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Goffin
Cilic
Ehh there’s no way anyone uses anything remotely close to continental-eastern these days.Everyone semi-western except Kyrgios (extreme western), Tsitsi (continental-eastern) and Cilic (eastern).
Everyone semi-western except Kyrgios (extreme western), Tsitsi (continental-eastern) and Cilic (eastern).
I'd rather use as reference for grips the bevel, as example:Kyrgios
Zverev
Thiem
Wawrinka
Tsitsipas
Fognini
Goffin
Cilic
Everyone semi-western except Kyrgios (extreme western), Tsitsi (continental-eastern) and Cilic (eastern).
Is that really a Western? I'd imagine no more than a SW with such a straight arm, or atleast in that photo there.
Quite obviously a Western
I thought many of them would be using something even more towards Western but I wanted to find out. I can't really tell with images.Isn't almost everyone these days on something more or less semi-western.
You are right about that. His almost flat balls gave me the impression that his grip would be eastern. I admit I was wrong.
Quite obviously a Western
Apart from Cilic, where else am I wrong?Not trying to be mean but doesn’t look like you’ve held a racquet before.
Looks like a mild Semi Western to me. But again I can’t tell without the index knuckle.Tsitsipas
I do not think so. His grip looks to be eastern. His father mentioned that it is a classic eastern, like Delpo. If you do a further research you will notice that most people do not consider Tsitsipas grip to be sw... Edit:https://www.atptour.com/en/news/tsitsipas-milan-2018-forehand-feature-atpTsitsipas
Fed- extreme eastern
rafa- a little past semi western towards extreme
Novak - extreme semi western (more than Rafa but not full western)
Others don't really matter IMO
You are such a great fan of Tennis!
Fed- extreme eastern
rafa- a little past semi western towards extreme
Novak - extreme semi western (more than Rafa but not full western)
Others don't really matter IMO
Of course it matters. I’d rather have Fogninis forehand technique than Djokovic’s or Nadals for example.
It's true that he curls his wrist and it gives the appearance that it is more eastern than it is but on impact when his wrist is rolled back you can clearly see that it is nowhere near as extreme as you make it out to be.I do not think so. His grip looks to be eastern. His father mentioned that it is like Delpo. If you do a further research you will notice that most people do not consider Tsitsipas grip to be sw...
Seems to be the same as Fed. I would say his index knuckle is at bevel 3.5 (between eastern and semi-western). Sometimes the name confuses more than it helps as people tend to diverge on opinions about the correct name depending where they are from.Tsitsipas
Easily repeatable and compact. I’m not delusional. Nadals straight arm SW forehand is tough to time and buggy whipping every ball is taxing.Why?
Easily repeatable and compact. I’m not delusional. Nadals straight arm SW forehand is tough to time and buggy whipping every ball is taxing.
Djokovics forehand looks like he has a lot of moving parts that require rubber band like elasticity.
Who said Cilic hits a flat ball? Some one posted the average FH/BH rpm of top pros from 2018 in another thread. Cilic FH RPM has been measured to average 2900 (higher than Fed-Djokovic who are 2700-2800) which should be in the top 25% percentile of top ATP pros. His BH RPM is about 1900 (higher than Djokovic at 1800) which puts him in the 40%-50% percentile of top ATP pros.You are right about that. His almost flat balls gave me the impression that his grip would be eastern. I admit I was wrong.
wat?Of course it matters. I’d rather have Fogninis forehand technique than Djokovic’s or Nadals for example.
I had written techniquewat?
Well, if you meant that it'd be an easier shot to pull off for someone actually playing the sport, then that's a fair point. But if you meant as a shot, then lol no.
At the TV screen I cannot see what your numbers claim. Cilic producing spinnier forehand shots than Roger or Novak? Seems improbable..Who said Cilic hits a flat ball? Some one posted the average FH/BH rpm of top pros from 2018 in another thread. Cilic FH RPM has been measured to average 2900 (higher than Fed-Djokovic who are 2700-2800) which should be in the top 25% percentile of top ATP pros. His BH RPM is about 1900 (higher than Djokovic at 1800) which puts him in the 40%-50% percentile of top ATP pros.
Go watch a pro tournament live and watch Cilic, Djokovic, Federer and the other pros - if you can watch them on a practice court, you can be really close and see the topspin and side spin which you can’t see on TV. You’ll enjoy it and you‘ll stop believing your “lying eyes” from watching tennis only on TV. That’s why many rec tennis players enjoy watching practices from up close at pro tournaments even more than watching matches sitting far away in a big stadium - the level of hitting from a pace and spin standpoint, the quickness of their movement and anticipation is just mind-blowing.At the TV screen I cannot see what your numbers claim. Cilic producing spinnier forehand shots than Roger or Novak? Seems improbable..
His swing path looks flat with a topspin finish, I honestly thought he uses eastern. Up close however looks a little different.Looks like a mild Semi Western to me. But again I can’t tell without the index knuckle.
I would say that even other 5.0-6.0 players would have a better shot with Fabio’s technique or Tsitsipas’ technique instead of Nadal or Jokerwat?
Well, if you meant that it'd be an easier shot to pull off for someone actually playing the sport, then that's a fair point. But if you meant as a shot, then lol no.
I do not think so. His grip looks to be eastern. His father mentioned that it is a classic eastern, like Delpo. If you do a further research you will notice that most people do not consider Tsitsipas grip to be sw... Edit:https://www.atptour.com/en/news/tsitsipas-milan-2018-forehand-feature-atp
I would say that even other 5.0-6.0 players would have a better shot with Fabio’s technique or Tsitsipas’ technique instead of Nadal or Joker
Hmm you are right he does use a straight arm. Maybe Batista Agut instead.Straight arm forehands like tsitsipas aren't easy to be learnt for most people
Kyrgios
Zverev
Thiem
Wawrinka
Tsitsipas
Fognini
Goffin
Cilic
Hmm that’s interesting. I thought Fog was extreme Semi and Cilic too. Wawrinka has also been noted many times to have close to a full western.Kygs - semi-western (but more western)
Thiem - semi
Wawrinka - semi
Tsitsi - eastern
Fog - semi
Goff - semi
Cilic - semi
Westerners - Sock, Delbonis, Djokovic was close earlier in his career.
Hmm that’s interesting. I thought Fog was extreme Semi and Cilic too. Wawrinka has also been noted many times to have close to a full western.
I guess this exercise is truly pointless without viewing where there index knuckle lies.
I would say that even other 5.0-6.0 players would have a better shot with Fabio’s technique or Tsitsipas’ technique instead of Nadal or Joker
Continental-eastern for Tsitsipas? I heard someone on tv say it was the same as Del Potro’s grip, which is pure eastern. I would like to believe it though, since it’s my grip.Everyone semi-western except Kyrgios (extreme western), Tsitsi (continental-eastern) and Cilic (eastern).
Wow I wish I could hit with that grip. One day my wrist is going to explode with the 3/4 W gripContinental-eastern for Tsitsipas? I heard someone on tv say it was the same as Del Potro’s grip, which is pure eastern. I would like to believe it though, since it’s my grip.
May I add NishikoriA full western is rare - Sock and Kachanov definitely. Maybe Djok when he was younger. But most guys technically have some semi in their grip.
Make the switch. You won’t regret it. Itll feel like skinny dipping.Wow I wish I could hit with that grip. One day my wrist is going to explode with the 3/4 W grip