plus in Fed's case he probably knows that he should have won, so that stings even more.

All in all, much ado about nothing (seems to be the case often on here lately).
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I agree 100%
 
gzhpcu said:
The problem is with his attitude. When Rafa won the Australian Open, he ruined the awards ceremony by crying for ten minutes, hogging the coverage.

Another point is that he doesn't "have the time" to play Davis cup for Switzerland, and no Swiss journalist has the guts to criticize him for it.

I saw him playing as a junior in Switzerland, smashing rackets and crying when he'd lose. He only changed when he started winning. He is a great player, but a bad loser.
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Dude, you need to cut the guy some slack. He's an emotional dude, he cries when he wins too. His emotions get the better of him.

I have trouble believing that you are from Switzerland when you should know full well that Federer carried that team for years with no help from anyone. You sound like a Nadal fan in disguise considering Nadal has skipped plenty of Davis Cup in his time, yet never seems to get the criticism that Federer gets for it.
 
This loss was not just any loss, you have to realize that. I've seen Federer wish his opponent luck when he loses. Not everyone is bosom buddies.
 
OP, you're one of them fancy lads, aren't you? What's the matter, little Nancy? Did someone not get enough hugs from mommy? Awe, what's with the pouty face? You were robbed of seeing two men hugging each other but it's OK. Here you go.

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Fedex said:
Wonder what the worst ever over the net reaction was?
I'm sure McEnroe must be up there.
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Enough with these sissy hugging craps. I'd love to see more of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfqp8QEsrds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIYdC4TX_G8&feature=related
 
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