What do you dislike the most about YOUR FAV player?

The most disliked feature of the favorite player of the world is that he has a losing H2H record to You Know Who, and may also have lost the slams record to him when it's all said and done.
 
Nadal: He didn't sign my sweatshirt after the US Open (went to other side); losing matches he should win, like the AO 2017, heartbreaking injuries
Djokovic: Beating Nadal (even though I like Djokovic there can be only one winner and have to prefer Nadal).
 
Red Rick said:
High backhand volley's at set point in Wimbly finals
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VolleyHelena said:
BP conversion is awful and lost some slam finals because of playing big points awfully
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I know, but that could happen to any legendary/ATG player. Borg, Nadal, Sampras, Djokovic...they all lost some Major finals by being flat in crucial moments. I agree that Nadal (or Borg, for that matter) is mentally stronger, but the difference is really marginal.
 
Federer: that he puts up with the cheating of Humbalito and that he is walking the dangerous line between being a celebrity and being an icon with the former leading to some really poor choices in clothing.
 
Tennis_Hands said:
Federer: that he puts up with the cheating of Humbalito and that he is walking the dangerous line between being a celebrity and being an icon with the former leading to some really poor choices in clothing.
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I’m not interested in clothing styles at all myself, but I don’t like those celebrity shows as well (like the golden handbag at Wimbledon etc.) Also being around rich and prominent people so often is nothing I adore (unless they are real personal friends of course).

He is the biggest legend of them all, but still how much bigger would it be if he’d still be just “the boy who plays tennis” and only lets his game do the talking.

IMO there’s nothing wrong with being “arrogant” when giving interviews about his game. He is the best and most talented player ever, and he himself should be allowed to state this truth as well. But some off-court things are unnecessary.
 
It's his right but Fed rarely signing autographs and frankly I've never witnessed myself is a tad disappointing. He is from a posh family.
 
This notion that Fed is a 'mentally weak' player is a bunch of horsesh*t. How do people even make such a judgement?

How many hundreds of times times have we seen Federer pull out pinpoint aces on breakpoints? Where does this indicate a mental failing? There is simply no reason to attribute cause and effect in this manner.

Even if we suppose that for a player A the stats indicate a tendency to convert break points less frequently, how is that directly ascribed to a mental failing? Many times, there is an observable technical reason for this. Or often it is a combination of factors, none of which is significant enough by itself for it to be the overwhelming cause.

Saying a player is mentally weak- or mentally strong- is just a very poor, lazy, inadequate, terribly unimaginative way of describing sports.
 
BlueClayGOAT said:
This notion that Fed is a 'mentally weak' player is a bunch of horsesh*t. How do people even make such a judgement.

Saying a player is mentally weak- or mentally strong- is just a very poor, lazy, inadequate, terribly unimaginative way of describing sports.
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No it isn't. And no one is making the blanket statement, "Roger Federer is mentally weak," the salient point is he has a long and undisputed history of being mentally weak against Nadal, and later on, against Djokovic.

How can you (or anyone) dispute that Fed was mentally weak in countless matches against Nadal? I'm not going to bother digging up the exact stats of blown MP's or going 3/24 on BP's in countless blown matches. I'll cover some egregious examples of matches where Fed should have won and blew endless chances to win. I'm not going to list matches where Nadal was clearly the better player where Fed had no chance to win, just matches that clearly show mental fragility on an epic scale:

2006 MC: Fed won the first set and was up a break and 40-15 on his serve. Then mentally collapsed and lost in three.

2006 Rome: Blew 2 MP's on his own serve on FH sitters.

2008 Wimbledon: Fifth set, Nadal serving 3-4 at 30-40. Fed has an easy mid court FH and hits it wide.

2009 AO: Worst choke of his career, mentally terrified the entire match, something like 4/24 on BP's.

I could list others as well, but these are the mot noteworthy.

His mental weakness against Novak is less pronounced, but also on blatant display in two successive USO's where he fell apart after holding MP's and didn't win another game. The Wimbledon final of 2014 is cringe worthy, where again he had a BP in the fifth set on an easy FH and hit it wide. The USO 2015 final was a chokefest with 3/23 BP's.

If you digest this and still think it's just a "very poor, lazy, inadequate, terribly unimaginative way" of describing Fed's mental issues, then you obviously didn't watch any of these matches.
 
BeatlesFan said:
No it isn't. And no one is making the blanket statement, "Roger Federer is mentally weak," the salient point is he has a long and undisputed history of being mentally weak against Nadal, and later on, against Djokovic.

How can you (or anyone) dispute that Fed was mentally weak in countless matches against Nadal? I'm not going to bother digging up the exact stats of blown MP's or going 3/24 on BP's in countless blown matches. I'll cover some egregious examples of matches where Fed should have won and blew endless chances to win. I'm not going to list matches where Nadal was clearly the better player where Fed had no chance to win, just matches that clearly show mental fragility on an epic scale:

2006 MC: Fed won the first set and was up a break and 40-15 on his serve. Then mentally collapsed and lost in three.

2006 Rome: Blew 2 MP's on his own serve on FH sitters.

2008 Wimbledon: Fifth set, Nadal serving 3-4 at 30-40. Fed has an easy mid court FH and hits it wide.

2009 AO: Worst choke of his career, mentally terrified the entire match, something like 4/24 on BP's.

I could list others as well, but these are the mot noteworthy.

His mental weakness against Novak is less pronounced, but also on blatant display in two successive USO's where he fell apart after holding MP's and didn't win another game. The Wimbledon final of 2014 is cringe worthy, where again he had a BP in the fifth set on an easy FH and hit it wide. The USO 2015 final was a chokefest with 3/23 BP's.

If you digest this and still think it's just a "very poor, lazy, inadequate, terribly unimaginative way" of describing Fed's mental issues, then you obviously didn't watch any of these matches.
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I've watched most of those matches.

What you've just done is more of the same: you've taken a bunch of circumstantial 'evidence', and ascribed to it causes which already fit the received narrative that everybody repeats. This does not explain why Federer lost those critical points, it just takes a bunch of instances and says that 'the cause is mental weakness' without explaining the cause-and-effect relationship or the mechanism of why he lost.

It doesn't work that way.

For every instance you mentioned, there will be many more others where Federer played brilliantly while down in the score or on BPs. To say that he's mentally tough, using those instances as evidence, would be just as wrong as what you are doing when you say he chokes.

You cherry picked literally less than a dozen points as examples of chokes, while ignoring the millions (ignore the exaggeration- I just mean a very large number) of points he has played throughout his career. You can't use isolated examples to prove a general trend like that.
 
I'm sure you've played some sport at some degree of competition, doesn't need to be a very high level.

When you miss a forehand, or hit one brilliantly well while down BP, do you really think either of those happen because you are mentally 'strong' or 'weak' in that moment? Note that I'm not talking about momentary lapses of concentration, which happen to anybody.
 
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