What do people think of Alex de Minaur?

TimHenmanATG

Hall of Fame
At only 19-years-old, yet now World Number 31, he seems to be quietly going under the radar. He seems to be progressing at a much faster rate than many of the other more vaunted ''Next Gen'' candidates.

I have to admit that I don't think I've ever actually watched one of his matches live, and have only seen a few excerpts on YouTube, now and again.

I haven't seen anything particularly captivating or remarkable about his play, which is probably one of the reasons why his progress hasn't been noted as much. His power and placement is impressive, but he looks like another guy who stands a mile behind the baseline and attempts to retrieve everything like a maniac.

What are your thoughts on him?
 

Milehigh5280

Professional
I like him. Even though he blew a two set lead to Cilic as the USO, he showed a lot of heart and fight that other young Aussie players lack. The problem is, he doesn't have the same amount of talent as them. He could prove me wrong, but I see him as a solid top 25 to 15 player.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
At only 19-years-old, yet now World Number 31, he seems to be quietly going under the radar. He seems to be progressing at a much faster rate than many of the other more vaunted ''Next Gen'' candidates.

I have to admit that I don't think I've ever actually watched one of his matches live, and have only seen a few excerpts on YouTube, now and again.

I haven't seen anything particularly captivating or remarkable about his play, which is probably one of the reasons why his progress hasn't been noted as much. His power and placement is impressive, but he looks like another guy who stands a mile behind the baseline and attempts to retrieve everything like a maniac.

What are your thoughts on him?
Possibly the fastest player on tour. A touch on the short side, but has a lot of serve for his age and height which bodes well for him. The Demon is tenacious to say the least. de Minaur is a counter puncher much of the time. He's actually had a lot of development on clay, but doesn't currently have the power to succeed on clay. Australian through and through, but one parent from Spain and other from Uruguay. He's spent half his life in Spain and much of his tennis time so its hard to believe with his speed and time on the surface that he won't eventually have the power to succeed on clay. The scrappiest player I've ever seen and a joy to watch. de Minaur did just take a set from Thiem in Davis Cup on clay and was up 4-2 in the final set before collapsing. He's got the game to compete on all surfaces and will easily be a top ten player with time. He's got to keep making progress on serve game or he's likely not going to be efficient enough to win a slam.
 

Standaa

G.O.A.T.
His game is not particularly interesting, but so far from what I’ve seen, he’s probably the most likeable NextGen guy.
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
If he plays his cards right he could be the next Mailman.

Seriously though, pair of 3rd round appearances these last 2 majors is no small feat. Only time will tell if he can build on this, or regress from a point of promise like the rest of his generation.
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
Tenacious as heck but has no firepower to get through the big guys.

He will probably win something big someday though just due to his mentality. Very underrated quality.
 

TimHenmanATG

Hall of Fame
Possibly the fastest player on tour. A touch on the short side, but has a lot of serve for his age and height which bodes well for him. The Demon is tenacious to say the least. de Minaur is a counter puncher much of the time. He's actually had a lot of development on clay, but doesn't currently have the power to succeed on clay. Australian through and through, but one parent from Spain and other from Uruguay. He's spent half his life in Spain and much of his tennis time so its hard to believe with his speed and time on the surface that he won't eventually have the power to succeed on clay. The scrappiest player I've ever seen and a joy to watch. de Minaur did just take a set from Thiem in Davis Cup on clay and was up 4-2 in the final set before collapsing. He's got the game to compete on all surfaces and will easily be a top ten player with time. He's got to keep making progress on serve game or he's likely not going to be efficient enough to win a slam.

Even so I may disagree agree with some of your assessments of ''Next Gen'' players, I admire your good-natured enthusiasm and passion surrounding the young guns.

You are a true fan of the beautiful sport of tennis, my friend.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Definitely haven’t been letting him go under my radar as an Aussie. He’s got a great game and is a nice guy (here’s looking at you Nick). Fantastic year with some great wins. Didn’t have a meteoric rise like Tsitsipas which I think is good cause then when the failures come (like how Tsit went on like a 4 match losing streak after making the Masters final), it isn’t highlighted as much.

He’s a bit short but he doesn’t let that impact him too much, Hewitt was pretty short too but he won 2 slams.

He still has room to improve but with Hewitt in his box and more consistent results and now seedings at slams and bigger events, he could be top 15 by end of 2019.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Yeah, at 1,83 (ATP) or 1,84 (Wikipedia) he's quite short. Like 1,5 cm shorter than Nadal or Federer.
No way he's even 5'11.

Here's 6' Donald Young according to ATP/wiki:
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Meles

Bionic Poster
Even so I may disagree agree with some of your assessments of ''Next Gen'' players, I admire your good-natured enthusiasm and passion surrounding the young guns.

You are a true fan of the beautiful sport of tennis, my friend.
You have to color your views with level at age. Its just unreasonable to expect any player these days to have the results of the Big 4 who all benefited from the transition to Poly rendering extinct most of the all court tennis players. I mean we are talking Baghdatis is the youngest player of any all court merit under Fed. Deliciano has had a nice career, but just a top 30 player. The young players today have had to deal with Big 3 (4, 5) still with prime game left in them blocking the way and no technology change advantaging them. I'd also say Agassi/Sampras/Courier/Chang broke in at an opportune time. Wilander, McEnroe, and even Lendl really did not get state of the art graphite frames until late in their career while the younger guys played with great rackets from a young age.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Are you blind? His game and attitude are top notch. He'll win a grand slam before many of the others do. He's more likely to win a grand slam than Murray is at this point.
Like I like Murray too lmao. What does me not liking his tyle of play/attitude have to do with what he achieves?
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
Are you blind? His game and attitude are top notch. He'll win a grand slam before many of the others do. He's more likely to win a grand slam than Murray is at this point.
Agree his attitude is top notch, his game is still to develop. It's early to say he will win a Slam soon ("before many others do")..
 

AM75

Hall of Fame
There’s long been talk about how Hewitts height has been lied about just like how Diego Schwartzman is listed at 5”7 even though he is clearly shorter.
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/how-many-people-think-schwartzman-is-57.601622/

Here’s conversation from over FOURTEEN years ago on this forum with people question Lleytons height.
https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/hewitts-height.5981/
Don’t be stupid AM75.

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He's taller than Hewitt. See above.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
It’s almost like the players lie about their height? Apparently it’s a foreign concept to AM75.
Let's get to the truth on this. Shapo's height may be exaggerated as well
shapovalov-tsitsipas-fritz-stockholm-2018.jpg

Shapo looks like a pygmy next to 193 cm Tsitsipas and Fritz. Shapo and Demon both listed as 183cm and 6' 0" by ATP. Shapo looks five inches shorter here.
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
Let's get to the truth on this. Shapo's height may be exaggerated as well
shapovalov-tsitsipas-fritz-stockholm-2018.jpg

Shapo looks like a pygmy next to 193 cm Tsitsipas and Fritz. Shapo and Demon both listed as 183cm and 6' 0" by ATP. Shapo looks five inches shorter here.
If you want to discuss height based on pictures randomly taken, good luck.
 

Druss

Hall of Fame
I think he's going somewhere. I like the guy and hope he makes it to the top. He seems to have the right work ethic and does not let emotions get the better of him on the court. I also like his game, he mixes it up a bit, has variety... not bad at the net too, hopefully with Hewitt by his side, can improve that part even more. Lol at those comparing him to Ferrer! The guy is not that short, for the record he's the same height as Wawrinka, which is a bit taller than Agassi. His game is nothing like Ferrer's.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
Problem is in real terms he's probably the same height as Hewitt...ie the average is more than an inch taller than 20 years ago, so De Minaur is the same height relative to the field.
But how tall is he? Just over 5' 11" makes a big difference these days versus 6'. Serve is just a big, big thing these days.
 

reaper

Legend
Definitely haven’t been letting him go under my radar as an Aussie. He’s got a great game and is a nice guy (here’s looking at you Nick). Fantastic year with some great wins. Didn’t have a meteoric rise like Tsitsipas which I think is good cause then when the failures come (like how Tsit went on like a 4 match losing streak after making the Masters final), it isn’t highlighted as much.

He’s a bit short but he doesn’t let that impact him too much, Hewitt was pretty short too but he won 2 slams.

He still has room to improve but with Hewitt in his box and more consistent results and now seedings at slams and bigger events, he could be top 15 by end of 2019.

De Minaur's ranking move has been meteoric. He's risen from 208 to 31 this year. Shapovalov went from 250 to 50 last year, while Tsitsipas went from 91 to 15 this year. De Minaur hasn't had a spectacular Masters or slam performance but his ranking rise was just about as quick as they get.
 

TimHenmanATG

Hall of Fame
It’s cute because here’s a photo of Federer and Hewitt side by side. That’s 1.5CM? Lmao.


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You can't compare two people's heights unless they are standing up straight in the same posture.

Federer is near enough straight in this picture, whereas Hewitt is leaning in.

In addition, Roger has wider shoulders, a thicker neck, and a larger skull than Lleyton. These proportions give the inaccurate impression that the height/size difference is much larger than the physical measurements.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
OK, next to Jordan Thompson here on right
australias-davis-cup-captain-lleyton-hewitt-john-millman-alex-de-picture-id1032690080

Both are listed at 183 cm or 6 feet and Demon definitely 2 cm shorter. So 181 cm seems accurate which is 5' 11":rolleyes:
 

TimHenmanATG

Hall of Fame
Let's get to the truth on this. Shapo's height may be exaggerated as well
shapovalov-tsitsipas-fritz-stockholm-2018.jpg

Shapo looks like a pygmy next to 193 cm Tsitsipas and Fritz. Shapo and Demon both listed as 183cm and 6' 0" by ATP. Shapo looks five inches shorter here.

Tsitsipas is standing straight, but Shapovalov is slightly hunched, so this is not a fair comparison.

If Denis stands straight, then the top of his head will probably be level to Stefanos' eyes. So the 10cm (4'') stated difference in their heights seem pretty reasonable.
 

AM75

Hall of Fame
OK, next to Jordan Thompson here on right
australias-davis-cup-captain-lleyton-hewitt-john-millman-alex-de-picture-id1032690080

Both are listed at 183 cm or 6 feet and Demon definitely 2 cm shorter. So 181 cm seems accurate which is 5' 11":rolleyes:

He's 19, so he'd probably added a couple of cm since this pic was taken. And probably will grow up a bit more.
 
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S'in-net

Semi-Pro
De Minaur has good hands - his half volley from the baseline when rushed is not a defensive stroke. Also looks very stilish
Movement is like Nadal/Borg - Top echelon

Seems to have the Connors glitch - In that he loves pace, but doesn't know what to do when the opponent bases a whole match strategy on depriving him of pace (see De Minaur- Medvedev Winston Salem 2018)

Temperament also like Borg - Top echelon

Is hungry as well - Makes him dangerous

Only improvements forecast - Ranking will reflect level of improvement and sub-reflect level of hunger
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
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Oh, look, Hewitt is almost a half head taller!
LMAO. You really think the way they’re leaning hunched over in that photo is even close to how they’re standing in the Fed/Hewitt photo? Man you really will do anything to troll my posts, grow up.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
You can't compare two people's heights unless they are standing up straight in the same posture.

Federer is near enough straight in this picture, whereas Hewitt is leaning in.

In addition, Roger has wider shoulders, a thicker neck, and a larger skull than Lleyton. These proportions give the inaccurate impression that the height/size difference is much larger than the physical measurements.
I think you and I and anyone can tell that there is more than 1.5CM difference between these two.

Federer_Hewitt_3165210b.jpg
 

FedLIKEnot

Professional
I dont mean this as a slight but a more athletic Gilles Simon? He doesnt have to many "+" weapons but he is competent and is an amazing mover. Would love to see him develop his stroke patterns a little bit cause he does move so well he could get people wide and off the court more from a defensive position as he does move so well. That could be his weapon.....
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
De Minaur's ranking move has been meteoric. He's risen from 208 to 31 this year. Shapovalov went from 250 to 50 last year, while Tsitsipas went from 91 to 15 this year. De Minaur hasn't had a spectacular Masters or slam performance but his ranking rise was just about as quick as they get.
No slam 4R or Master QF’s or Masters finals or any tour titles or any top 10 wins. His rise has been big but isn’t comparable to Tsitsipas.
 
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