What do you all think of Cameron Norrie?

Honestly, he’s a crime against tennis and I say this as someone who saw him play live. Not as bad as AdM but still
 
Sampras-Bruguera 1993 said:
Norrie isn't gonna do anything of note. (I mean he almost blew a match to a guy that couldn't even run LOL) . I would be more worried about Carlos. Another week, another injury. You can't keep going like that
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Be honest, the only thing you're worried about is adorning this place with endless bait
 
#3 in The Race To 2023 Turin.
Nice.

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I like the guy and his tennis whilst not spectacular is still pretty decent to watch. I still think he's a journeyman who is benefitting greatly from a very weak field right now but that shouldn't take away from him doing what he needs to do. Excellent start to the year for him so I don't want to go overboard in insulting him and he played some pretty damn good tennis in beating Alcaraz at Rio. He's kind of a discount Ferrer for me right now.
 
Very good consistent player. Lacks a knockout punch and ability to take over a match.
To me he’s a consistent top 10-15 player. Nothing exciting. Will get some titles here and there. Game doesn’t really threaten some of the better players in grand slam events to win in 5 sets.
 
ChrisJR3264 said:
Very good consistent player. Lacks a knockout punch and ability to take over a match.
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Definitely his main weakness. Norrie is probably one of the best around at working a point and extending the rally, but against the top guys he just doesn't have that extra gear, the haymaker. We even saw it against Gasquet in Auckland — Gasman could take his game up to levels that Norrie couldn't hang with.
 
I think everyone underestimates him. The way he dresses, makes him look like a good club player than a pro.
I saw him at Cincy. Sneaky court coverage. Doesn't seem lighting fast or explosive, but gets to a lot of stuff from a balanced position.

For such a top level player, his strokes appear off. That high funky take back on the forehand, the hanging leaning backhand then one of the longest pauses in the trophy position. Yet he know how to use them well.
I was amazed how much he leans on the backhand and how far out front he hits it.
 
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Norrie made an out call at 5-5 in the third set to an alcaraz shot right on the line with norrie close enough to see it clearly. He pointed the umpire to the wrong mark, but the linesman and umpire luckily had the actual mark on the line.
I respect Norrie as a competitor with an interesting if odd game, but this call from Norrie was very dubious at best.
 
sportsfan1 said:
Norrie made an out call at 5-5 in the third set to an alcaraz shot right on the line with norrie close enough to see it clearly. He pointed the umpire to the wrong mark, but the linesman and umpire luckily had the actual mark on the line.
I respect Norrie as a competitor with an interesting if odd game, but this call from Norrie was very dubious at best.
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The replay showed it smack on the line. I wonder if Norrie just assumed the mark was the ball, since the actual ball hit the line.
That's what drives me crazy on clay. If you are a set in, there are marks all over the place, so find the one to your liking...
 
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Mainad said:
I'm guessing he won't actually be too popular in Scotland after he made remarks about his dad's "filthy Scottish accent". ;)
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I highly doubt most would care, they'll just more than likely guess he's talking about a Weegie accent.

Tbh, given he's not English they won't mind.
 
sportsfan1 said:
Norrie made an out call at 5-5 in the third set to an alcaraz shot right on the line with norrie close enough to see it clearly. He pointed the umpire to the wrong mark, but the linesman and umpire luckily had the actual mark on the line.
I respect Norrie as a competitor with an interesting if odd game, but this call from Norrie was very dubious at best.
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The player doesn't get to make the call. Whatever he said doesn't matter.
 
I know others have said it, but it deserves saying again: that backhand stroke is embarrassing.

It looks like a junior player just trying to learn a 2hbh for the first time and afraid they might miss the ball entirely. So they just put the racquet on their hip, almost right behind the contact point, and poke it forward from there. He does that but just harder, which he would have to because the swingpath is so short (a short push, more or less). Really looks as though he's afraid he might miss the ball.

See a lot of early tennis training seriously don't see much as ridiculous as that stroke even on the little kid courts.

I feel complicitly embarrassed just by witnessing it.
 
Oldbaby said:
I know others have said it, but it deserves saying again: that backhand stroke is embarrassing.

It looks like a junior player just trying to learn a 2hbh for the first time and afraid they might miss the ball entirely. So they just put the racquet on their hip, almost right behind the contact point, and poke it forward from there. He does that but just harder, which he would have to because the swingpath is so short (a short push, more or less). Really looks as though he's afraid he might miss the ball.

See a lot of early tennis training seriously don't see much as ridiculous as that stroke even on the little kid courts.

I feel complicitly embarrassed just by witnessing it.
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But would a little kid win Indian Wells with it? Now that WOULD be embarrassing!
 
I don't care for him, he does have a good work ethic though.

Seeing the way he deliberately tried to cheat against Alcaraz at 5-5 in the 3rd set in the Rio final though by pointing out the wrong ball mark - in short, I'm not a fan of the guy.
 
platypus50 said:
I don't care for him, he does have a good work ethic though.

Seeing the way he deliberately tried to cheat against Alcaraz at 5-5 in the 3rd set in the Rio final though by pointing out the wrong ball mark - in short, I'm not a fan of the guy.
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So you have some magic way of knowing he was perfectly aware of where the ball landed and not deluding himself?
 
I like to see that we have all different types of players coming from all parts of the world, He has done very well in South America. I am interested to see how he goes later this year on the grass,
 
The fact that he actually won a clay (!) tournament with that horrendous backhand is an embarassing indictment of the ATP tour. And it was his second final in two weeks! Alcaraz would have easily disposed of him without the injury.
 
President said:
The fact that he actually won a clay (!) tournament with that horrendous backhand is an embarassing indictment of the ATP tour. And it was his second final in two weeks! Alcaraz would have easily disposed of him without the injury.
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Lol.....so it wasn't down to anything Norrie did, it was all the fault of the ATP?? :p
 
President said:
The fact that he actually won a clay (!) tournament with that horrendous backhand is an embarassing indictment of the ATP tour. And it was his second final in two weeks! Alcaraz would have easily disposed of him without the injury.
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His backhand is nasty good, have you seen him in person?
 
Man. Fans seriously underestimate how freaking good he is, because his strokes don't look cool.

He is so good. He's fast, his forehand is heavy, and that weird looking backhand is amazing at absorbing and redirecting pace.

I suppose it's the typical fan thing where everyone's either an ATG or useless. But the guys who work their way up and knock on the door of the top 10 are so incredibly good too, even if they never can make that last leap to win Grand Slams.
 
I see the phenomenon @Max G. is pointing out in other professions, too, where the product of a creator(s) labor can be seen by fans. I think the high level of performance is underestimated for two very understandable reasons.

First, the pro makes their performance look so easy that it fools you into thinking it is. Second, as fans we tend to imagine (or maybe, better put, 'fantasize') ourselves into players while watching them, and this makes us perceive them as closer to our level of performance than they are. Pros understand that this fantasy fuels the fandom that keeps their sport going as a profession, and so they say nothing. (But inside they're laughing, and sometimes crying.)
 
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Brando said:
I see the phenomenon @Max G. is pointing out in other professions, too, where the product of a creator(s) labor can be seen by fans. I think the high level of performance is underestimated for two very understandable reasons.

First, the pro makes their performance look so easy that it fools you into thinking it is. Second, as fans we tend to imagine (or maybe, better put, 'fantasize') ourselves into players while watching them, and this makes us perceive them as closer to our level of performance than they are. Pros understand that this fantasy fuels the fandom that keeps their sport going as a profession, and so they say nothing. (But inside they're laughing, and sometimes crying.)
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With Norrie it's likely the opposite. Fans think that what he makes look difficult, they could do with ease.
See the comments of those offended by his style.
 
How much of Norrie’s success do we put down to how polar opposite his forehand and backhand are?

It must be quite difficult to adjust to receiving a dollar-store Nadal topspin forehand, and then when you return cross court, you get a totally flat Medvedev-esque backhand in return.

Most players have some disparity between spins on the forehand and backhand, Nadal is a classic example. But Norrie’s is extreme!
 
McGradey said:
How much of Norrie’s success do we put down to how polar opposite his forehand and backhand are?

It must be quite difficult to adjust to receiving a dollar-store Nadal topspin forehand, and then when you return cross court, you get a totally flat Medvedev-esque backhand in return.

Most players have some disparity between spins on the forehand and backhand, Nadal is a classic example. But Norrie’s is extreme!
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worse. his normal backhand actually has a bit of underspin to it
 
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