What happened to monfilis

i see him on facetok doing silly dance on expensive boat with wife. maybe he do injury jumping around like crazy to celebrate big payday and forget he is 38?!

remember he is old and dercrepits. old men should not do silly dances.
 
Guru Apu said:
i see him on facetok doing silly dance on expensive boat with wife. maybe he do injury jumping around like crazy to celebrate big payday and forget he is 38?!

remember he is old and dercrepits. old men should not do silly dances.
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That video was like 5 years old btw. Social media will destroy us all
 
Mr.Lob said:
Never know with Monpossum. He's always bending over at the waist after a rally, breathing hard like he might have a heart attack or something. He had his moment in the sun in that last match.
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Beat him at first go and don't over celebrate until it's done fully.
 
Dominic & Andrey said:
Completely toasted physically.
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He had a long 5 5 set 1st Rd, long 4 sets in 3rd Rd sun.
These walkovers will play into the dismantling of BO5 in slams; only in the first 3 rds or last 3 rds. It's inevitable.
no other men's pro sport makes the men play longer than the women.
 
It's really simple. Age happened, and father time is undefeated. An older player might be able to string together a title at a BO3 or even a nice run in a BO5, but for a slam title, recovery is going to be a problem at some point.
 
Alcawrath said:
It's really simple. Age happened, and father time is undefeated. An older player might be able to string together a title at a BO3 or even a nice run in a BO5, but for a slam title, recovery is going to be a problem at some point.
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Age nothing.

This guy has retired from 27 matches


Is this all time infamous record? He would retire just the same at 20 or 25 or 30 or 35.
 
vokazu said:
Should've ordered a glass of red wine instead of a can of Coca Cola.
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i think poster meant not "courageous", "gallant", "adventurous" of Monfils, or something in that vein.

Some of y'all might needs brushing up on your vocabulary, like words can have multiple meanings, ya know?
 
Alcawrath said:
I know that 27 > 13. But what's the threshold for retirements that makes a player not serious? Would Novak be less serious if he had 14? 15? Or is 27 the number?
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Let's look at the number of matches the goat has played.
1353


Monfils 911.


Goat is also having second highest bo5 in history. But even removing that.

To match gurufils record, the goat would need to retire from 40 matches, and not just 27.


40 >>> 13.


Plus most of Djokovic retirement came before he got fit. Monfils never has been a fit player.
 
No one is saying he matches Djokovic in almost anything. I'm just wondering what your standard is for retirements since you're criticizing monfils for it and also how you've determined it's "the standard" for whether or not we can take a player seriously. Is it just arbitrarily based on Djokovic being unimpeachable in general?
 
Alcawrath said:
No one is saying he matches Djokovic in almost anything. I'm just wondering what your standard is for retirements since you're criticizing monfils for it and also how you've determined it's "the standard" for whether or not we can take a player seriously. Is it just arbitrarily based on Djokovic being unimpeachable in general?
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Simply always being injured is my criticism of monfils.
 
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Alcawrath said:
This is my point, it's a very very short list because old age cannot be overcome
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This is obviously true at a certain point, although the point at which it is true is much later in life than it used to be (in tennis, and in other sports, and in non-sporting life). So, I think it's more true to say "Father Time always gets his person in the end" than "Father Time is undefeated." To my mind, many players have defeated Father Time, although not forever.
 
helterskelter said:
This is obviously true at a certain point, although the point at which it is true is much later in life than it used to be (in tennis, and in other sports, and in non-sporting life). So, I think it's more true to say "Father Time always gets his person in the end" than "Father Time is undefeated." To my mind, many players have defeated Father Time, although not forever.
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True, but I think 35-38 is the tipping point. There are only a few that have won ATP titles at 38, and zero that have won a slam at that age. Seems to be pretty close to a current threshold for competitive ability
 
Alcawrath said:
True, but I think 35-38 is the tipping point. There are only a few that have won ATP titles at 38, and zero that have won a slam at that age. Seems to be pretty close to a current threshold for competitive ability
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Yes, I agree. Monfils is doing very well for his age, and while this was something of an opportunity to do even better, it's not really surprising that he couldn't last or that he couldn't beat Shelton. A shame (to my mind), but not much of a surprise.

Federer had a slam title within his grasp the month before he turned 38, so it might be possible for Djokovic, but not for someone like Monfils, who even at his best never made a slam final.
 
Alcawrath said:
True, but I think 35-38 is the tipping point. There are only a few that have won ATP titles at 38, and zero that have won a slam at that age. Seems to be pretty close to a current threshold for competitive ability
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True, though Rosewall did reach two slam finals at 39.8 and 39.10
 
SpinToWin said:
Unromantic lmao is he supposed to go on a date with the tennis ball or what?

He simply couldn’t compete any longer with his body as it was. It’s not smart to continue playing when the match is a foregone conclusion and you start risking injury.
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Sounds like they’re using the term “romantic” in its historical sense - of grandure, mysterious, dramatic, idealistic, not practical or sensible
 
thrust said:
Not many, Rosewall and Gonzalez are the only two I can think of. Rosewall won 6 titles after turning 40, Pancho won some too.
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This is before my time, so I'm genuinely asking but wasn't Rosewall playing in the S&V era which would have allowed for much shorter points she less baseline grinding?
 
Alcawrath said:
This is before my time, so I'm genuinely asking but wasn't Rosewall playing in the S&V era which would have allowed for much shorter points she less baseline grinding?
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True, but Ken had a weak serve so didn't Serve and Volley as much as the other big servers. Still though he was very good at the net so did volley more than today's players after he worked his way up to the net.
 
helterskelter said:
Yes, I agree. Monfils is doing very well for his age, and while this was something of an opportunity to do even better, it's not really surprising that he couldn't last or that he couldn't beat Shelton. A shame (to my mind), but not much of a surprise.

Federer had a slam title within his grasp the month before he turned 38, so it might be possible for Djokovic, but not for someone like Monfils, who even at his best never made a slam final.
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Not a surprise? Shelton is not better than Fritz and never will be ranked in top 5. I'd take Fritz's serve. Not a chance for BS, just the normal American sports media hype like there's not 10-15 players better in the world. Then they become surprised when he loses. His best shot is always the USO just like Tiafoe or Fritz.
 
Mr.Lob said:
Never know with Monpossum. He's always bending over at the waist after a rally, breathing hard like he might have a heart attack or something. He had his moment in the sun in that last match.
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Yeah but in that case it was legit. Not sure why you refer to "Monpossum" here.
 
a10best said:
Not a surprise? Shelton is not better than Fritz and never will be ranked in top 5. I'd take Fritz's serve. Not a chance for BS, just the normal American sports media hype like there's not 10-15 players better in the world. Then they become surprised when he loses. His best shot is always the USO just like Tiafoe or Fritz.
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Shelton isn't better than Fritz, true, but the #40 beating the #4 and then losing to the #22 is something that has happened many times before.
 
Federev said:
Sounds like they’re using the term “romantic” in its historical sense - of grandure, mysterious, dramatic, idealistic, not practical or sensible
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Not sure that makes that any better. Are we expecting a code of honour from tennis players? What are we, medieval knights jousting?
 
Guru Apu said:
i see him on facetok doing silly dance on expensive boat with wife. maybe he do injury jumping around like crazy to celebrate big payday and forget he is 38?!

remember he is old and dercrepits. old men should not do silly dances.
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Let the old guy dance and enjoy himself.
 
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