What exactly was the rationale behind ITF declaring Nole as world champion for 2013?

Player A wins AO, skips the other 3.

Player B loses at AO, but wins FO, W, USO.

Therefore Player A is player of the year since player A won 100% of slams entered and player B won 75% only. LOL, gotta love the Nadlogic.
 

bullfan

Legend
Player A wins AO, skips the other 3.

Player B loses at AO, but wins FO, W, USO.

Therefore Player A is player of the year since player A won 100% of slams entered and player B won 75% only. LOL, gotta love the Nadlogic.

Nadal won 50% of the slams getting a zero for AO! Novak won 25%, losing
Twice in slams to the guy that won the most....

He got a nice consolation prize!
 

booson

Professional
Nadal won 50% of the slams getting a zero for AO! Novak won 25%, losing
Twice in slams to the guy that won the most....

He got a nice consolation prize!
Jesus, you're in insufferable. Let's assume that people here accept that the ITF should have awarded Nadal because of your insistence, what's next? Are you going to become a more important member of society, the forum or even your home? This 'success' would contribute anything to the world, your community, the forum or even your home (again)? Your obsession to 'right' other people's opinion regarding a certain someone is a little sick.
 

Chico

Banned
This still going on?

Ok, to repeat once more.

Novak was the best, most successful and most accomplished player in 2013. He won most Slam and Masters points by far.
That all was justifiably recognized by ITF and he was deservingly awarded the world champion title for 2013.

Please learn to deal with it. Thanks.
 

smash hit

Professional
Novak was the best, most successful and most accomplished player in 2013. He won most Slam and Masters points by far.


No he didn't,

Djokovic 10,800 points

Nadal 11,330 points.


I believe that the reason the ITF declared Djokovic World Champion was because he gained more points in ITF events i.e slams, wtf and Davis cup

Djokovic earned 6,020 points in slams and wtf

Nadal earned 5,000 points in slams and wtf.

I have not counted Davis Cup for either, because the number of points won were inconsequential.

IMO anyone who watched tennis in 2013 could clearly see that over the whole year Nadal was the better player. At the year end,

Djokovic had 12,260 points

Nadal had 13,030 points
 
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RoddickAce

Hall of Fame
I did read the post and I highly doubt Myskina collected the most points in those particular events the year she won it. And I know that no chance in hell Wozniacki did in 2010 when she won it. I don't know if you follow womens tennis but if you do, I know that you are aware I am right on both those cases. So I doubt it is that.

Either way it is meaningless. Everyone knows Nadal is the #1 for 2013 hands down.

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=144257

"Anastasia Myskina, also 23 years old and the 2004 Roland Garros champion, becomes the first Russian to become the ITF World Champion for women’s singles based on her overall performance in the Grand Slams, Olympic Games and in Fed Cup, and narrowly edged out France’s Amelie Mauresmo for the honour.


The ITF’s selection of the ITF World Champions is based on an objective system that considers not only performance at the Grand Slams, on the respective tours and at the season-ending events, but also gives weight to performances in the Olympic Games and in the two ITF international team competitions, Davis Cup by BNP Paribas and Fed Cup."
 

Chico

Banned
No he didn't,

Djokovic 10,800 points

Nadal 11,330 points.


I believe that the reason the ITF declared Djokovic World Champion was because he gained more points in ITF events i.e slams, wtf and Davis cup

Djokovic earned 6,020 points in slams and wtf

Nadal earned 5,000 points in slams and wtf.

I have not counted Davis Cup for either, because the number of points won were inconsequential.

IMO anyone who watched tennis in 2013 could clearly see that over the whole year Nadal was the better player. At the year end,

Djokovic had 12,260 points

Nadal had 13,030 points

Your math is incorrect. For example.

2013 Slams + WTF:
Djokovic 2000 + 720 + 1200 + 1200 + 1500 = 6620
Nadal: 0 + 2000 + 10 + 2000 + 1000 = 5010


So it is not 6020 vs 5000 and you incorrectly stated to undermine Djokovic and turn bias towards Nadal.

You made similar mistakes in Slams + masters + WTF.

I.e. Djokovic won way more non MM points than Nadal and was better player in 2013. There is simply no denying it. Sorry.

Why do people try to present lies and incorrect facts all the time here?
 

jg153040

G.O.A.T.
Your math is incorrect. For example.

2013 Slams + WTF:
Djokovic 2000 + 720 + 1200 + 1200 + 1500 = 6620
Nadal: 0 + 2000 + 10 + 2000 + 1000 = 5010


So it is not 6020 vs 5000 and you incorrectly stated to undermine Djokovic and turn bias towards Nadal.

You made similar mistakes in Slams + masters + WTF.

I.e. Djokovic won way more non MM points than Nadal and was better player in 2013. There is simply no denying it. Sorry.

Why do people try to present lies and incorrect facts all the time here?

Let's throw some gasoline on the fire. If Pascal Maria didn't rob Djokovic, Djokovic would win RG. So, it would have been 2 slams vs 1 slam and Djokovic with more points.

What do you say to this?
 

Chico

Banned
Let's throw some gasoline on the fire. If Pascal Maria didn't rob Djokovic, Djokovic would win RG. So, it would have been 2 slams vs 1 slam and Djokovic with more points.

What do you say to this?

That is given. No need to discuss this. Pascal Maria is the only reason for this silly discussion.

We are discussing here if robbed Novak was better than Nadal + Pascal Maria in 2013. And I and ITF still say yes.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
That is given. No need to discuss this. Pascal Maria is the only reason for this silly discussion.

We are discussing here if robbed Novak was better than Nadal + Pascal Maria in 2013. And I and ITF still say yes.

Djoko got caught robbing a point at the 2013 FO! Djoko checked quickly, if the chair umpire saw this. Pascal Maria saw!
Well done, Pascal Maria!
djokovic-net.gif
 
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jg153040

G.O.A.T.
That is given. No need to discuss this. Pascal Maria is the only reason for this silly discussion.

We are discussing here if robbed Novak was better than Nadal + Pascal Maria in 2013. And I and ITF still say yes.

Davydenko was also robbed of his FO win. He got beat by Puerta who was found out was using PEDs.

And Davy owns Rafa, so I'm sure Davy would win FO 2005. And then there would be this butterfly effect, Davy ascending to greatness, because of his FO 2005 confidence.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Luckily, the chair umpire Pascal Maria caught Djoko breaking the rules (touching the net) in the 2013 FO semifinal.

Unfortunately for A.Murray, Djoko was not caught by the umpire (the umpire didn't see the incident) at the 2014 Miami and he won the match against AM
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Video. Djokovic hits ball over the net - Miami 2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_mdS46Jcrw
 
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Chico

Banned
Nice photoshop edit. I happened to see an original video from the producers and it was clear Nole got robbed.

It was said many times. It is not about the net incident. It is about incorrect overrules of several crucial points and refusal to water the court. Please do not fall for propaganda.
 
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octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
I can upload fake videos on youtube too. So, do you believe all those alien videos that are on youtube are real?

Lol at using youtube and photoshop as proof. It shows how some Nadal fans think.

And by the way, youtube also says Federer is the goat. So, you use only videos that agree with your premise. Nice double standards :)

Undisputed goat:
Aug-8-goat-eats-at-KLO-Orchards-300x225.jpg
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
I can upload fake videos on youtube too. So, do you believe all those alien videos that are on youtube are real?

Lol at using youtube and photoshop as proof. It shows how some Nadal fans think.

And by the way, youtube also says Federer is the goat. So, you use only videos that agree with your premise. Nice double standards :)


The whole world has made fake videos???

(5/5) Roland Garros 2013 Semi-Final Nadal vs Djokovic Full match HD

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1...i-final-nadal-vs-djokovic-full-match-hd_sport
 

smash hit

Professional
Your math is incorrect. For example.

2013 Slams + WTF:
Djokovic 2000 + 720 + 1200 + 1200 + 1500 = 6620
Nadal: 0 + 2000 + 10 + 2000 + 1000 = 5010


So it is not 6020 vs 5000 and you incorrectly stated to undermine Djokovic and turn bias towards Nadal.

You made similar mistakes in Slams + masters + WTF.

I.e. Djokovic won way more non MM points than Nadal and was better player in 2013. There is simply no denying it. Sorry.

Why do people try to present lies and incorrect facts all the time here?

I made a simple error. I misread my notoriously poor hand writing. On closer inspection I also had 6620. I didn't bother with the trivial 10 points for Nadal. Why do you immediately assume that it was done deliberately to undermine Djokovic. Didn't I state that Djokovic had accrued more points in slams and WTF?

At the year end Nadal had more points then Djokovic, because he was the better player throughout the year.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
That is given. No need to discuss this. Pascal Maria is the only reason for this silly discussion.

We are discussing here if robbed Novak was better than Nadal + Pascal Maria in 2013. And I and ITF still say yes.

Does the existent of Pascal Maria is the reason why he's not leading in the race for the player of the decade?
 

jg153040

G.O.A.T.
Have you lost touch with reality or are you just in denial?

If I was in denial, how would I know? Isn't that what denial is about?

So, it's being very in denial to ask a guy who you think is in denial if he is in denial. How crazy is that? You should use a bit of common sense please.
 

jg153040

G.O.A.T.
Does the existent of Pascal Maria is the reason why he's not leading in the race for the player of the decade?

Haha, good one. I like having you on our side, TMF.

Because if someone tries to get smart, I just threaten them that you will bring your list again.

Just a threat is enough to reason with most people.
 
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