What happened to German tennis? A devolution with no end. ATP thread.

No, your struggle with facts and other people's different - DIVERSE - views placed us off topic.

Because why discuss st when you can pick "fights"... right?
No you made your own thread off topic by stating zev isn’t German. You stated that in your original post. Even if he was born there and played all his tennis there. I can’t help that. And again Germany had a good period. So did Switzerland. So did Serbia. So did usa. So did Sweden. So did Australia. So did France. So did Great Britain and on an on and on
 
Is the Zverev thing a joke? People keep going on about it, but I don't get it. Why does nobody play this game with Raonic, Shapovalov, Kokkinakis, etc?
I agree. But apparently underrated slam could play this game with any player who has an ethnic game or who’s parents immigrated
 
Not sure about it as I only know how about my own town how it looked like 20 years ago. The three indoor centers I used to play as a kid or teenager got all replaced by other indoor sports or shut down entirely. The club I used to play in my early twenties also has far fewer memberships than 10-15 years ago. All in all tennis is far less popular than during Becker’s time, even though with Zverev it might have increased a little again.
This seems likely.

Nowitzki definitely shifted the interest, which then lead to a closing down of tennis courts, more basketball courts... Obviously, other factors too.

I just find it unusual how Germany suddenly became a tennis monster then gradually went back to where it was, basically. This happens in small countries all the time, but they are small countries hence logically they can't be as consistent in something as the biggest ones. Though Sweden showed it can. For a while at least.
 
No you made your own thread off topic by stating zev isn’t German. You stated that in your original post. Even if he was born there and played all his tennis there. I can’t help that. And again Germany had a good period. So did Switzerland. So did Serbia. So did usa. So did Sweden. So did Australia. So did France. So did Great Britain and on an on and on
Well, finally you're somewhat on-topic, if a bit bleedin' obvious about it...

Yeah, we know shifts in popularity and success happen almost everywhere. We wanna know why.

But thanks for telling us that USA isn't what it used to be. That came as a shock, and my wife is laughing...
 
Well, finally you're somewhat on-topic, if a bit bleedin' obvious about it...

Yeah, we know shifts in popularity and success happen almost everywhere. We wanna know why.

But thanks for telling us that USA isn't what it used to be. That came as a shock, and my wife is laughing...
Apparently you have something against the USA. That’s fine. I don’t care. Because we aren’t as good at tennis as we used to be. Makes sense. But we only have like 10 other sports where people make way more money than playing tennis. Which wasn’t the case back in the 80s and 90s. A back up outfielder on a crappy baseball team makes more than 90 percent of the atp tour.
 
Is the Zverev thing a joke? People keep going on about it, but I don't get it. Why does nobody play this game with Raonic, Shapovalov, Kokkinakis, etc?
Djokovic would have been playing for England had he accepted the citizenship offer.
 
Apparently you have something against the USA. That’s fine. I don’t care. Because we aren’t as good at tennis as we used to be. Makes sense. But we only have like 10 other sports where people make way more money than playing tennis. Which wasn’t the case back in the 80s and 90s. A back up outfielder on a crappy baseball team makes more than 90 percent of the atp tour.
Accusations, again?

I have nothing against the US, calm down. In fact, I am the one often defending them in this here anti-western Balkan country...

I merely agreed that Americans suck at tennis since the golden days. But you had to read into it, st silly.

How bad your instincts are about people. Hopefully more luck with how you appraise tennis topics, ey?
 
Accusations, again?

I have nothing against the US, calm down. In fact, I am the one often defending them in this here anti-western Balkan country...

How bad your instincts are about people. Hopefully more luck with how you appraise tennis topics, ey?
You have called the USA a failing power twice. During this thread. And you extrapolate that to our tennis players lol. You claim zev isn’t German. Apparently only people with german names can be german. You are hilarious. Where are you from buddy?
 
You have called the USA a failing power twice. During this thread. And you extrapolate that to our tennis players lol. You claim zev isn’t German. Apparently only people with german names can be german. You are hilarious. Where are you from buddy?
"Buddy".

Term of endearment - or sarcastic hostility - used in the United States of America predominantly.

Well, am I wrong that America is a failing tennis power?

And try spelling German with a capital G, otherwise the wife may laugh yet again, but this time not at the thread or its maker...

You shouldn't have a non-native English-speaking Serb instruct you on spelling, punctuation and the like...
 
"Buddy".

Term of endearment - or sarcastic hostility - used in the United States of America predominantly.

And try spelling German with a capital G, otherwise the wife may laugh yet again, but this time not at the thread or its maker...
Ahh the condescending attitude is perfect. Hey is anisimova American or Russian? I want to hear this one
 
Ahh the condescending attitude is perfect. Hey is anisimova American or Russian? I want to hear this one
You don't know?

But why ask me of all people? You claim I don't understand these things at all... You being the expert on these things, you should be able to answer it yourself.

I'm surprised, and shocked, frankly.

Still, I will tell you this much...

Her name starts with A, a capital letter...
 
The second generation rule applies. Africans have been in Spain since the Middle Ages.
Ahh the second generation rule. How about the fact someone is born somewhere trains their entire life there is a German citizen plays under the German flag calls himself german? What rule is that?
 
Ahh the second generation rule. How about the fact someone is born somewhere trains their entire life there is a German citizen plays under the German flag calls himself german? What rule is that?
You seem to know exactly where and how much Zverev trained...

You a big Zverev fan?
 
Why don't you like him though? He is your wife's compatriot and a true ATG.
Wtf are you talking about? Why would I like or dislike someone based on if he is German or not. He’s a jerkoff or comes across as one. I don’t like many American tennis players to. I don’t base my like or dislike around someones nationality
 
All the world has African blood because that is where the human race originated.
Apparently, there was another cradle of the human race in China, around 1.5 million years ago, unrelated to the African one. So not all the world, but a large part of it :)
 
Apparently, there was another cradle of the human race in China, around 1.5 million years ago, unrelated to the African one. So not all the world, but a large part of it :)

Unproven. The Chinese often like to push that idea but most anthropologists shoot it down in flames, even Chinese ones. DNA studies show that all human lines everywhere can ultimately be traced back to a migration out of Africa. :cool:
 
Wtf are you talking about? Why would I like or dislike someone based on if he is German or not. He’s a jerkoff or comes across as one. I don’t like many American tennis players to. I don’t base my like or dislike around someones nationality
I don't either.

Most Serbs support Djokovic based on his nationality. Many Germans did the same for Becker and even Stich. And so on.

It's a very common thing. It's not evil or good. Just a thing people do.
 
Becker winning 1985 Wimby was like an earthquake in tennis, and like a religious event in Germany. It was really huge.
It was huge news in America and Britain as well. Consider Becker has been on the cover of Sports Illustrated (which used to be the biggest sports magazine in the US) twice, which is the same number of covers Federer has. That puts it into perspective.

1985, after Wimbledon:

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