What do you think of Venus Williams' chances?

Andy Zarzuela

Professional
Horrible opener she had. Extremely rusty but credit to Alla Kudryavtseva for playing a terrific match. She kind of reminds me of a young Kuznetsova. She's got solid strokes and very fiesty. The match was hers for the taking. However, Venus held her ground even after a bad call and came through. Any way, with that said, I see Venus playing well at this tournament. I feel like if she's rusty in the later rounds, then for sure she'll beat herself and lose early; however, I think should she make it to the fourth round and beat Sharapova, the tournament is hers for the taking. I was just watching some clips of a confident Venus Williams during the 05 Wimbledon and she was hitting really well with a lot of confidence with a lot of topspin. Personally, that's what I think makes Venus so good is that she has some of the hardest groundstrokes if not the hardest at times and still has tons of spin on her ball. Richard has always said that Venus at her best is better than Serena...she may not be the most consistent out there, but I really think this is her tournament to turn her year around. After all, she had worse results in 05 coming into the tournament, but if she can get through her next couple rounds, Venus will be in orbit, I think. And should Serena get past Justine, which I bet she will given they both get to the Quarters, then I bet a confident Venus would be the last person she'd want to play. According to Serena and Richard, Venus beats Serena in practice sets more often than not. Plus, I feel like she is sort of a sentimental favorite being that she has recently turned 27. What are your thoughts.
 
Horrible opener she had. Extremely rusty but credit to Alla Kudryavtseva for playing a terrific match. She kind of reminds me of a young Kuznetsova. She's got solid strokes and very fiesty. The match was hers for the taking. However, Venus held her ground even after a bad call and came through. Any way, with that said, I see Venus playing well at this tournament. I feel like if she's rusty in the later rounds, then for sure she'll beat herself and lose early; however, I think should she make it to the fourth round and beat Sharapova, the tournament is hers for the taking. I was just watching some clips of a confident Venus Williams during the 05 Wimbledon and she was hitting really well with a lot of confidence with a lot of topspin. Personally, that's what I think makes Venus so good is that she has some of the hardest groundstrokes if not the hardest at times and still has tons of spin on her ball. Richard has always said that Venus at her best is better than Serena...she may not be the most consistent out there, but I really think this is her tournament to turn her year around. After all, she had worse results in 05 coming into the tournament, but if she can get through her next couple rounds, Venus will be in orbit, I think. And should Serena get past Justine, which I bet she will given they both get to the Quarters, then I bet a confident Venus would be the last person she'd want to play. According to Serena and Richard, Venus beats Serena in practice sets more often than not. Plus, I feel like she is sort of a sentimental favorite being that she has recently turned 27. What are your thoughts.

Venus reminds me of Safin. She's just as capable of losing in the next round as winning the whole thing . The longer she sticks around, the more I favor her in the later rounds though.

All her abilities are still there- her blazing speed, her net game, her booming first serve, her groundstrokes. All her problems are between the ears, I think. She straightens herself out and she could take it.
 
M

MacKenzie

Guest
Doesn't look like she has as much strength as she used to. But she's so fun to watch play. Such variety.
 

Alexandros

Professional
At her best and most focused she is better than Serena in terms of her play, just because of her superior movement, height and greater reach.

I too just recently watched the 2005 final against Davneport and one particular point I remember marvelling at Venus' superb defense/offense - Davenport hit an excellent, deep forehand cross court - Venus gets it back but is on the full stretch and in the corner. Venus expects Davenport to hit down the line so she starts moving towards the open court. Davenport goes hard back into Venus' forehand and Venus manages to stop, reverse direction and slam a forehand back into Davenport's corner for a winner, even though Davenport was only a few steps away from it. Perfect showcase of her ability to turn a defensive situation into an offensive one.

Unfortunately for Venus, tennis is more than just the game you bring on the court, it's at least as much a mental battle and Serena rolls her there (as she does with the rest of the field).
 
At her best and most focused she is better than Serena in terms of her play, just because of her superior movement, height and greater reach.

I too just recently watched the 2005 final against Davneport and one particular point I remember marvelling at Venus' superb defense/offense - Davenport hit an excellent, deep forehand cross court - Venus gets it back but is on the full stretch and in the corner. Venus expects Davenport to hit down the line so she starts moving towards the open court. Davenport goes hard back into Venus' forehand and Venus manages to stop, reverse direction and slam a forehand back into Davenport's corner for a winner, even though Davenport was only a few steps away from it. Perfect showcase of her ability to turn a defensive situation into an offensive one.

Unfortunately for Venus, tennis is more than just the game you bring on the court, it's at least as much a mental battle and Serena rolls her there (as she does with the rest of the field).

So are you saying something like if both Venus and Serena are in peak form, Venus has the slightly better game, but Serena has the stronger mind so Serena wins a tight one most of the time by virtue of that? That sounds about right to me. Of course comparing those two at their peak you are really splitting hairs when comparing them in most areas though, as both are just to the extreme exceptional in most key ways(eg-power, athletic ability, defensive skills, serving quality, returning skill).
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
Because Serena can still pull Slams out of her a**, and sincce she has 3 more than venus (8 to 5), we forget how good Venus was.

Her serve can break down and so can her forehand, but everyone has weaknesses.

I really don't understand what's going on with these two. They still have slam potential.

It's not that I can't understand that after all these years, they don't want to put in the effort. But, then why not pull a Clijsters. How much fun can it be to be a former champion who loses all the time?
 
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Deleted member 3771

Guest
Venus Williams has a very very shaky forehand, and with that it's hard to have great confidence. If she runs into someone like Jankovic she'll lose. SHe may get to the quarters or something, but I dont see her being a serious threat for the title.
 

Alexandros

Professional
Venus Williams has a very very shaky forehand, and with that it's hard to have great confidence. If she runs into someone like Jankovic she'll lose. SHe may get to the quarters or something, but I dont see her being a serious threat for the title.

Shaky is a ridiculous term as it is, very very shaky is absurd. She occasionally has a hitch with it where she'd start spraying errors but it's still a potent and highly effective shot. Most of the top women have more solid backhands than their forehands, Venus is just slightly more so but it's still something she can dictate and hit winners from.
 
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