What happened to Federer NEO backhand of 2017?

Jackuar

Hall of Fame
Same question in my mind... The information back then was that it came by merely approaching the shot a tad earlier and taking it just about on the rise. I'm guessing he's no longer able to do it due to further deterioration in his court coverage and speed. But I'd like to know more about it from people who know the technicalities.
 

Raining hopes

Hall of Fame
Before anyone starts crediting Novak for this, He played only twice with Federer and that too in 2018 after 2017. And in Paris 3rd set the BH was almost reaching same levels. Yes Novak is good enough to handle his own against it, but this idea that the BH being nowhere to Be found has something to do with the field is laughable.


As is the idea that the shot only showed up against Nadal.

Fraud started hitting his BH from Hopman cup in 2017 itself and it was there prominently in his matches against Berdych, Nishikori, Stan in AO apart from Rafa.

He had it in IW and to somewhat lesser extent in Miami and WB.
 

Dilexson

Hall of Fame
Nah, he pretty much lost it after IW 2017. He hit a purple patch for a short while, that's all.
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
Last time neo BH showed up was against Nadal, Shanghai 2017 final..
Then it's invisible.
I think fed needs to hit freely and build more muscular power to put power into that shot..
Are you absolutely sure there is still power left in that skinny 37 years old body? i am not so sure...LOL You people talk, like he is some kind of next gen teenager, who has a long at least 10 years career with ups and dows in front of him! Give grandpa a break for a change will ya? LOL
 
It is what happens when age and at the same time wear and tear from playing constantly work together. Once he had his long break he had a narrow window before injuries and niggles started affecting again his ability to swing consistently with power from that wing. It puts into perspective the constant presence he has been without any long breaks, in comparison with his main competitors. That is why his mind-boggling longevity not only as years , but also as level, is one of the major perks of his legacy.

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Are you absolutely sure there is still power left in that skinny 37 years old body? i am not so sure...LOL You people talk, like he is some kind of next gen teenager, who has a long at least 10 years career with ups and dows in front of him! Give grandpa a break for a change will ya? LOL
The problem lies 80% in his mind and not body..
Physically he's still almost there, and needs just a little more pushes....
And this 37 year old grandpa is probably the only one who could've given some competition to nole in final, given he didn't choke 2nd set against greek BS
..

above all, you're just a troll and fed hater
 

RS

Talk Tennis Guru
He’s not the same player since Toronto/2017
I would say since the Coric match at IW. He recovered from back issues and won Shanghai,Basel,AO and Rotterdam in the following months. Only WTF was a struggle post USO.
 
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Deleted member 764118

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Flash in the pan. I’m just glad we got it at all.
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
Neo backhand will work when someone feeds Fed lot of short balls to his bH ..
Rafa threw lot of short balls to Fed , expecting BH to break and make errors but instead he hit winners and hence Rafa lost those matches..

Djoker doesn't throw short balls ,he returns or places it deep at the toes to the BH side .
There is no way ,to hit neo BH or any BH winners from that position ,unless your name is Stanislas .
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
Posting gifs all day for an elderly man like yourself are really cool! My dad never posted a gif in his life.
I owe that to my grandchildren, who require from me to know everything there is to know about this new age business.

SABR is already in the history of the sport, and Federer’s BH too became legendary after he pwned Nadal so hard with it, once he got the raquet for that.

You should admire him.

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TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru
I owe that to my grandchildren, who require from me to know everything there is to know about this new age business.

SABR is already in the history of the sport, and Federer’s BH too became legendary after he pwned Nadal so hard with it, once he got the raquet for that.

You should admire him.

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Im glad my dad is not posting gifs. He is taking his grandkids skiing and fishing things like that... active stuff! Not going online w them. Its enough internet and stuff for the kids already.
SABR was nasty and Ill not admire that! Of course I admire the backhand 2 years ago, its just that the name NEO sounds silly.
 
Im glad my dad is not posting gifs. He is taking his grandkids skiing and fishing things like that... active stuff! Not going online w them. Its enough internet and stuff for the kids already.
SABR was nasty and Ill not admire that! Of course I admire the backhand 2 years ago, its just that the name NEO sounds silly.
Sounds boring.

Skiing destroys your knees, and fishing is for old farts like me, not for children.

He should try cycling, tennis, bouldering and climbing, canoeing, rowing, and a couple of others, not this Scandinavian nonsense.

You could thank me later, by acknowledging that you hate SABR just because Rafito cannot do it.

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ibbi

G.O.A.T.
When you're confident and feeling good you can do anything. When you are neither of those things you generally sort of revert to type, and suffer for all the reasons you got away from said type.
 

Raining hopes

Hall of Fame
Not impossible, I guess.
Please Sir give me explaination for each tournament where Fraud played after WB 2017 and had much lesser average BH speed and winners and no. Of BH topspin to slice hit than the period before. Also we can single out in which tournament he was supposed to face Djokovic. Even then we will be left with decent amount of tourneys.


I can prove this with stats.




You can't.


I am really angry in personal life presently. And pathetic poster and trolls here are making this worse .
 
Please Sir give me explaination for each tournament where Fraud played after WB 2017 and had much lesser average BH speed and winners and no. Of BH topspin to slice hit than the period before. Also we can single out in which tournament he was supposed to face Djokovic. Even then we will be left with decent amount of tourneys.


I can prove this with stats.




You can't.


I am really angry in personal life presently. And pathetic poster and trolls here are making this worse .
Take it easy
 

Krish0608

Legend
Yeah right, tell that to Nadal who mysteriously could not exploit Fed's BH in 2017 and lost 7 sets on a trot. Here was Nadal going to Federer's backhand with all that spin, expecting a weak and short ball that he can put away. And what did he get in return? Bullets down the line and cross court that left Rafa very confused. Yeah, there was no Neo backhand. Lol.
 
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