Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by jorel, Jan 25, 2013.
Pretty much yeah. Everyone acts like an a$$hole sometimes
Federer's hairline has receded just as much as Murray's. It would be more noticeable if he didn't have those long, wavy bangs and didn't wear that headband so often.
Geez, he is an ugly man
Nope. Federer is not balding to an any appreciable rate. His hairline has been like that for years. He has the same huge forehead that we saw in 1998 when he tried to copy Goran's hairstyle.
Murray's hair does seem to be thinning though like his dad..
Guys, this part has been edited out of every ESPN replay of the match I can find. It's also been pruned off of YouTube as well.
I watched that point and Murray didn't "stop" during the point. I saw the video while it was still up and I really do think Fed said "You fu**ing Scot!" Lol
Why else would there be so much cleanup of this incident in videos vs past occurrences of sh**, etc. that are all over the place. I think it's his PR group trying to cover this up.
Big deal, they should have left it. This sort of stuff happens. Heck, I've cussed my friends out on court and then we've gone out to eat afterwards and laughed it off. What happens on court stays on court. It's like Vegas.
Can you back that up w/ pics?
His head is getting bigger and bigger as the years gone.Thats why ı feel he use something.
Is that the best you've got?
Jealous of the adoration he receives.
What a shame ugly guy lost. Better luck next time Pink Feddy......
Very interesting. This is not ethical at all. Is some big money and power behind this?
I hope some journalist launches an investigation into any possible cover up.
If Fed was found to have influenced this, I would lose all respect for him.
Talk about conspiracy theories! So funny! You've got to be kidding me. The guy said the f-word. It's not like he killed someone. Please people, let's get some perspective here.
Then why not leave it up there?
Oh no, you're going to make him cry.
I now expect a picture of yourself so we can establish your credibility on judging another individual's appearance. No anime characters.
So what I have learned in this thread is that Murray hooked up with Lendl, and that Murray and Federer were checking each other out in the fourth set of their match after Federer yelled something at him, according to Federer. Interesting.
Yes and that Murray isint that great after todays final....
Anyone who manages to post a gif of Woody Harrelson in a conversation about Federer is alright with me 8)
What did Federer shout at Murray???
Fed was about to lose, Murray serving for the match just three points away from the win, zaps a forehand winner by Fed and Fed shouted something across the net to Murray who smiled it off but he became clearly rattled by it and lost the game and the ensuing tiebreaker. Clearly Fed, surprised Murray with whatever he yelled at him as it was very uncharacteristic of the genteel Fed who portrays himself as the ultimate sportsman. It seemed a desperate play of gamesmanship to fluster Murray and it worked though Murray denied it rattled him in the press conf. Murray would not reveal the exact words by Federer.
This was a very interesting aspect of the match, to see Federer behave this way was shocking to say the least.
"Thar she blaws!!"
He did seem to say what "SStrikerR" suggests in his post above. I don't know for sure. Most replays edit out the juicy bits of players swearing. So puritanical.
I don't know whether it was a subtle pause after the ball hit the line, or if it was Murray stopping his service motion on the first serve of that point (he faulted when he did end up serving, so the point was played from a 2nd point anyway).
I think it was more out of frustration and competitiveness than a specific thing Murray had done.
Anyway, there are already several threads on this, but i don't blame you for starting this one as those don't discuss the incident, rather they deteriorate into fanboism.
Thanks for the comments and insights.
Federer got irritated that a couple of times Murray hesitated after he returned a ball near or on the baseline, and kind of putting some pressure for an 'out' call from the line judge in the middle of the point and then carrying on, when what any professional worth his salt would be doing is playing the ball and leaving the line judges to do their job, and if they are unhappy with a call, then use the challenge system. Fed does not take kindly to this kind of shenanigans and in the heat of the moment he let rip for what he perceived to be poor form and etiquette during play by his opponent. But then again, etiquette and good form on the court has never been Murray's strong suit.
"Ein Volk! Ein Reich! Ein... place in the final & would you mind awfully stepping aside and allowing an old man like me another shot at the top?"
You should definitely invest in a sarcasm detector.
"You talking to me?"
It was definitely a form of gamesmanship, although probably not as fully intentional and deliberate as other forms. Making your opponent feel like he didn't truly deserve a point that he won is definitely gonna rattle someone. It clearly changed the momentum.
A whole lot of fun,
Prizes to be won!"
Fed hater pretending to be a fed fan pathetic waste of time
This is the best summation of what was going on imo and what annoyed Federer. I rewatched the match last night and Murray did, on a couple of occasions, stop as if waiting for the line call - and then continue. It's nothing major really but some could argue it's a form of deliberate distraction.
I feel for Federer here - I've played guys who appear to give up a point and lob it back and, for a moment, it is a distraction for sure. Then again, both players should really play to the linesman/umpire calls, as the saying goes.
My impression was he hesitated before playing it, as if unsure if it was going in. And of course it is a legitimate tactic in any case to wait and see which way your opponent is likely to move before hitting. After somebody has hit the ball you should be watching where the ball is going, not worrying what your opponent is doing.
Watch that point again, not other points where he actually did stop longer. Murray hardly hesitated on that base line return. Fed didn't yell "stop". He defamed Murray via his nationality. That's why Murray was all nod, nod "OK, if that's the way you want to play this..." faced when they put it on the slow replay.
Every single replay of this point has been edited to block out the closeup of yelling at the net. You can see it from above the court, but the other closeups from the side are all offline now.
I didn't say he did it that point. I just assumed it was pent-up frustration from the previous times.
Also - I'm not sure what you mean by "he defamed Murray via his nationality..." that doesn't even make sense. I'll assume you're not a native English speaker so I'll just infer from it you meant he insulted Murray's nationality. If so, I disagree regardless - I don't think he said 'Scot' at all, I think he said 'stopped'.
As for every replay being edited to block that specific part of the game, I highly doubt there is some global conspiracy to edit out minute parts of matches which would actually serve to increase the popularity of the video. More like the videos have just been edited per se for time considerations or similar.
Nonsense. Players do that all the time, hesitate for a second if the ball is close to the line.
let me ask a question
at the net a ball right at your body
how good a shot can you hit off it???
are you insinuating that it isn't possible for the same joke regarding a public occurrence that correlates very closely to another public occurrence cannot be made by pure happenstance?
by the way, aiming to be original for the sake of being original sets you up for failure 9 times out of 10, since everything you could think of doing is either influenced by something or to a degree has been done before you've even completed the notion.
it's better to not care about being original, than to try your hardest at being original, in the end, both methods have similar chances of attaining originality.
btw, your second paragraph isn't very original, its been said before. regurgitation.
I watched the recording again and I am now positive Federer said "TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT DORSIA NOW! YOU F*CKIN STUPID B*STARD!"
I have a proven record of being a moderate (reasonable) supporter of Federer on this forum. I give other players credit when it's due.
What part of "starting to lose respect" in my post did you miss?:-?
Oh I see fed can act like a jerk and yell at his opponent but it was all Murrays fault somehow. The fanboys never see the obvious, no matter how shameful their egomaniac hero acts it is okay in their world of fantasy-land.
Standard operating procedure for the TW planet ****s.
Proven record like Lance having record of not failing any tests.
It is hilarious how some try to blame it on Murray.
hey cristi,have you purchased the tickets for rafa double's match?
moderate (reasonable) = fair, objective, and balanced
Yep. I hope Pico doesn't withdraw!.
I can't believe people are still talking about this.:shock:
Honestly, Monaco is much better off taking his talents to Zagreb or Montpellier.
yes.The word withdrawal has surely become synonymous with rafa in last few tourneys in which he has entered,
no way mate, of course he wasn't aiming for fed's head or tsonga's b***s ... have you noticed the speed of todays modern professional game. perhaps you should go to an actual match because to be honest it's something just to get the ball over the net with the speed they are playing at.
Murray is an inspiration and he barely ever directly swears towards anyone and hardly every uses violence in matches (smashing rackets) to be honest federer has smashed more rackets than Murray!
Heat of the moment, which is understandable. Fed is no saint but people here thinking that should not be so crushed.
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