What does Finland think of the rest of the world?

Slowtwitcher

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That’s the whole premise of many of these threads is to push this narrative. I would rather own property, be free and independent like the Vikings for instance.
That actually made me LOL... you just keep bringing up subjects you know nothing about.

Did you know that there were slaves in VIking society? You'd also be the first black Viking... wouldn't that be something.
 

Crocodile

Legend
Sweden is not socialist at all by most definitions. It has a higher level of collective provision, but all this occurs within a capitalist economy.

The Swedes certainly also have a far stronger and diversified capitalist economy than we have in Australia.
We are not denying that Bart, however once you tax people over and above what is functional for private individuals to get on with their lives, well that is unsustainable which is what Sweden realised in the 1980’s.
 

Crocodile

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That actually made me LOL... you just keep bringing up subjects you know nothing about.

Did you know that there were slaves in VIking society? You'd also be the first black Viking... wouldn't that be something.
Not as many slaves as there are in Marxist culture which you seem to have no experience or understanding of.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The Vikings? Raping and pillaging is now called imperialism. It still happens.

That’s the whole premise of many of these threads is to push this narrative. I would rather own property, be free and independent like the Vikings for instance.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
What is functional in terms of tax varies according to the times and people's preferences for the most part.

And as well as taxation you have the problem of pitiful wages and wage growth. This is our current problem.

People have been reduced to the gig economy.

We are not denying that Bart, however once you tax people over and above what is functional for private individuals to get on with their lives, well that is unsustainable which is what Sweden realised in the 1980’s.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
America legalised totrure after 911 and certainly killed millions in the ME and elsewhere.

The Soviets left Afghanistan and the next empire just marched in and never left!

Much more raping and pillaging went on in socialist/communist Russia and China along with torture.
 

Crocodile

Legend
What is functional in terms of tax varies according to the times and people's preferences for the most part.

And as well as taxation you have the problem of pitiful wages and wage growth. This is our current problem.

People have been reduced to the gig economy.
Wages go up when there is full employment, something that destructive socialists seem to work against otherwise nobody would listen to them.
 

Crocodile

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America legalised totrure after 911 and certainly killed millions in the ME and NA.
Mao snd Stalin killed a lot more then that. And this is the evidence with you, Chris snd guys like Slowtwitcher where you constantly attack, say the US. Your hatred towards countries like the US is a real problem that now pervades many people. You people are a destructive force to our societies, wanting to tear everything down.
 
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Bartelby

Bionic Poster
Biden is having to spend two trillion dollars to get American infrastructure back up into a competitive condition!
 

Crocodile

Legend
You are wrong. The mathematical model states that. In the real world it doesn't happen.Wages are not going up with full employment. There is copious data to support this.
They are not going up because we are not in full employment, plus globalism has kept wages low because jobs have been exported to China.
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
I wish i would drink ...
I once procured many, many mini bottles of Finlandia from the publicity department of Samuel Goldwyn Studios. I did the same with Bushmills when they were promoting a film set in Northern Ireland.

Speaking of procurement and Finland, one of my stranger nights began on a Silja ship in Helsinki.



It was a snowy night and involved an American punk band, LSD, shoplifted expensive liquor, and drinking cans of Lapin Kulta on deck in the cold, cold night. I wasn't a part of any of the illegal stuff.

 
It was a snowy night and involved an American punk band, LSD, shoplifted expensive liquor, and drinking cans of Lapin Kulta on deck in the cold, cold night. I wasn't a part of any of the illegal stuff.
Lapin Kulta!! Besides the dark blue "extra strong lager" can you posted, I've heard a local once call it 'girlie beer'
(though the 'regular lager' Lapin Kulta can I saw came in a lighter-colored blue).

The locals' more 'ballsier' beer was Karhu beer ("bear beer") whose red & black aggressive graphics on the can gave it more of a "Made in C.C.C.P." vibe-lol.

(note this doesn't have any English "Golden Beer of Lappland" written on it)

 
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Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
Lapin Kulta!! Besides the dark blue "extra strong lager" can you posted, I've heard a local once call it 'girlie beer'
(though the 'regular lager' Lapin Kulta can I saw came in a lighter-colored blue).

The locals' more 'ballsier' beer was Karhu beer ("bear beer") whose red & black aggressive graphics on the can gave it more of a "Made in C.C.C.P." vibe-lol.

(note this doesn't have any English "Golden Beer of Lappland" written on it)

I think a Swedish guy was bringing the Lapin Kulta from the duty-free shop. It may have been cheaper.

I actually posted about Karhu earlier in this thread:
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I think a Swedish guy was bringing the Lapin Kulta from the duty-free shop. It may have been cheaper.

I actually posted about Karhu earlier in this thread:
Point taken. I think we both have posted about Karhu earlier on this board

@Crocodile: please, don't feed the troll.....you're only feeding the entitled-to-hijack-the-thread mechanism with more irrelevant, besides the point, full-blown america-rant-douchebaggery....yawn...

Keep it Finnish to the finish pretty please.
 

Mike Bulgakov

G.O.A.T.
Point taken. I think we both have posted about Karhu earlier on this board

@Crocodile: please, don't feed the troll.....you're only feeding the entitled-to-hijack-the-thread mechanism with more irrelevant, besides the point, full-blown america-rant-douchebaggery....yawn...

Keep it Finnish to the finish pretty please.
The specific Silja trip I mentioned was 25 years ago, but I was curious about today's Tallink/Silja beers and prices. Lapin Kulta is still a little cheaper.



https://shopping.tallink.com/en/hel-sto/category/beverages/mild-alcohol/beer?page=1
 

Crocodile

Legend
Point taken. I think we both have posted about Karhu earlier on this board

@Crocodile: please, don't feed the troll.....you're only feeding the entitled-to-hijack-the-thread mechanism with more irrelevant, besides the point, full-blown america-rant-douchebaggery....yawn...

Keep it Finnish to the finish pretty please.
I agree with you there, there is an truth to that. My thoughts about countries like Finland is that they have some interesting ideas of good things going for them, if you are purely looking at the country on it’s on merits.
My concerns are that the intention of these threads is political and ideological and aimed at denigrating
The west, something that is now at epic proportions which I don’t think is a good thing. It’s very much pushed by the elites, main stream media and educational institutions that have nothing good to say about western democracy. This I believe is a sad state of affairs.
 
I think you are closer to totalitarian ideology in many of your views.
Then you have problems such as a desire to
label people and pushing your preconceived notions so as to not have a real open discussion of the issue at hand. That is a bit what you say you are against. Have you thought about that?
 
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