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Any implications?
he wont have any reason to win thenWell it means Scottish independence is almost certain. So Murray may play the the very end of his career as a Scot and not a Brit.
Murray will now beat Djokovic at Wimbledon to "make up for it".
Well it means Scottish independence is almost certain. So Murray may play the the very end of his career as a Scot and not a Brit.
too late to make a difference but all that history he made for British tennis could have been gone.
The Wimbledon prize money is worth about 10% less due to the pound's plummet.
He'll be winning it for Scotland though (who will unilaterally declare independence the day before the final).
The history will still be there, you can't retrospectively say that Murray represented Scotland when he won the Olympic Gold, US Open, Wimbledon and Davis Cup. Just like Lendl's triumphs are (for the vast majority of his career) counted as successes by a Czech player.
The history will still be there, you can't retrospectively say that Murray represented Scotland when he won the Olympic Gold, US Open, Wimbledon and Davis Cup. Just like Lendl's triumphs are (for the vast majority of his career) counted as successes by a Czech player.
yes that is why I said it won't make a difference to the history he created.
Thanks for stating that history can Not be changed.The history will still be there, you can't retrospectively say that Murray represented Scotland when he won the Olympic Gold, US Open, Wimbledon and Davis Cup. Just like Lendl's triumphs are (for the vast majority of his career) counted as successes by a Czech player.
When did India ever have "trillions of dollars of wealth"?Things are looking good , Britain is paying for the crimes and atrocities it has committed against India and looting trillions of dollars of wealth making it a poor nation to start all over.......I hope scotland calls for another referendum and we can watch the filthy british empire collapse
Things are looking good , Britain is paying for the crimes and atrocities it has committed against India and looting trillions of dollars of wealth making it a poor nation to start all over.......I hope scotland calls for another referendum and we can watch the filthy british empire collapse
Once Scotland becomes independent then the British Davis Cup team will lose its top talent.
The colonies were generally full of resources and wealth but there's no way to realistically measure how much they were worth because the measures were completely different to what is known today. Obviously the documented wealth taken away from India is by itself considerable but I doubt it's worth trillions.When did India ever have "trillions of dollars of wealth"?
Scots are much better in my opinion, they came in contact with the power and money hungry jealous britishers(not current) and some qualities might've rubbed offDon't forget, many of them were Scots!
Scots are much better in my opinion, they came in contact with the power and money hungry jealous britishers(not current) and some qualities might've rubbed off
and we can watch the filthy british empire collapse
You won't see me post insults about the Japanese for things that happened seventy years ago, so how this ironically bigoted pillock is still posting on these boards Scot-free (pun intended) is a mystery.About 70 years too late on that one.
To be fair colonisation was a long and enduring process with no real fault of the colonies while the World War consisted of severe mistakes on both sides. A lot of people from the colonies are still sensitive about the whole issue not least because many were forced to fight in the war while their own people served as slaves under the 'Raj' and faced severe apartheid. It's not bigoted at all. The Japanese were tried for war crimes. Who put the English on trial? A little knowledge of history is all it takes.You won't see me post insults about the Japanese for things that happened seventy years ago, so how this ironically bigoted pillock is still posting on these boards Scot-free (pun intended) is a mystery.
Odd thing is I have three Indian work colleagues and they all voted to Leave. I suppose they think it will be easier for Indians to come here to work or at least a level playing field.Things are looking good , Britain is paying for the crimes and atrocities it has committed against India and looting trillions of dollars of wealth making it a poor nation to start all over.......I hope scotland calls for another referendum and we can watch the filthy british empire collapse
It was because Scotland had bankrupted itself due to investments in the Darien company.Don't be naive. Why do you think they agreed to the union with England in the first place? Because they wanted a piece of the action!
I may be wrong but I believe all prize money is paid in U.S dollars.Well it means Scottish independence is almost certain. So Murray may play the the very end of his career as a Scot and not a Brit.
too late to make a difference but all that history he made for British tennis could have been gone.
The Wimbledon prize money is worth about 10% less due to the pound's plummet.
Are you sure? From what I heard most of the Indians and Indians companies don't wanted to leave EU , some of the companies has a base in England for EU trade and now they have to start it from beginning and have to find new base.Odd thing is I have three Indian work colleagues and they all voted to Leave. I suppose they think it will be easier for Indians to come here to work or at least a level playing field.
You make it sound as if colonisation, slave labour, and apartheid is unique to the British colonisation of India. "The Indians under the Brits had it worse than SE and E Asia under the Japanese because the Japanese were tried for their war crimes and the Brits did not" is a huge oversimplification to the point of absurdity, the same way that it would be stupid to say that E Asia had it worse because the Brits didn't exactly experiment on Indians as the Japanese did on Chinese and Korean men, women, and children in Unit 731.To be fair colonisation was a long and enduring process with no real fault of the colonies while the World War consisted of severe mistakes on both sides. A lot of people from the colonies are still sensitive about the whole issue not least because many were forced to fight in the war while their own people served as slaves under the 'Raj' and faced severe apartheid. It's not bigoted at all. The Japanese were tried for war crimes. Who put the English on trial? A little knowledge of history is all it takes.
Anyway, this IS political however. Not a place to discuss it for sure.
You make it sound as if colonisation, slave labour, and apartheid is unique to the British colonisation of India. "The Indians under the Brits had it worse than SE and E Asia under the Japanese because the Japanese were tried for their war crimes and the Brits did not" is a huge oversimplification to the point of absurdity, the same way that it would be stupid to say that E Asia had it worse because the Brits didn't exactly experiment on Indians as the Japanese did on Chinese and Korean men, women, and children in Unit 731.
As you said, a little history is all it takes. As far as I can sympathise with bitterness over war crimes--my grandmother narrowly escaped gang rape in a Japanese barracks in her teens, and spent the rest of the colonial era having her national identity systematically erased literally at the end of katana. I ironically owe the Japanese my existence, which in itself is a confusing thing to recognise.
But guess what--would the actions of long dead people seventy years ago justify me in saying that the Japanese deserved to be hit by the tsunami a few years back? No, because just because they're Japanese doesn't mean they deserve punishment, in the same way the English or today don't deserve to suffer financial ruin because of their war crimes in India 70 years ago. This is punishment for sheer stupidity, naïvety, and xenophobia on the part of many of those who voted for Brexit. This as a punishment for colonisation of India is a non sequitur at this point, as the only relationship between the two are the nationalities. So yes, it is bigotry, and he's completely out of order--he can take that resentment where it is needed, not here.
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Yes of course, there was a widespread belief that states had a right to go to war and a right of conquest. The difference was, India had never seen servitude such as the kind the British introduced. India before the advent of the Brits was an empire with many pockets of ruling classes. The wealth of the nation stayed in the nation. The Portuguese and French colonies in India were less dominant and also less abusive so there is correspondingly less resentment towards them.Why single out the Brits, though? Conquest was the way of the world. The Spanish conquered 1/3 of the world. The French colonized on every continent. The Russians subjugated most of central Asia, all of Siberia, Ukraine, Finland, the Baltic states, Poland, etc. The Chinese subjugated millions, as did the Aztecs, Incas, Turks, Moors, etc., etc. Even the pre-colonialized sub-continent of India... India is not and never has been a homogeneous state. Through the various historical kingdoms of India, you had minorities living under the boot of the ruling classes. Factor into that the Indian caste system...
Essentially, if you point a finger at Britain, you are doing so because they were better at it than anyone else. It's understandable that some around the world may harbor negative feelings toward the Brits, but we should probably resist pointing a finger from the modern age.
Yes of course, there was a widespread belief that states had a right to go to war and a right of conquest. The difference was, India had never seen servitude such as the kind the British introduced. India before the advent of the Brits was an empire with many pockets of ruling classes. The wealth of the nation stayed in the nation. The Portuguese and French colonies in India were less dominant and also less abusive so there is correspondingly less resentment towards them.
I agree with you about the caste system which continues to plague the country till date. That however, doesn't offset the Crown's atrocities and the systematic, long-drawn plundering. Not least because Indians themselves were the forerunners of recognising and trying to eliminate the evils of the caste system.
No, It is entirely possible, Indians will be in more demand now in BritainAre you sure? From what I heard most of the Indians and Indians companies don't wanted to leave EU , some of the companies has a base in England for EU trade and now they have to start it from beginning and have to find new base.
Ok to be fair , I don't know much about the situation.No, It is entirely possible, Indians will be in more demand now in Britain
Probably the Scots are going to vote for independence at the next referendum, in their quest to join EU later. That means no slam for British men's tennis since Fred Perry. Again. LOL