It is for an agenda lol.Please not again!!! The same shtick again and again and again.
You going to let us know what your agenda was this time? lolIt is for an agenda lol.
The same as the other thread lol.You going to let us know what your agenda was this time? lol
And what was it in the other thread?The same as the other thread lol.
The one that got deleted in less than a week the Sampras Federer Djokovic one i made a couple weeks back.And what was it in the other thread?![]()
I know what thread you meant, but was the agenda behind it.The one that got deleted the Sampras Federer Djokovic one i made.
Reactions.....I know what thread you meant, but was the agenda behind it.
Lots of great matches in that year.2005 was a strong year. Two people with winning records over Djokovic resided in this year. Goodbye.
Ok. Where would you put your vote?Reactions.....
2006 was poor. Ljubicic, Blake, Robredo and Nalbandian with only 1 MS title and 0 slam finals between them getting into the top 8. Lol.Lots of great matches in that year.
I meant 2005. 2006 was worse because the best players from 2005 fell off.2006 was poor. Ljubicic, Blake, Robredo and Nalbandian with only 1 MS title and 0 slam finals between them getting into the top 8. Lol.
2nd half of 2016 lol. Going with 2004-06 for that reason.Ok. Where would you put your vote?
agreed.I meant 2005. 2006 was worse because the best players from 2005 fell off.
How dare you. 2014-2016 had peak Murray on clay. A million times better than 2005-2006 Nadal.One things is undebatable. On clay 2004-2006 was much stronger than 2014-2016.
I let the hard/grass war for Fedovic fans.
How dare you. 2014-2016 had peak Murray on clay. A million times better than 2005-2006 Nadal.![]()
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Didn't Cilic win a slam in 2014???Clearly 2014-16.
Objective stats incoming.
Is it GOAT points or slam matches won?Clearly 2014-16.
Objective stats incoming.
2014 was a good year. Djokovic was on fire/goating or had a tough draw at every event that year.Didn't Cilic win a slam in 2014???
Pretty much means weak era.
But Cilic won a slam? He is the weakest slam winner in existence. He makes Laver look good.2014 was a good year. Djokovic was on fire/goating or had a tough draw at every tornament that year.
Laver is a top tier ATG lol and Cllic is not. USO 14 was a quite a good that tourney and Cllic played very well in those last 3 rounds.But Cilic won a slam? He is the weakest slam winner in existence. He makes Laver look good.
All of the above, while spectacularly failing to quantify anything other than the top players in 2014-2016 having better year round consistency.Cannot wait. Is it GOAT points or slam matches won?
Better than Gaudio tbh. Laver is a GOAT candidate as well...But Cilic won a slam? He is the weakest slam winner in existence. He makes Laver look good.
What era should it be grouped with?I wonder why 2014-2016 is so strongly seen as a distinct era
All of the above, while spectacularly failing to quantify anything other than the top players in 2014-2016 having better year round consistency.
The funny thing with Lew is that he'll use stats to claim 2004-2006 is weak but he'll ignore the same type of stats when they show Federer in 2004-2006 >>> 2015 Fed.
But as he uses the word objective we'll let him off
Better than Gaudio tbh. Laver is a GOAT candidate as well...
It has actually been after 2012 we have not had the Big 3/4 playing well at the same time.I wonder why 2014-2016 is so strongly seen as a distinct era
Ever since 2014 Big 3/4 have really been alternating sh*t years, so that variable has been pretty consistent. The 2nd line of contenders fell off pretty considerably all the way until now imo.
Why is 17-19 so different fom 15-16?What era should it be grouped with?
2014-16 had a better Djokovic/Murray and possibly a better Federer but it is hard to rank because 2017-19 got more slams but no Djokovic to block him off like in 14-16. Nadal better in 2017-19 cuts for it a bit but not fully.Why is 17-19 so different fom 15-16?
14 is a little weird cause Nadal first made the Aussie Open final, and then basically almost died after RG.
2017-2019 is basically the Big 3 + NextGen. I'd say 2015-2016 is basically Djokovic/Murray/Fed and the remnants of the Djokodal gen + some Lost Gen thrown in. The upper card in those years is quite similar but the mid and lower card is very different IMO.Why is 17-19 so different fom 15-16?
14 is a little weird cause Nadal first made the Aussie Open final, and then basically almost died after RG.
I thought i would bring it back into topic instead of bumping up old threads.Haven't we beaten this topic to death enough?
2014-2015 were only good for Djokovic fans, not for tennis fans in general. Seriously, what great matches did we see in 2015? All Djokovic wins were routine and pretty much NID. Only RG 2015 final was competitive.Going for 2004-06. 2005 was stunning while 2016 was just getting worse and worse as season progressed.
2014-15 were pretty good couple of years though, so I am not leaning strongly towards the previous middle of the decade.
RG and Wimbeldon were high quality generally. AO was not too good and the USO had a very good final even if it was not great.2014-2015 were only good for Djokovic fans, not for tennis fans in general. Seriously, what great matches did we see in 2015? All Djokovic wins were routine and pretty much NID. Only RG 2015 final was competitive.
OK but this has to be one of the things that has been talked about over and over on here. The pattern is Federer fans will say 2004-2006. Djokovic fans wil say 2014-2016 and post stats to explain why, and even I have fallen victim to this. It's a neverending merry-go-round. One thing is for sure, both are stronger than 2017-2019. Only 2019 has been what you can call a good year out of those three years.I thought i would bring it back into topic instead of bumping up old threads.
Slams won in the top five years:Most Slam matches won by 10 players (since 2003)
2012 - 161
2009 / 2015 - 159
2014 - 154
2011 - 153
2010 - 151
2007 - 149
2016 / 2018 - 147
2013 - 144
2003 - 142
2019 - 140
2006 - 138
2005 / 2008 / 2017 - 136
2004 - 127
I have only seen it in a couple threads in 2018 but none this year. I wont do it again lol i will just let this thread ride out. This year 2019 has been underlooked it is not as bad as people think i agree on that. 2017 started of well until clay as well though.OK but this has to be one of the things that has been talked about over and over on here. The pattern is Federer fans will say 2004-2006. Djokovic fans wil say 2014-2016 and post stats to explain why, and even I have fallen victim to this. It's a neverending merry-go-round. One thing is for sure, both are stronger than 2017-2019. Only 2019 has been what you can call a good year out of those three years.
USO had a very good final? I don't think so. Federer had so many chances, but he just choked on every big point. One of the mentally weakest performances of his career.RG and Wimbeldon were high quality generally. AO was not too good and the USO had a very good final even if it was not great.
Young mugs sodding up? 2014-16 at least had some good shewings by Droll, Nish and Botnic as well as still occasionally sweet Birdbrain, Ferru, JWT. Second tier has been barren since Wimbledon 2017, ohyes we have epeak bo3 achievements with two YECs but cum slems and none can be found except Tim at RG.Why is 17-19 so different fom 15-16?
14 is a little weird cause Nadal first made the Aussie Open final, and then basically almost died after RG.
2017-19 is not weak, that's the resurgence of Big3.OK but this has to be one of the things that has been talked about over and over on here. The pattern is Federer fans will say 2004-2006. Djokovic fans wil say 2014-2016 and post stats to explain why, and even I have fallen victim to this. It's a neverending merry-go-round. One thing is for sure, both are stronger than 2017-2019. Only 2019 has been what you can call a good year out of those three years.
Looks at 2017-2019 Slam results2017-2019 is basically the Big 3 + NextGen. I'd say 2015-2016 is basically Djokovic/Murray/Fed and the remnants of the Djokodal gen + some Lost Gen thrown in. The upper card in those years is quite similar but the mid and lower card is very different IMO.