What happened to my buttery Kirschbaum synthetic gut?

For the past 10 years I have been using a hybrid set up of MSV Focus Hex in the mains and kirschbaum syn. gut in the crosses. Prior to settling on this set up I've used a handful of synthetic guts but the kirschbaum syn. gut was noticeably softer and gave me great feel and dwell time for the ball. I think I paid $35 for a whole 660' reel of it too, what a steal!!!

I finally used up my last reel of it and when I went to buy more I couldn't find it anywhere, it appears that they stopped making it or something? Wondering what syn. gut you guys would recommend for a cross in a hybrid that would play similar to my beloved kirschbaum syn. gut. I have tried multis before but I rip through them in about an hour of hitting, the synthetic guy gives me substantial durability so I would like to stick with a syn. gut (Unless you know of a really cheap Multi I can get for $40 a reel LOL).

Appreciate any and all feedback. Thanks!
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
For the past 10 years I have been using a hybrid set up of MSV Focus Hex in the mains and kirschbaum syn. gut in the crosses. Prior to settling on this set up I've used a handful of synthetic guts but the kirschbaum syn. gut was noticeably softer and gave me great feel and dwell time for the ball. I think I paid $35 for a whole 660' reel of it too, what a steal!!!

I finally used up my last reel of it and when I went to buy more I couldn't find it anywhere, it appears that they stopped making it or something? Wondering what syn. gut you guys would recommend for a cross in a hybrid that would play similar to my beloved kirschbaum syn. gut. I have tried multis before but I rip through them in about an hour of hitting, the synthetic guy gives me substantial durability so I would like to stick with a syn. gut (Unless you know of a really cheap Multi I can get for $40 a reel LOL).

Appreciate any and all feedback. Thanks!
Check E Bay to find some old reels, other than that I’d check out Gosen OGSM if you want to move away or don’t want to try E Bay. I’ve never used the kirschbaum synthetic gut but I liked the Gosen.
 

1HBHfanatic

Legend
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-oops, please ignore, i realized i was recalling the tecnifibre syngut, not what the OP wanted!

-i havent found a substitute for that string
-very unique, buttery, soft feel
-but i do remember the outer coating was not too durable; it would fuzz up pretty quick
-i find that wilson syngut has a almost buttery feel! , comparable,, maybe. price would be different
-gosen is a touch crisper and a bit thinner IMO, price also different
-babolat syngut also has a nice outer coating that would be comperable, but price an issue
-forten.SWEET is/has nice soft feel, but not sure its comperable in price
-prince is a bit softer/buttery than gamma syngut, but neither is as soft as tecnifibre.syngut
 
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DrumWizOHBD

Semi-Pro
Pro Supex Synthetic Gut Titan ;-) Not sure where to purchase these days though. It's a little more muted than the Kirschbaum, but has that nice pocketing, works great a slippery cross string in a hybrid setup, and it's cheap! I 2nd that Forten Sweet is close to the Kirschbaum, but it's more "sticky", outer coating wears off fast, causing mains to stick out of place.
 

Happi

Professional
You could check out Pros Pro synt gut. 18 Euro for a reel. Perhaps you would like the string.
 

TagUrIt

Hall of Fame
@TagUrIt What do you think? I think you said you've tried Pro's pro syn gut
I hate to talk bad about a product, because everyone has their own experience. However if I’m being completely forthcoming, I gave Pro’s Pro a try and absolutely hated the string. It was probably one of the worst strings I’ve ever strung my racquet with. Even at 57lbs it was mushy, dead, and had no feel. I didn’t even make it through a whole set, before I was switching back to one of my racquets strung with the Gamma Synthetic Gut. Which played tremendously better and already had about 8 hours of court time on it.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
For the past 10 years I have been using a hybrid set up of MSV Focus Hex in the mains and kirschbaum syn. gut in the crosses. Prior to settling on this set up I've used a handful of synthetic guts but the kirschbaum syn. gut was noticeably softer and gave me great feel and dwell time for the ball. I think I paid $35 for a whole 660' reel of it too, what a steal!!!

I finally used up my last reel of it and when I went to buy more I couldn't find it anywhere, it appears that they stopped making it or something? Wondering what syn. gut you guys would recommend for a cross in a hybrid that would play similar to my beloved kirschbaum syn. gut. I have tried multis before but I rip through them in about an hour of hitting, the synthetic guy gives me substantial durability so I would like to stick with a syn. gut (Unless you know of a really cheap Multi I can get for $40 a reel LOL).

Appreciate any and all feedback. Thanks!
K-baum SG is indeed my all-time favorite. I have several others right now including Prince Original, Volkl Classic, Forten Sweet, and Gosen OGSM, all of one gauge or another. Nothing quite matches that buttery wonderful ride that Kirschbaum could conjure up for me.

If you call the contact number listed on the site for Kirschbaum USA, you may or may not be able to do a direct order for reels through them. One of our pals here gave me the heads up back in the fall that they were taking orders, but I had a lot of other stuff on hand and didn't want to overdo it. I may take a chance on grabbing some reels as the weather warms up.

Before I came across K-baum a while ago, I was liking Tecnifibre SG for that similar extra-cozy feel. But after the drama of falling for K-baum and then seeing it disappear maybe two years later (should have written a country song), I tracked down some more Tecnifibre, but it seems like they changed the recipe. Much more firm than when I was using it a few years ago - and the black version of their SG now marks the balls. The dye used to stay put on the strings. Pet peeve, but I can't stand that. My string adventures might inspire an entire album 8-B

Prince Original and Volkl Classic are the two syn. guts that have been working for me lately in terms of their combo of moderate softness and crispy feel. Gosen OGSM is too firm for me in 16 ga., but the 17 ga. option can be pretty good for me tensioned at 52-53 lbs. in my Volkl C10's. I tensioned 17 ga. K-baum SG at about 57 lbs. when I used it in those frames. Forten Sweet is really soft - nearly as cushy as some multifibers - but not the same feel and performance I like with K-baum's SG.
 

loosegroove

Hall of Fame
What are you talking about?? What agenda are you and @esm even talking about, seriously was just trying to help the discussion since I've been looking into a new syn gut to switch to....

honestly frustrating because i was trying to be helpful.
Sarcasm isn't always so discernible on the interwebs.
 
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esm

Hall of Fame
What are you talking about?? What agenda are you and @esm even talking about, seriously was just trying to help the discussion since I've been looking into a new syn gut to switch to....

honestly frustrating because i was trying to be helpful.
How were you trying to help the discussion when you went by a “single use” review. You’d provide more discussion and be more helpful if you linked the whole PP thread, or posts more specific to the PP Syn gut discussions from that thread.
 

Lukhas

Legend
You could check out Pros Pro synt gut. 18 Euro for a reel. Perhaps you would like the string.
Speaking of Pro's Pro, there's Hot Stuff. Exists mainly in 1.33mm (15L) and even 1.40mm (15) should your grommets be wide enough.
 

Brando

New User
Great question. I was wondering the same since it seems regular Kirschbaum syn gut is still fairly widely available in 16 while the premium not. @fuzz nation , you're a big K-baum fan--- you have a take on if there's much of a difference?
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
Great question. I was wondering the same since it seems regular Kirschbaum syn gut is still fairly widely available in 16 while the premium not. @fuzz nation , you're a big K-baum fan--- you have a take on if there's much of a difference?
I tried the Premium after going through a couple reels of the standard version. It was also very nice. I didn't have any objections with the Premium, but I think it cost at least twice as much as the standard SG and any comparisons I tried didn't seem to set the two strings apart by any significant measure. So the standard still tops my list of favorites.
 

Brando

New User
Good to know, @fuzz nation . Am tempted to get a reel since one can be found under $40. First, tho, I have to play-test a Volkl Classic Syn Gut set I bought after research on TWU's String Performance Database. Am curious, how did YOU discover Volkl SG? I ask because its elasticity, in terms of tension change during impact and tension loss after, suggests it's remarkably resilient for a syn gut that's only 10% less stiff than POSG. So I thought many would have discovered it. But when I search worded the string here at TT, I only came up with you talking about it.

[And BTW, I compared VCSG with POSG, OGSM, and Sweet 16 on the D.B., and everything you say about those strings seems born out in the stats, too.]
 
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