What frame is flexy/stable/good SW/lowish power/& hits heavy ball/huge serve?!

Ross, I was referring to the regular Pure Storm - not limited. Racquets become completely différent animals when leaded up. From your post above I suspect you're on the road to customization - yet another element to the overall experience
 
Ross K said:
Suppawat,

Any soft/flexy string recommendations for the Reb?

R.
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Hi Ross, I haven't tried variety of string set up on my Reb95 yet. I strung my Reb95 with Gamma Synthetic Wearguard 17 at 55 lbs, and it just feels right off the ground.

Other soft co-poly I can recommend is Boris Becker Bomber. I used it my KPS88, and it played very soft, not too much plastic sound, and hit heavy balls really good.

Currently, I am trying a couple heavy ball hitting frames - Head YouTek Speed Pro (very stiff) and Radical Pro (very flex) with soft poly - Signum Pro Hyperion 16 at 55 lbs. Well...the power is there but it feels like plastic if you don't hit really hard. I probably go back to my favorite hybrid soon - Boris Becker Sensor and Boris Becker B-Xtreme.

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suppawat said:
I still have a problem on my forehand, because Reb95 is easier to swing, so it's quicker than PT630. I found myself not hitting Reb 95 sweetspot as much as I do with PT630.
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Does that mean you can still hit the ball even if you get there a little late with the Rebel 95?
 
fuzz nation said:
Is it reasonable to assume that you're sort of looking for a softer alternative to the old 6.1 Classics?
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The TF335 16x20 seems to be very similar to PS 6.0 Original.
Very similar specs but a lot more flexible. Several posters confirmed that in this thread.

This frame meets all the requirements of the OP. Very solid with all strokes and maneuverable enough because of its 12 pts headlight (unstrung).

The specs are:
Head Size:
97 sq. in. / 626 sq. cm. Length: 27 inches / 69 cm Strung Weight: 12.4oz / 352g Balance: 10pts Head Light Swingweight: 320 Stiffness: 63 Beam Width: 20 mm Straight Beam Composition: Graphite & Texalium Power Level: Low Swing Speed: Fast Grip Type: X-Tra Grip String Pattern:
16 Mains / 20 Crosses

Unfortunately this racquet has been discontinued but still available at online tennis shops and fleabay.
 
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neverstopplaying,

Re the Pure Storm - sorry, my bad...

From your post above I suspect you're on the road to customization - yet another element to the overall experience[/QUOTE]
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Ah, someone who knows what I mean!?... btw, yes, I think so!... btw2, I'm starting to step up my interest in the AG300 a little.


Suppawat,

Just curious... how did you find the KPS for flexy feel, maneuverability, and suitability to 2hbh, predominant b-line play? Secondly... are you saying the Rad Pro feel is like plastic hit hard - or were you actually just referring to the string? Sup, I'd love to hear more about this frame as it's interesting me.


Gee,

Thanks.


chance,

You're the 1st to say that. And do you know what? I think that's very good advice.


Thanks everyone,

R.
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Hi Ross,

Didn't you happen to demo the TF335 16x20 in the past?

As you played with so many racquets maybe you can give me some suggestions.

Since a year I used to play with TF335. Though it is a very solid stick with tremendous control sometimes I think it is a bit too demanding. I can handle the weight because I am a strong 5.0 level player with a well developed technique and a good stamina.

What racquet has the same solidness and control as the TF335 but a tad easier to handle?
 
ryushen21 said:
That's kind of rude. This isn't like some person who switches every month. I can sympathize as I am going through a search myself right now.

And let's not forget that you yourself just went through a few racquets and ended up switching from the APDC you were using.
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I just got back into tennis less then a year ago after a long hiatus and had a lot of catching up to do since I was using old Head Graphite sticks as a junior. So yeah, I went through a phase of trying out sticks, and it sucks to be honest. It really does. So if you want to call me out for being rude, that is your interpretation. I am just being honest with the guy because he has started multiple racquet clubs..etc and I don't think you are making a fair comparison in any way. I also read his posts on the teaching area and it is obvious he wants to get his strokes down. Will not happen until you commit to a frame for a long time unfortunately.

Why are you going through a search?

And Ross, I would demo the Radical Pro and Mp. Thats a no brainer since you use a 2hbh. It does not feel plastic really.tough to describe..it changes the feel a little depending on how hard you make contact.
 
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Tennisman912 said:
Ross K,

I would describe it as very flexible and arm friendly. It produces one the heaviest balls through the court I can remember. Your opponents or usual playing partners will notice this and comment on it. This comes from the racquet’s high swing weight instead of resorting to a stiffer frame. It has amazing plough through, better than most any racquet because of that swing weight IMHO. No matter how big a shot your opponent hits, just make solid contact out in front and you can handle anything thrown at you. The only downside being that to take advantage of its swing weight, you must be able to get the racquet around if you are coming from a much lighter swing weight frame. It will certainly be an adjustment from the 320-325 swing weight range, let alone a lighter swing weight. It rewards solid technique and the ability to accelerate the racquet head consistently. The most demanding shot to hit with it is the serve as it takes some effort to swing it hard. If you muscle the serve with poor technique you will not like serving with it. To make it perfect, I would prefer a bit more head light balance as it can be a bit slow reacting in reaction volleys (or maybe I haven’t played with it enough yet), but overall it is an excellent frame.

One other frame you may like is the youtek radical oversize. It is even more flexible than the radical pro (56 vs. 58 I believe) but has much lower swing weight so is very easy to accelerate. Even more arm friendly than the pro version. But it is the most unforgiving oversize racquet I have played with ever as far as off center shots though. But it is very, very easy to swing. It doesn’t have near the plough through but could be customized to suit, as that seems like a priority to you. Pick your poison.

I am switching to one or the other after I have a chance to hit with the oversize a few more times. The stiffness of my K95 has been causing some arm pain so I am switching to something with more flex. I am getting one or both of these frames after I finish my evaluation with different levels of play.

Best of luck. Definitely hit with both.

TM
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Sorry Tennisman, I seem to have somehow overlooked this post or missed it or whatever when it was 1st posted, and this frame is indeed 1 I'm keen to hear more about.

Funny. After reading the 1st paragraph, I instantly thought "this sounds pretty similar to the Reb 95"? (Though the Reb is very head-light and I personally find it relatively easy to serve and find oomph with.)

Just curious then... you ever hit with the Exo Reb (heavier version and not 'team')? If you haven't, maybe you should try and demo one (or check out 'The X-Men thread)??

Re the serve issue you mentioned, yes, I've read that the serve dept. isn't its greatest asset... which slightly concerns me tbh.


Power Player,

Reassuring to hear the feel isn't like plastic! :smile:


Gee,

Played the 325 and 320 (closed patterns.) At the time, I kind of liked the former (good for 2hbh), but quickly went off the latter (feel and lack of pop.) Tbh I can't quite recall but I suspect they lacked a bit of 'body' for me.

Re what you ask, sorry, I've never played the TF 335 I'm afraid and don't know much about it at all. Aside from obvious suggestions (ie, checking out the older TF320, or the V02 320, etc), I can't really offer much help. I strongly advise you post up a thread asking the same Q...

Cheers everyone!

R.

BTW, I'll be posting a final conclusion/plan of action in a few days or whenever the posts start slackening off.
 
My final nominees:

#1 youtek radical pro
I didn't suggest at first because it is 100 sq. in, but it fits the rest of your criteria to a T. You can hit a "heavy" shot with it for sure.100 si is forgiving and nice for 2hbh. People love it for good reason.

#2 any radical mp
Very well designed frame, so easy to tune to taste. Novak, etc...is not a heavy rac, but swings like one, can easily be made into one. Great control and feel, access to angles, keep on serving well deep into match...this is actually what I think is best but the pro hits heavier shot no question.
#3 mg prestige mp
A little heavier and stiffer but still comfortable and room to add a little weight if you need. This frame is no slouch. I like it so much more than the rebel, I don't know how you guys play with the rebel, although I thought the rebel team was a great racquet, go ahead laugh.

Goood luck
 
Ross K said:
Prompted by 3 things (a bit of frustration with the mids i've been checking out; wanting to go soft and flexy with feel; and reading in another thread about Novak's actual custom. very low powered, hefty, flexy frame), basically I'm wondering what frames are out there that might fit this approximate description:

93 - 98" head-size... soft/flexy... solid/stable... decent SW... decent static weight... low/medium power... heavy ball, booming g-strokes... massive serve...

Does this frame even exist (especially with the last 2 requirements added on)? :)

Any thoughts?

Many thanks,

R.

BTW, for reference, I consider the PT 630 to have most of the above qualities aside from massive serve (I know - 'operator error!') Ditto the Rad Tour Twin Tube XL (although that has an immense SW.) Ditto the Reb 95. And, to a lesser extent, frames like the C10 Pro, old Fischer Pro No 1's and 200G MW, come to mind...
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Buy an i.Prestige MP. It's worth it!
 
AlpineCadet said:
Buy an i.Prestige MP. It's worth it!
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Alpine,

I have an i. P. Can't say I found it to quite fit the description above ^^^... which brings on a Q. What string set up do you say works for this frame if you're looking to amp up the heavy ball and big serve (ie, more power I suppose.)


Fed,

Why didn't you like the Reb (heavier 1 not team)?... Oh, and cheers for your final selections.


Fuzz Nation,

Hi fuzz. Any chance you could email me via profile your email as I want to ask about something?


Shellovic,

Well, I'm quite seriously considering an experiment with heavily customizing the 4d300 like 'neverstopplaying' did (see AG300 Appreciation Society thread,)



Thanks good ppl!


R.
 
Ross K said:
Suppawat,

Just curious... how did you find the KPS for flexy feel, maneuverability, and suitability to 2hbh, predominant b-line play? Secondly... are you saying the Rad Pro feel is like plastic hit hard - or were you actually just referring to the string? Sup, I'd love to hear more about this frame as it's interesting me.

R.
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Hi Ross, I have very limited experience with KPS88 before selling it to my friend. Actually, I am not at the level to play that frame comfortably. But as far as I remember, I didn't notice much of flexibility of the frame. It's hard to wield around too.

For Radical Pro, this is oine of very flexy frames I can find these days. It feels head-heavy even though the spec say 2 pts head light. The advantage of Rad Pro is consistency in hitting heavy balls. However, the feel is not there. I think it can be string characteristic because I have experienced the same feel with Speed Pro. Before that, I strung my speed pro with hybrid, and it didn't have this plastic feel.
 
Well I may well get shot down but here is a suggestion for you Ross...

The Adidas Barricade Tour fits the description above. It has similar characteristics as the rebel 95 BUT it has more Power on groundstrokes and serves and hits a much heavier ball. There is noticably more bite on the ball compared to the reb.

Although the swingweight is a little higher than the rebel it is far more forgiving.. The sweetspot is different...

The touch and feel is better on the rebel but that is just my opinion.. Although it got some bad press on these boards I think the Barricade is an excellent racket and has the above qualities you are looking for. Stable as they come and the serves are massive.

I am playing it mixed in with my Bumblebees. I still cant seem to let them go.. even though they are really on their last legs.

Also I know where you can pick them up New for a reasonable price. Nearly half the price of the rebel 95 new or the New Head rackets.. which in the UK are just laughably expensive right now.
 
Supp,

Cheers for that ^.


onky,

TBH the Adidas doesn't greatly appeal. Maybe I should read up on it though?... Interesting to see you still hit with the bumblebee. I'm presently having another look at my Rad Tour TT XL (love the softness, big SW, and general b-line excellence.)... Q though... I know you played the Rad Pro before... your overall impression of the frame would be what then?

Cheers!

R.
 
The Rad Pro Youtek.. Yeah I hit with it for about 3 months.

The racket has great feel. I liked the flex and large sweetspot. The racket helps produce a lot of spin and is very forgiving.

However I will not use it as the control is not anywhere near as good as the rebel 95 or my bumblebees. The spin is good but court penetration is poor. I.E. If you are playing someoneof a decent level who can step in you will find yourself constantly on the defensive.

Serves with this racket are not even close to the bumblebee.. and light years away from the rebel 95. Less mph less weight and less accuracy. If you are trying to play an agressive all court game with a big serve I would not recommend it.

Don't get me wrong the racket feels nice and if you can get control of the point you can move people around and the forgiveness helps out. BUT i much prefer the rebel 95 or my bumblebees as they have much beteer put away power and serving ability. With the YT Rad I also found the ball flying on me a lot more.. Great racket just does not suit my stye.
 
onkystomper said:
The Rad Pro Youtek.. Yeah I hit with it for about 3 months.

The racket has great feel. I liked the flex and large sweetspot. The racket helps produce a lot of spin and is very forgiving.

However I will not use it as the control is not anywhere near as good as the rebel 95 or my bumblebees. The spin is good but court penetration is poor. I.E. If you are playing someoneof a decent level who can step in you will find yourself constantly on the defensive.

Serves with this racket are not even close to the bumblebee.. and light years away from the rebel 95. Less mph less weight and less accuracy. If you are trying to play an agressive all court game with a big serve I would not recommend it.

Don't get me wrong the racket feels nice and if you can get control of the point you can move people around and the forgiveness helps out. BUT i much prefer the rebel 95 or my bumblebees as they have much beteer put away power and serving ability. With the YT Rad I also found the ball flying on me a lot more.. Great racket just does not suit my stye.
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Wo!... :shock:

If anything might possibly put me off checking out this frame, er, I think you've just about said it all!! :)... and especially with the comparisons made to the Reb and Bumblebee... 'court penetration', or consistently hitting groundies deep and heavy is an absolute must for me... I can't stand it when you're hitting short too often... big power and action in the serve dept is also something I look for keenly... ditto put away muscle... riiiiight... ("Clears throat") I see...

Cheers,

R.
 
Ross,

Hate to say it... but you might have more detective work ahead of you.

I can't think of any frame that has all the abilities/capabilities that we're all searching for.

You might have to go retro and start hunting down some frames from the late 80's/early 90's.

I can't think of one modern frame that has the soft flex, weight distribution and static weight that you seek.... Maybe some customized fischers would suffice (as in soft flex).. but really this is mission almost impossible.

A compromise must be reached before the queen dies. I would file a report with scotland yard... 'Missing Weapon of Mass Destruction' :)
 
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That is all my opinion Ross... but yeah if you are used to
18 x 20 frames in the molud of pro tours and rebel 95's I would save yourself the time. Like i say its a good racket, if you are looking for something to help you counterpunch or defend a bit better or even hide a bit of a technique problem.

The serve with this racket was a big problem for me.. just no pnetration on it. I like to serve big and move forward.. with this I was getting into too many side to side / defensive / grinder style rallies.. I felt like I was going backwards.

The description sounds like you are looking for a slightly more powerful rebel 95.. Let me ask you have you tried Weisscannon matchpower?? I string my bumblebees at 49 lbs with this and I did the same for my rebels and they are just great. The Barricades do not need to be this low as they have more power to begin with.
 
onky,

Cheers fo the string tip. I might suggest it to my stringer and see what he reckons.


Everyone,

This is actually how it's all panning out:

Well, I'm def looking at the Rad Tour TT xl (this week)... I'm def restringing the Reb (probably with soft poly @ 50 lbs and will lead up @ 12)... I'm def going to look at newly strung AG100... I've def got to look at the PB10 mid more...

I might well restring old C10 Pro... and I might buy and mod up a AG300 (big time lead tape experiment)...

And that should keep me busy coming into the X-mas period!:)


Thanks again for all your input everybody... I think we're just about 'done' here!


R.
 
Ross,

I have started playing the Youtek Speed MP 16x19 and love it. I added 6 grams of lead total @ 3 & 9 to improve the stability for volleys. The weight comes out to 12 ounces even, has a flex of 63, and is a serving beast! I have been using this setup for a month now and I believe after a year of trying different sticks I have found the one.

Edman
 
I would disagree with onky. I play now and then with a 5.0 former college player who steps in and can hit to either corner from both wings if you put one in his strike zone. I had some issues with him due to a few things, but I got my strokes very deep and consistent with the Rad Pro. He knocked me around the court when I had the APDC because the heavy topspin I needed to keep the ball in play would kick right where he wanted it. The Rad Pro lets me flatten out on my strokes a bit and not have to hit with so much topspin. That keeps the ball heavier and lower and drives him insane. So I notice a lot more court penetration with the Rad. The secret is (with any stick) to get your weight moving forward into the stroke on every shot. This comes back to my original post of finding the racquet for you and then sticking with it. The reason is because your timing has to be developed with the Radical Pro, but once you are hitting out in front consistently, I guarantee you will notice a large difference in your play.

I think what helped me lock down a racquet was focusing on swing weight. The APDC was a great stick, but I am a thin beam guy, and at the end of the day I could never feel confident for whatever reason with a wide beam. So figure that one out first. Then try and see what is the highest swingweight you can handle. Once you figure that out, you narrow down your options a bit. Then take your current racquet and lead it up to that swingweight. If you still are not happy, then you want to make the switch. This is what I did with the APDC and it lead me to the Rad Pro. It makes sense, since I like the 100 head shape..the power, but I needed more control and a higher SW. There simply is not another stick out there with the specs of the Rad pro, so if you end up loving it, then you can be at ease with your selection and start buying multiples.

As for the Bumblebee...yes it is a legendary stick. But obviously tougher to find. One of the players at my club still usues his now and then but bought a Youtek OS and had the specs matched. He now uses the Youtek most of the time..just another option.
 
Power Player said:
I would disagree with onky. I play now and then with a 5.0 former college player who steps in and can hit to either corner from both wings if you put one in his strike zone. I had some issues with him due to a few things, but I got my strokes very deep and consistent with the Rad Pro. He knocked me around the court when I had the APDC because the heavy topspin I needed to keep the ball in play would kick right where he wanted it. The Rad Pro lets me flatten out on my strokes a bit and not have to hit with so much topspin. That keeps the ball heavier and lower and drives him insane. So I notice a lot more court penetration with the Rad. The secret is (with any stick) to get your weight moving forward into the stroke on every shot. This comes back to my original post of finding the racquet for you and then sticking with it. The reason is because your timing has to be developed with the Radical Pro, but once you are hitting out in front consistently, I guarantee you will notice a large difference in your play.

I think what helped me lock down a racquet was focusing on swing weight. The APDC was a great stick, but I am a thin beam guy, and at the end of the day I could never feel confident for whatever reason with a wide beam. So figure that one out first. Then try and see what is the highest swingweight you can handle. Once you figure that out, you narrow down your options a bit. Then take your current racquet and lead it up to that swingweight. If you still are not happy, then you want to make the switch. This is what I did with the APDC and it lead me to the Rad Pro. It makes sense, since I like the 100 head shape..the power, but I needed more control and a higher SW. There simply is not another stick out there with the specs of the Rad pro, so if you end up loving it, then you can be at ease with your selection and start buying multiples.

As for the Bumblebee...yes it is a legendary stick. But obviously tougher to find. One of the players at my club still usues his now and then but bought a Youtek OS and had the specs matched. He now uses the Youtek most of the time..just another option.
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Well everyones strokes are different and believe me it is not a technical error on my part but for ME the rebel 95 hits a much more penetrating shot than the rad pro and this is especially true on serve. With the Rebel I average around 118-120 mph on serves and with the rad pro it is around 105-108mph and yes that is measured on the same speed gun at the same club etc etc.. I did not measure my serve with the bumblebee because I was just doing this for interests sake and I kno9w how to play with the bumblebee..

I agree that the ball of youtek Rad Pro & my strokes penetrates significantly more than with a pure drive or APD but again it is even more with the reb 95 or bumblebee. I want a racket that lets me hit right through the line of the ball and push other players back.. I also prefer a 18x20 stringbed.

Like I say it is a great racket just not for me.. It does have put away power but imo it is not aimed at my play style so much. so that why i left it.
 
Power player^^^very well said and excellent points. It's always so tricky to hit that elusive rally ball with enough weight but not so much spin that it kicks right into an opponent's strike zone.
 
Yep..Onky we hit different because I bet you are a little more flatter hitter then me, especially if you prefer 18x20. So that makes complete sense. You really can't go wrong with any of those sticks. I just hate following in love with old racquets because it is a pain to track them down. I could not find any more of my old Head Graphite Masters, or I would have just stuck with those, and probably never joined this forum..lol.
 
Power Player said:
I just got back into tennis less then a year ago after a long hiatus and had a lot of catching up to do since I was using old Head Graphite sticks as a junior. So yeah, I went through a phase of trying out sticks, and it sucks to be honest. It really does. So if you want to call me out for being rude, that is your interpretation. I am just being honest with the guy because he has started multiple racquet clubs..etc and I don't think you are making a fair comparison in any way. I also read his posts on the teaching area and it is obvious he wants to get his strokes down. Will not happen until you commit to a frame for a long time unfortunately.

Why are you going through a search?

And Ross, I would demo the Radical Pro and Mp. Thats a no brainer since you use a 2hbh. It does not feel plastic really.tough to describe..it changes the feel a little depending on how hard you make contact.
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I can understand your perspective and in general I would tend to agree with you. I was just saying that the tone of your post was condescending. I can understand going through an adjustment or looking phase and for some people it just happens more often. No offense meant towards you at all. I know Ross is going through a search but at least he is not like some players here that change racquets every 2 weeks.

As for me, yes, I am going going through a search of my own at the moment. I have been playing with the same stick and after several modifications I am still just not happy with it. I actually tried another stick completely on a whim and liked it a lot and that has led me to try a few others. I have my search narrowed down to three that I will be extensively playtesting before I make a decision.
 
Alpine, if you "had" to commit to one of the demo's listed above, what would it be and why
 
That's a nice stick, I couldn't whip it around quite the way I would like but I liked it on serve and 2hbh.
 
Never hit with it myself, but I've always been interested in this racquet and it seems deserve a serious look. A flexible old school racquet with ample ploughthrough, manageable weight/sw, and hits a heavy ball.

From TW:

Offering substantial mass behind every shot, this racquet offers some nice plough through for deep, powerful hitting and excellent stability.....A CAP like grommet system adds some useful mass to the hoop of the racquet which translates into some useful power on serves and groundstrokes. At net the racquet feels very solid and stable even when up against heavily struck passing attempts. There's ample feel for touch volleys and short angles. Our TW playtesters liked the grip from the stringbed especially on slice serves and groundstrokes. A soft, comfortable feel greets the player at impact making the racquet one of the more arm-friendly player's racquets on the market. All in all a very impressive stick that is well worth a demo for the advanced level player.
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Head Size:
98 sq. in. / 632 sq. cm.
Length: 27 inches / 69 cm
Strung Weight: 11.9oz / 337g
Balance: 4 pts HL
Swingweight: 333
Stiffness: 62
Beam Width: 20mm Straight Beam
Composition: Delta Core/DNX/Fiberglass
Power Level: Low
Swing Speed: Fast
Grip Type: Cushtac with Sensor Tour handle
String Pattern:
18 Mains / 20 Crosses
Mains skip: 8T,10T,8H,10H
Two Pieces
No Shared Holes
String Tension: 50-60

Boris Becker Delta Core Legend
 
Someone probably already suggested it, but I wonder if you would like a YT Rad MP weighted close to your Rad Tour? I only demoed the YT Rad MP and I liked it, except for the lower weight.

....or even though it's not out yet, you could wait (like me) to try out the YouTek Prestige MP. Kal-El just posted a nice, short review on it and it looks really promising. Nice soft feel at net but the ability to hit some big groundies and monster serves.
 
Everyone,

I think this is kind of good news, sort of ...

Recent hits with my Rad Tour Twin Tube XL at least appears to demonstrate I'm kind of on the right path with this mission or idea of exploring a low power, flexy, high SW, big hitting racquet (somewhat in the manner of Novak.) Because this frame (369 SW, softish and flexy, 12.3 static weight) frame just pounds out such a booming, felt-ripping, in your face, heavy ball!... THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M AFTER!... it just needs to be in a bit more of a user-friendly package, I suspect (ie, slightly less cumbersome.)


To reply to recent posts though...

Alpine, PED,

The i. Prestige is a frame I know fairly well and like a lot. I could have another look at it though it might not be quite what I'm after. That said, with the exception of the Reb, there's a strong argument I should just stick to Head frames as I'm possibly more a devotee of their rackets than any other (just love that solidity, quality build, lush feel, b-line performance of frames like the PT 280/630, i. P., Rad Tours, etc.)

No, I'm not hugely familiar with the AG/4D/Tour/whatever lines of Dunlop, AG100 aside. Maybe I should look into the AG200 (not sure tbh)? As an experiment however, the 300 appeals to me ('neverstopplaying' from the boards did a big lead job etc on one and the end result sounds similarish to the type of frame I'm after.)


Shangri,

TBH I just feel I'm finally coming to the end of my experimenting with Volkl/BB frames, etc. I have a few. Have checked out a few others. Despite so many attractive attributes, I just never seem to quite get there, so to speak, with these frames... That said, I've heard/read very good reports on the Delta Core Legend.


steve,

I think that's a very, very good idea. Actually I'm considering this seriously as I reckon something like a MG MP, Rad MP, or a Prestige MP, with lots of modding, could make for just the thing... quite which model I don't know (which ever tends to feel the softest and is the least stiff?)... solid idea to me though.


Murray,

Cheers for that ^... actually that's at least the 2nd shout for rdis mid (which... hmm... yes, there is a little interest on my behalf... but I don't know about mids anymore though tbh... )


R.
 
You need a babysitter for all the demoing you're doing, and you're not ready to change your strokes for an ugly paintjob, right? Oh wait, I'm talking about myself. :( lol, you should definitely figure things out and keep us updated.
 
Ross K,

I briefly hit with the EXO 95 and didn’t particularly like it. If felt like hitting with a board but admittedly, it was 3 or 4 months ago and I didn’t give it much of a fighting chance. Based on your criteria, the closest you are going to get to everything is the youtek radical pro IMHO.

Alpine,

I have heard very good things about the older prestiges, especially the i.prestige MP. I used the liquid metal prestige a few years and really liked it before going to a more powerful racquet (and about to go back the softy flexible frames). How does it compare the prestige, liquidmetal/flexpoint/microgel as I have hit with them all?

Good tennis all

TM
 
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Ross K,

I briefly hit with the EXO 95 and didn’t particularly like it. If felt like hitting with a board but admittedly, it was 3 or 4 months ago and I didn’t give it much of a fighting chance. Based on your criteria, the closest you are going to get to everything is the youtek radical pro IMHO.

Alpine,

I have heard very good things about the older prestiges, especially the i.prestige MP. I used the liquid metal prestige a few years and really liked it before going to a more powerful racquet (and about to go back the softy flexible frames). How does it compare the prestige, liquidmetal/flexpoint/microgel as I have hit with them all?

Good tennis all

TM
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The input that I have won't matter though, because I already jollitized myself in another thread. Sorry, but you'll have to find your own way home. Take a hike. :oops:
 
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Everyone,

Had a hit with the Reb yesterday that has virtually sealed its fate with me... "Too erratic"!... add to that a week of tests with old faves and frames I was in 2 minds about...
C10 Pro, PT630, i. Prest MP, PB 10 mid, AG100 mid... "No! Not right"!... so I actually feel some progress has been made.


I intend following excellent advice (thanks Fed, Klem and Ray) and buying and then big time beefing up an AG300/4D 300 and/or MG Rad MP.


This still stands for me (though tomorrow I'll test this frame more fully):
Recent hits with my Rad Tour Twin Tube XL at least appears to demonstrate I'm kind of on the right path with this mission or idea of exploring a low power, flexy, high SW, big hitting racquet (somewhat in the manner of Novak.) Because this frame (369 SW, softish and flexy, 12.3 static weight) frame just pounds out such a booming, felt-ripping, in your face, heavy ball!... THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M AFTER!... it just needs to be in a bit more of a user-friendly package, I suspect (ie, slightly less cumbersome.)
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Frames I might want to still check out (subject to availability):

Rad Tour Twin Tube (STANDARD length)

Rad Trysis 260 (doubt I'll find 1 tbh)

RD7 (suddenly occurred to me this one)

AG200 (or whatever the best Dunlop b-liner frames that fit my specs - not too sure of this line)

MG Rad Pro/Youtek Rad Pro (both though sell for stupidly high amount in the UK )

Unknown (what mystery lowish power, big SW, not bloody stiff, lush and buttery frames still lurk awaiting my discovery eh?!) :shock: :smile:


R.


BTW Fed, I tried a few years ago to get a LM Rad Tour (heavy one) but it never transpired. It has always sounded appealing to me tbh.
 
Alpine,

Yes I am aware of your Jollyization and exactly the response I would expect of a wannabe who knows he has nothing useful to contribute. I considered not asking but thought you might be an adult and put the past in the past. Just because you made some very poor inferences in the past, doesn't necessarily mean you will always have nothing of value to say. My mistake for giving you the benefit of the doubt. Your input is invaluable to TW.

Back on ignore with your buddies mtommer and suresh, where you belong.

TM
 
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Right, you're the adult here because you can repost the same harassing/insulting post TWICE when a moderator deleted your original insults. You weren't even in the debate, yet you stepped in to write nearly 6 paragraphs to get under my skin. Time well spent trying to randomly attack a TTW member, right? I'm glad it got zapped the second time around when you cut and pasted it back up. Guess you never learn, and this post of yours shows how much of an "adult" you are.

After all that work you put into insulting me (twice,) you happen to want my advice in this thread, but you're pulling the "my mistake, benefit of the doubt" and "the past is the past" cards? Take a step back and see how ridiculous you sound. I'm going back to my corner until my time-out is over. But, thanks, it's nice to know you can't handle reading a reply. I didn't know I was Ignore-List worthy to someone I've never talked to before.
 
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So uh?... Ok. Anyway.

Ross?

Any updates that you would like to share with your public?

In the end, I believe that this 'mission almost-impossible' that you have pioneered will help more than just yourself.
 
If your idea of a good racket is the PT630, you might want to give the ProKennex Redondo midplus a try. It's not exactly the same, but very close in all other aspects...
 
Yonex RDX MP 500. If it weren't for the grip shape I would have switched instead of going for the LM Rad MP. Makes a nice thunderous sound too when smaking the ball.
 
Alpine,

I tried to show you how the parallels of the embellishments you made were similar to those made by Jolly because others tried to explain it to you and you just didn’t get it. I am sorry the truth and simple logic is offensive to you but that is often the case when people just don’t understand what they are talking about. I call a spade a spade but it is hardly surprising that you can’t handle the truth or understand simple logic. Maybe you could get every post you don’t like, agree with or understand, to be removed to protect your fragile and very large ego? After 3800 posts, you would think you might have learned something. Intelligence and basic decency were not among them.

Thank you for setting such a great example of how adults act. When children don’t get their own way, they cry to their teachers. Sound familiar? Enough said as you can’t reason with unreasonable people. I have wasted enough time talking to someone who can’t see the forest because of the trees. Can’t talk any more now as I am going to go play with some college tennis players (oh, who don’t play college tennis). LOL

Sorry Ross K. Back on topic. Any updates?

TM
 
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